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Well even if they aren't interested in Bradley, I would imagine that Theo and James value MB closer to his actual value than Hendry does.

But Hendry IS the one who signed him, so obviously Jim valued Milton. Of course he probably valued him wrong to begin with (left handed power hitter, run producer or whatever Lou told Hendry to get).

 

Damn it, it is time to eat some crow Jim and meet with Milton to smooth things out or just take whatever you can get. Spending endless hours trying to trade him seems really silly. In reality, the Ricketts family needs to step up and tell Hendry, you are keeping Bradley or screw it take whatever you can get since we would have to pay him anyway.

 

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Well even if they aren't interested in Bradley, I would imagine that Theo and James value MB closer to his actual value than Hendry does.

But Hendry IS the one who signed him, so obviously Jim valued Milton. Of course he probably valued him wrong to begin with (left handed power hitter, run producer or whatever Lou told Hendry to get).

 

Damn it, it is time to eat some crow Jim and meet with Milton to smooth things out or just take whatever you can get. Spending endless hours trying to trade him seems really silly. In reality, the Ricketts family needs to step up and tell Hendry, you are keeping Bradley or screw it take whatever you can get since we would have to pay him anyway.

 

long way to go till opening day

Yes it is, but do you really think there is going to be a market for Bradley? There more time spent floundering around with this the worse the Cubs organization looks. I would think the new owners would want to appear as if they had a plan when they bought the team other than cleaning up bathrooms, putting up wooden billboards and getting different food for the concession stand.

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Have a press conference with Hendry, Lou, Bradley, Jaramillo and Ricketts and make up some crap about putting everything behind us and moving forward and emphasize Jaramillio and him and Milton working together and Milton's year in Texas with Jaramillio and then tell everyone to STFU and move on. Bat Milton #2 and tell him he can refuse to talk to the press like he wanted to do in the first place when he got here.
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Have a press conference with Hendry, Lou, Bradley, Jaramillo and Ricketts and make up some crap about putting everything behind us and moving forward and emphasize Jaramillio and him and Milton working together and Milton's year in Texas with Jaramillio and then tell everyone to STFU and move on. Bat Milton #2 and tell him he can refuse to talk to the press like he wanted to do in the first place when he got here.

That would be fine with me. But Milton isn't without blame here. He needs to change his attitude a bit and at least have a professional relationship with teammates and other Cubs employees.

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Have a press conference with Hendry, Lou, Bradley, Jaramillo and Ricketts and make up some crap about putting everything behind us and moving forward and emphasize Jaramillio and him and Milton working together and Milton's year in Texas with Jaramillio and then tell everyone to STFU and move on. Bat Milton #2 and tell him he can refuse to talk to the press like he wanted to do in the first place when he got here.

 

That ship has sailed. The Cubs obviously feel they can no longer have Bradley on their team. Whether that's a smart decision is debatable, but that's the decison they have made.

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Well even if they aren't interested in Bradley, I would imagine that Theo and James value MB closer to his actual value than Hendry does.

But Hendry IS the one who signed him, so obviously Jim valued Milton. Of course he probably valued him wrong to begin with (left handed power hitter, run producer or whatever Lou told Hendry to get).

 

Damn it, it is time to eat some crow Jim and meet with Milton to smooth things out or just take whatever you can get. Spending endless hours trying to trade him seems really silly. In reality, the Ricketts family needs to step up and tell Hendry, you are keeping Bradley or screw it take whatever you can get since we would have to pay him anyway.

 

long way to go till opening day

Yes it is, but do you really think there is going to be a market for Bradley? There more time spent floundering around with this the worse the Cubs organization looks. I would think the new owners would want to appear as if they had a plan when they bought the team other than cleaning up bathrooms, putting up wooden billboards and getting different food for the concession stand.

 

Yes there is a market for Bradley. The market isn't substantial, but you can rest assured that it is there. The organization isn't looking any worse than they were when the SHTF with Bradley last season. This team has issues. If you resign yourself to those issues, this whole ordeal is less bothersome. The Cubs may not be very good next season, but there will be baseball.

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Now with the Rays close to dealing for Rafael Soriano, it probably will make it even harder to send Bradley to TB. Good luck, Jim!
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Worst case scenario: Someone breaks a leg in March and Bradley gets shipped somewhere with severe outfield injuries.

 

Banking on that? Horrible, horrible idea.

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Yes there is a market for Bradley. The market isn't substantial, but you can rest assured that it is there. The organization isn't looking any worse than they were when the SHTF with Bradley last season. This team has issues. If you resign yourself to those issues, this whole ordeal is less bothersome. The Cubs may not be very good next season, but there will be baseball.

 

No doubt this team has issues, but if the big 3 (Lee, Ramirez and Soriano) can perform anywhere near their expected levels, this team can compete in the NL Central especially if the Cardinals don't re-sign Holliday. I think Zambrano and Dempster will bounce back. I'm a little worried about Lilly and like everyone else I wonder if Wells can be a viable starter all year.

