Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[Hall7810]

Dave Van [expletive] just said he thinks the meetings end w/o Milton being traded. He said the trade partners are very limited and the Cubs will probably have to eat most, if not all of Milton's salary for next season.

[RedFlash]

Dave Van [expletive] just said he thinks the meetings end w/o Milton being traded. He said the trade partners are very limited and the Cubs will probably have to eat most, if not all of Milton's salary for next season.

 

If the Cubs have to eat most or all of the contract, then I prefer to keep him. Essentially Dave is speculating that the only way the Cubs can move Bradley is if they give him away. Which is not what Hendry will nor should do.

[Backtobanks]

Dave Van [expletive] just said he thinks the meetings end w/o Milton being traded. He said the trade partners are very limited and the Cubs will probably have to eat most, if not all of Milton's salary for next season.

 

He also thought that the Cubs would move on and sign a CF (Cameron?) and possibly a relief pitcher before going back to the Bradley situation. Apparently Hendry is confident that the Bradley deal (to the Rays while eating most of the second year) will still be there. Also, apparently Ricketts told Hendry that he could spend what he wants now as long as he gets back to the budgetary limit by opening day.

[Clem Fandango]

The Yankees are kind of upset with Swisher, so maybe work a deal around him.

 

why are they upset with him?

 

Because he's not Matt Holliday.

 

I don't think they are. Swisher was good for them this year, excluding the playoffs where his bad performance mattered not. He provided slightly below league average defense and very good offense for them hitting in a low spot of the lineup. He's only due $6.75 million next year, they have absolutely no reason to trade him. And if they did, they wouldn't trade him for Bradley, he's far more valuable than he is at this point.

[17 Seconds]

each day that goes by without bradley being traded is just making it more and more likely that it's going to be a worse deal than even the ones rumored. by all accounts, hendry is desperate to get rid of bradley as quickly as possible, and can't go on with other business until that's taken care of.

 

so if he's that desperate to move him and still hasn't found a deal that is "satisfactory" by now, we must be looking at some pretty awful offers

[davell]

If we go out and sign Cameron at this point, I'll be thinking that the offseason is basically over. At some point, a team will at least allow us to not have to DFA Bradley and that's literally all I'm expecting from that at this time. I wouldn't be surprised to see it drag on into January or even February, but I don't know that I even see us getting a bad contract in return now. It could literally be a couple of AAAA players and us eating 3/4 of his deal or something else stupid like that.......Like I said, if we can go get Cameron, preferrably on a 1 year deal, my interest in this fiasco will dissipate pretty quickly.

[Guest]

Dave Van [expletive] just said he thinks the meetings end w/o Milton being traded. He said the trade partners are very limited and the Cubs will probably have to eat most, if not all of Milton's salary for next season.

 

That's generally what happens when you go to a gun fight with a spork.

[YearofDaCubs]

Dave Van [expletive] just said he thinks the meetings end w/o Milton being traded. He said the trade partners are very limited and the Cubs will probably have to eat most, if not all of Milton's salary for next season.

Yup, that is probably what is going to happen. Hendry the moron did his best to completely eliminate Bradley's value and in the process made the 3rd year guaranteed. What a moron.

[seanhopper]

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Milton Bradley has a better shot of succeeding Ted Kennedy than he does of wearing a Red Sox uniform....unless I've completely lost my mind.>>

 

Just posted tonight by Gordon Edes. Sounds like there's no deals left on the table for Hendry other than with Tampa for Pat the Bat.

I really hope folks boo and fry Hendry and the other execs at this yrs. Cubs Love Fest. They deserve it.

[Hall7810]

If we go out and sign Cameron at this point, I'll be thinking that the offseason is basically over. At some point, a team will at least allow us to not have to DFA Bradley and that's literally all I'm expecting from that at this time. I wouldn't be surprised to see it drag on into January or even February, but I don't know that I even see us getting a bad contract in return now. It could literally be a couple of AAAA players and us eating 3/4 of his deal or something else stupid like that.......Like I said, if we can go get Cameron, preferrably on a 1 year deal, my interest in this fiasco will dissipate pretty quickly.

 

 

I wonder if other teams in the Bradley hunt are waiting for the Cubs to sign Cameron--weakening the Cubs trading position that much more.

[jnidey83]

Dave Van [expletive] just said he thinks the meetings end w/o Milton being traded. He said the trade partners are very limited and the Cubs will probably have to eat most, if not all of Milton's salary for next season.

 

I'm not doubting you, but do you have a link for that? If it was on TV or the radio, I wouldn't know, living in Deadbird land, but I would appreciate a link if it was online.

[haubrich91]

I was watching NBC Chicago News at around 5 ish and they had a segment about Bradley saying he might be "Beantown Bound". I don't know why they'd want him.

[jnidey83]

I was watching NBC Chicago News at around 5 ish and they had a segment about Bradley saying he might be "Beantown Bound". I don't know why they'd want him.

 

If you're talking about the same thing, thanks for the info. If not, sorry.

[jnidey83]

I was watching NBC Chicago News at around 5 ish and they had a segment about Bradley saying he might be "Beantown Bound". I don't know why they'd want him.

 

Sorry for the double post, but while she says it's an unlikely deal, Muskat's twitter says a Cubs official isn't dismissing a Bradley for Lowell deal.

