Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[Derwood]

Cashner has [expletive] all to do with Bradley, so stop talking about him

[Shilzzz]

 

And what gave you that "feeling?"

 

 

Just that gut feeling. I had the same feeling when everyone was hyping samardijza, i felt he wasn't that good of a prospect and a reliever at best which i still feel. I felt that way about Hughes, Kennedy, Bucholz, etc. I think if you watch baseball, normally you can see someone and just know they'll be something good. Its just my own opinion, not saying its right.

 

I don't think Buccholz fits in with the others here. Not to throw this thread further off track, but he projects quite differently than Phil Huges or Ian Kennedy, to be sure.

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From Buster Olney: If Red Sox wanted to pursue deal of Mike Lowell, who is owed $12 million, for Milton Bradley that is something the Cubs would be open to. It's unlikely to happen.

[Sammy Sofa]

From Buster Olney: If Red Sox wanted to pursue deal of Mike Lowell, who is owed $12 million, for Milton Bradley that is something the Cubs would be open to. It's unlikely to happen.

 

This made me laugh. It's clearly a scenario Olney made up, asked someone with the Cubs if they'd be open to such an idea and then he wrote it up like it was ever something anyone ever proposed besides Buster Olney himself.

[davell]

From Buster Olney: If Red Sox wanted to pursue deal of Mike Lowell, who is owed $12 million, for Milton Bradley that is something the Cubs would be open to. It's unlikely to happen.

 

 

I think the Cubs are literally "open" to trading Bradley for anything with a pulse and a salary equal or less than Milton......

[JonJayCutler]

So I assume trading for and hanging onto Burrell isn't an option. He can't be any worse in RF than Bradley/Hoffpauir, or can he? Why is moving Kosuke to back RF a must?

 

That said, I wouldn't mind Cameron in CF and Kosuke in RF, but haven't heard anything regarding Cameron as of late.

[jersey cubs fan]

Why because you say so or because this board is the end all of all Chicago Cubs Baseball. Give me a break, its called in an opinion which is what i've been saying all along. Its my opinion not yours.

 

Why? Because it's a stupid meaningless phrase.

 

And there is no opinion involved in the Samardzija question, there was never a time when everybody was hyping him, and from what I've noticed at least half the opinion on him has always been negative.

 

whatever d-bag. And when in the world did i say this board hyped him? Which is basically what you're implying. I said he was hyped, didnt say it was on this board did I.

 

 

d-bag, sweet. At least that's a better line than "how he carries himself".

 

You said everyone was hyping Samardzija. Everyone encompasses a lot of people, including everybody, on this board and away from this board.

[SweetZombieJesus]

So I assume trading for and hanging onto Burrell isn't an option. He can't be any worse in RF than Bradley/Hoffpauir, or can he?

 

He is. Adam Dunn level disaster except without the good hitting.

[JonJayCutler]

So I assume trading for and hanging onto Burrell isn't an option. He can't be any worse in RF than Bradley/Hoffpauir, or can he?

 

He is. Adam Dunn level disaster except without the good hitting.

 

Yeah I suppose you're right. Seven total innings in RF. No thanks.

[davell]

Are we allowed to defer some of the money owed to Milton(given his permission, of course)? If that's possible, then hopefully they are at least looking into that avenue. It could possibly even maximize the return technically, just we would eventually be on the hook for most of the money, which is better to me than currently being on the hook for it at any rate......I hate all these backloaded deals, but if we could spread this thing out some, maybe it would give us some flexibility(especially if we get a GM who's MO isn't backloading every deal he does in the future) since we will have some contracts falling off the books in the near future and also hopefully will have some young guys giving us cheap production here shortly as well......

[JonJayCutler]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman. It would give us more options, as we could get away with playing someone like Burrell or Dunn in LF. Infact, if this were the case I imagine we would have signed Dunn last year.

[CUBZ99]

Orioles got Millwood, so it looks like we can take Texas of the list of possible destinations.

[Tyrant]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

[SouthSideRyan]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

What if Hanley loses his arm in a chainsaw accident?

[MSG T]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

What if Hanley loses his arm in a chainsaw accident?

 

 

One arm Hanley>>>>Theriot.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

What if Hanley loses his arm in a chainsaw accident?

 

I hadn't considered that angle. Ryan should get Lilly on that ASAP.

[Rob]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

On April 8th this year, they both went 2-4 with no XBH. But Theriot even managed a walk on top of everything Hanley did.

[ThePenguin11]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

Not to stray too off topic, but was there ever a time when Soriano was a passable left fielder? I'm not even sure why he was moved in the first place. At least his offense was plus for a bad defensive 2B. Now he's just an about-average offensive LF that plays dreadfully amateurish outfield defense.

[Rob]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

Not to stray too off topic, but was there ever a time when Soriano was a passable left fielder? I'm not even sure why he was moved in the first place. At least his offense was plus for a bad defensive 2B. Now he's just an about-average offensive LF that plays dreadfully amateurish outfield defense.

 

Up until just last season, he'd been significantly above-average defensively in LF.

[dew1679666265]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

Not to stray too off topic, but was there ever a time when Soriano was a passable left fielder? I'm not even sure why he was moved in the first place. At least his offense was plus for a bad defensive 2B. Now he's just an about-average offensive LF that plays dreadfully amateurish outfield defense.

 

UZR/150 had him at 22.4 in 2007 in left and at 5.2 in 2008.

[SouthSideRyan]

I thought he was decent enough to hold down CF when he was out there.

[ThePenguin11]

On that note, its really unfortunate that Soriano wasn't/isn't a better 2nd baseman.

 

It's also unfortunate that Ryan Theriot can't hit like Hanley Ramirez.

 

To be fair, there was a time when Soriano was a passable second baseman, there's never going to be a time when Theriot hits like Hanley.

 

Not to stray too off topic, but was there ever a time when Soriano was a passable left fielder? I'm not even sure why he was moved in the first place. At least his offense was plus for a bad defensive 2B. Now he's just an about-average offensive LF that plays dreadfully amateurish outfield defense.

 

UZR/150 had him at 22.4 in 2007 in left and at 5.2 in 2008.

 

Fair enough, I guess. I've always thought he looked pretty lost out there. I also thought he got better reads as a CF. I could be wrong though.

[dew1679666265]

Fair enough, I guess. I've always thought he looked pretty lost out there. I also thought he got better reads as a CF. I could be wrong though.

 

Just from watching him, he does make some memorably odd plays out there. Overall, however, he's usually average to above average.

[Rob]

 

Fair enough, I guess. I've always thought he looked pretty lost out there. I also thought he got better reads as a CF. I could be wrong though.

 

At a position populated by big, slow sluggers who take awful routes, the fast guy who takes awful routes can still be above average pretty easily.

 

If his leg injuries manage to recover during this offseason, he should be fine out there again.