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Have a press conference with Hendry, Lou, Bradley, Jaramillo and Ricketts and make up some crap about putting everything behind us and moving forward and emphasize Jaramillio and him and Milton working together and Milton's year in Texas with Jaramillio and then tell everyone to STFU and move on. Bat Milton #2 and tell him he can refuse to talk to the press like he wanted to do in the first place when he got here.

 

That ship has sailed. The Cubs obviously feel they can no longer have Bradley on their team. Whether that's a smart decision is debatable, but that's the decison they have made.

 

What? This isn't some decision the Cubs are locked into. They don't have to trade him.

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No doubt this team has issues, but if the big 3 (Lee, Ramirez and Soriano) can perform anywhere near their expected levels,

 

Yeah we will be ok if Ramirez is mostly healthy, and Soriano or Soto hit better. Especially if we ever dump Bradley and are able to sign someone like Mike Cameron.

 

 

I think Zambrano and Dempster will bounce back. I'm a little worried about Lilly and like everyone else I wonder if Wells can be a viable starter all year.

 

Well I don't believe Zambrano pitched much different then he did in 07-08 last season. He just didn't get wins, due to the subpar offense at times and bullpen blowing games. Dempster struggled a little early in the season. But pitched very well the final 3 or 4 months of the season. Some believe his struggles had to do with his daughter being sick. Randy Wells is a bit tricky, I was waiting for him to lose it all season long and he never did. But it's not like Wells just pitched well the final two months of the season. He was tied for the third most starts on the team last year and was only one away from second on the team. Now there's no way he's going to be that good next year. But personally I like what I seen out of him and I do think he could be a solid 4 or 5. The fact that he probably had his best start of the season in his final start was also encouraging. Since I was starting to think the league was catching up to him.

 

I'm not as concerned about Lilly as some, but like always health is gonna be a big key. Lilly has been pretty durable over most of his career, so hopefully hes back on time. Other then that we just need Gorzelanny or Marshall to take that 5th spot and we will be fine. I have always liked Marshall as a 4 or 5 starter, and feel the Cubs have screwed around with him too much. But Gorzelanny is the guy I hope takes that spot. I think he could possibly become a Ted Lilly type pitcher for us. Hopefully working with Rothschild and even Lilly can help him figure it out.

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What? This isn't some decision the Cubs are locked into. They don't have to trade him.

 

There not locked into anything they just don't want Milton around anymore. Most of the players hate him, most of the coaches dislike him and the common Cubs fan hates him as well. Having Milton on the team is just bad PR and will make them look bad next season. Plus I think they really wanna improve the outfield defense, and that includes moving Fukudome back to RF and getting a new CF. But when it all comes down to it, Ricketts doesn't want Bradley on the team anymore. Otherwise I don't think it would be a must like it is.

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What? This isn't some decision the Cubs are locked into. They don't have to trade him.

 

There not locked into anything they just don't want Milton around anymore. Most of the players hate him, most of the coaches dislike him and the common Cubs fan hates him as well. Having Milton on the team is just bad PR and will make them look bad next season. Plus I think they really wanna improve the outfield defense, and that includes moving Fukudome back to RF and getting a new CF. But when it all comes down to it, Ricketts doesn't want Bradley on the team anymore. Otherwise I don't think it would be a must like it is.

 

Tough crap if people don't like him (especially the fans). If it's not realistic for him to get traded without the Cubs paying almost all of the contract then you have adults explaining to other adults the reality of the situation and they deal with it. Ricketts basically flat out said that he gave Hendry a set limit as to how much of Bradley's salary that they'll cover and it's pretty clear that that's not working out. If it's not economically feasable then you make it work.

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Most of the players hate him, most of the coaches dislike him and the common Cubs fan hates him as well.

 

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Since we at least have to think about the possibility of MB coming back, what would theoretically need to be done for the situation to be resolved to the point of him returning without pure chaos breaking out? Or is this so beyond repairable that at all costs this can not be repaired? Is there ANY chance this can be fixed?
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Since we at least have to think about the possibility of MB coming back, what would theoretically need to be done for the situation to be resolved to the point of him returning without pure chaos breaking out? Or is this so beyond repairable that at all costs this can not be repaired? Is there ANY chance this can be fixed?

Well if he comes back and tears it up in May (and the rest of the year) I think fans may forgive and forget.

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Yes there is a market for Bradley. The market isn't substantial, but you can rest assured that it is there. The organization isn't looking any worse than they were when the SHTF with Bradley last season. This team has issues. If you resign yourself to those issues, this whole ordeal is less bothersome. The Cubs may not be very good next season, but there will be baseball.

 

No doubt this team has issues, but if the big 3 (Lee, Ramirez and Soriano) can perform anywhere near their expected levels, this team can compete in the NL Central especially if the Cardinals don't re-sign Holliday. I think Zambrano and Dempster will bounce back. I'm a little worried about Lilly and like everyone else I wonder if Wells can be a viable starter all year.

 

Exactly. This team can compete in the NL Central. Problem is they become fresh and wet dog food when they play other teams that have, well, real teams. The Cubs are a few pieces away from such a team. Harden wasn't going to put us over the edge, which is one reason I am not pissed about that whole situation.