 

 

I think this will come out crappy for the Cobs no matter what, myself.

[Bull]

What in the world would the Cubs do with Lowell that the Red Sox couldn't do better and without their help?

 

Edit: all the other Lowell rumors seem to involve Texas catcher Ramirez.... does this become a three way? Is Lowell flipped to TX or is Bradley flipped to Texas?

[jnidey83]

What in the world would the Cubs do with Lowell that the Red Sox couldn't do better and without their help?

 

Edit: all the other Lowell rumors seem to involve Texas catcher Ramirez.... does this become a three way? Is Lowell flipped to TX or is Bradley flipped to Texas?

 

Don't know. Like I said, Muskat said it wasn't a likely deal, but it's better than what the locals suggest on the Post-Dispatch forums, which said that if the Cubs were smart, they'd just eat the contract. Oh, to be a Cardinals fan... ](*,)

 

Edit: Edes dismissed it again, but said the Sox would be eating "a ton of dough" with a straight swap of Lowell to Rangers. That gives the three-way deal more credence, but Edes infers the Cubs were told straight out "no."

Edited December 10, 2009 by jnidey83

[cubsfan26]

This Bradley stuff is so annoying. It's like the reverse effect of the last two offseasons with Peavy and Roberts. Because I want him gone as much as I wanted those guys here. But at the same time I didn't want the Cubs to get ripped off to much to get a deal done(I really would be happy if we saved 7-10m of Bradley remaining salary at this point). Not to mention just like those trades, this one is taking forever to get done.

[Bull]

What in the world would the Cubs do with Lowell that the Red Sox couldn't do better and without their help?

 

Edit: all the other Lowell rumors seem to involve Texas catcher Ramirez.... does this become a three way? Is Lowell flipped to TX or is Bradley flipped to Texas?

 

Don't know. Like I said, Muskat said it wasn't a likely deal, but it's better than what the locals suggest on the Post-Dispatch forums, which said that if the Cubs were smart, they'd just eat the contract. Oh, to be a Cardinals fan... ](*,)

 

I'm not going on Muskat, I'm going on a Boston Globe reporter bloghttp:// http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/12/bradley_one_exp.html?comments=all#readerComm

 

[jnidey83]

What in the world would the Cubs do with Lowell that the Red Sox couldn't do better and without their help?

 

Edit: all the other Lowell rumors seem to involve Texas catcher Ramirez.... does this become a three way? Is Lowell flipped to TX or is Bradley flipped to Texas?

 

Don't know. Like I said, Muskat said it wasn't a likely deal, but it's better than what the locals suggest on the Post-Dispatch forums, which said that if the Cubs were smart, they'd just eat the contract. Oh, to be a Cardinals fan... ](*,)

 

I'm not going on Muskat, I'm going on a Boston Globe reporter bloghttp:// http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/12/bradley_one_exp.html?comments=all#readerComm

 

My bad, I didn't mean to infer you were.

[Shilzzz]

a bradley/hermedia set of options really wouldn't be bad, and would come much cheaper than bay or holliday. i think theo worries more about productivity than chemistry, and could see him vulturing all over hendry's corpse.

[UMFan83]

I've been trying not to read this thread too much...mostly because I just don't care. I don't care what the Cubs do this offseason, just start next year and lets be mediocre again, whatever. But the way this Bradley situation is eating up the entire offseason is downright hilarious. Hendry doesn't want to pay 85% of Milton's salary so he's gonna waste the whole offseason trying to find someone dumb enough to take him for less. Otherwise he has no money to spend except from the super secret middle relievers fund. Sorry Jim, when you suspend someone for the last 2 weeks of the season after a season of outbursts and disapointing play, and then make it well known that you can't begin the rest of your offseason until you unload this player, you are not going to have a lot of options.

[Ballgame64]

a bradley/hermedia set of options really wouldn't be bad, and would come much cheaper than bay or holliday. i think theo worries more about productivity than chemistry, and could see him vulturing all over hendry's corpse.

I don't think you are correct about what Theo values. Bill James was on WGN radio a few weeks ago and said while the Boston front office doesn't value stats like RBIs, they do take into consideration the player's personality. He said they would not have been interested in Bradley. Interestingly enough though, he told Kaplan if the Cubs don't want Zambrano to give the Red Sox a call. I think Kaplan was shocked by this because it came at a time when he was saying Zambrano isn't a good pitcher because he only won 9 games in 2009.

[Shilzzz]

Well even if they aren't interested in Bradley, I would imagine that Theo and James value MB closer to his actual value than Hendry does.

[Ballgame64]

Well even if they aren't interested in Bradley, I would imagine that Theo and James value MB closer to his actual value than Hendry does.

But Hendry IS the one who signed him, so obviously Jim valued Milton. Of course he probably valued him wrong to begin with (left handed power hitter, run producer or whatever Lou told Hendry to get).

 

Damn it, it is time to eat some crow Jim and meet with Milton to smooth things out or just take whatever you can get. Spending endless hours trying to trade him seems really silly. In reality, the Ricketts family needs to step up and tell Hendry, you are keeping Bradley or screw it take whatever you can get since we would have to pay him anyway.

[Shilzzz]

i agree w everything you said there