 

The sad part of this situation is we could probably take about 85 to 90 percent of the minds on this board, put them in Bradley's body and rock the baseball world. Hendry messed up last offseason. God damn did he mess up. Okay, I am going to go into a corner and bash my head bloody!

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Since we at least have to think about the possibility of MB coming back, what would theoretically need to be done for the situation to be resolved to the point of him returning without pure chaos breaking out? Or is this so beyond repairable that at all costs this can not be repaired? Is there ANY chance this can be fixed?

 

We could covertly spray paint him white before every game, give him the name Brad Mattel, and hope it works.

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Have a press conference with Hendry, Lou, Bradley, Jaramillo and Ricketts and make up some crap about putting everything behind us and moving forward and emphasize Jaramillio and him and Milton working together and Milton's year in Texas with Jaramillio and then tell everyone to STFU and move on. Bat Milton #2 and tell him he can refuse to talk to the press like he wanted to do in the first place when he got here.

 

I would be with you, but after I saw the way the players reacted with relief after Bradley was suspended at the end of the year, I am pretty certain it would be better for the team to play next year without Bradley.

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Ricketts basically flat out said that he gave Hendry a set limit as to how much of Bradley's salary that they'll cover and it's pretty clear that that's not working out. If it's not economically feasable then you make it work.

 

I think it's more likely that Ricketts would give in and pay more of Bradley salary then he wants to then have him back. But if Ricketts is forced to do that, it will put even more heat on Jim Hendry I think. Which basically means the rest of the moves Hendry makes this offseason better work out, and the Cubs better be back in the postseason next year or he will be gone. I doubt Ricketts is gonna be very happy with Crane Kenney or Hendry going to him and saying were gonna have to put in more money or it won't work. From everything I have heard though, there's no chance at all that Bradley is back. I doubt at this point they would change there minds after all the trade stuff this offseason. Especially when the plan is to move Fukudome back to RF and get a new CF. So what will end up happening is Ricketts will eat more money then he wanted to, and be pretty pissed off about it. I also bet it will be a while before Hendry goes to Ricketts and asks him to sign off on a big deal on another teams free agent.

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Have a press conference with Hendry, Lou, Bradley, Jaramillo and Ricketts and make up some crap about putting everything behind us and moving forward and emphasize Jaramillio and him and Milton working together and Milton's year in Texas with Jaramillio and then tell everyone to STFU and move on. Bat Milton #2 and tell him he can refuse to talk to the press like he wanted to do in the first place when he got here.

 

I would be with you, but after I saw the way the players reacted with relief after Bradley was suspended at the end of the year, I am pretty certain it would be better for the team to play next year without Bradley.

 

For me the trouble with that is how much of that was truly directed at Bradley and how much was that just frustration over the crappy season and looking for someone to blame? Or how much of that was just based on the feelings at that moment due to a specific incident? Bradley made plenty of stupid comments/decisions, but I think it's reasonable to think that effectively starting fresh with a new season that it would be a much different situation. I think it would basically come down to how the 2010 season kicks off. If the team is winning and/or Bradley isn't ice cold again I highly doubt anyone on the team is going to have a problem with him.

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Part of me wishes they won't be able to deal Bradley making Hendry look like a fool and hastening his demise under Ricketts.

 

Especially after Bradley has a great year and continually mentions how the Cubs didn't want him, didn't believe in him, and don't deserve the lucky break they caught. Which would all be true.

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Have a press conference with Hendry, Lou, Bradley, Jaramillo and Ricketts and make up some crap about putting everything behind us and moving forward and emphasize Jaramillio and him and Milton working together and Milton's year in Texas with Jaramillio and then tell everyone to STFU and move on. Bat Milton #2 and tell him he can refuse to talk to the press like he wanted to do in the first place when he got here.

 

I would be with you, but after I saw the way the players reacted with relief after Bradley was suspended at the end of the year, I am pretty certain it would be better for the team to play next year without Bradley.

 

For me the trouble with that is how much of that was truly directed at Bradley and how much was that just frustration over the crappy season and looking for someone to blame? Or how much of that was just based on the feelings at that moment due to a specific incident? Bradley made plenty of stupid comments/decisions, but I think it's reasonable to think that effectively starting fresh with a new season that it would be a much different situation. I think it would basically come down to how the 2010 season kicks off. If the team is winning and/or Bradley isn't ice cold again I highly doubt anyone on the team is going to have a problem with him.

 

If the team was winning, or Bradley started off the season well, it would mask a lot. But overall I see Bradley as a cancer to this Cubs team. The core of the team seems to strongly dislike Bradley, and while it won't directly affect their play, it will have an effect on the 2010 season. I do see your viewpoint though. Even if Bradley was only a minor nuisance with occasional outbursts, I'd be willing to keep Bradley because there's no way we'll be a better team on paper after trading Bradley for whoever they get. But I think the bridge has been burned, and having Bradley back next year would be horrible for the Cubs.

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