Harden/Heilman claimed on waivers (neither traded)

[Rusch33]

according to Rosenthal.

[E.J.]

Hmm. Interesting. Heilman can obviously go. I'd interested in finding out what we can get for Harden.

[E.J.]

Here's the article by the way for anyone who's interested.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9993146/Sources:-Cubs'-Harden,-Heilman-claimed

 

If the Cubs want to point toward the future, this is their chance.

 

Right-handed starter Rich Harden and right-handed reliever Aaron Heilman have been claimed on waivers, according to major-league sources.

 

A National League team was awarded the claim on Heilman, one source said. The claiming team on Harden is not known, but presumably he did not get through the NL, either. Players must pass through their own league first before being exposed on waivers to teams in the other league.

 

The Cubs will have until Monday afternoon to work out trades, allow Harden and Heilman to depart on claims or pull them back them from waivers.

[Guest]

Interesting. I'd let mayo go and bring Stevens back up to take his place and get a better feel for how much he can contribute next season.

 

Harden would have to bring a very significant return for me to trade him. Because he's likely to get us two first rounders if we hang onto him - or be a key part of 2010 & beyond.

[jersey cubs fan]

Interesting. I'd let mayo go and bring Stevens back up to take his place and get a better feel for how much he can contribute next season.

 

Harden would have to bring a very significant return for me to trade him. Because he's likely to get us two first rounders if we hang onto him - or be a key part of 2010 & beyond.

 

If they trade Harden, does it have to be somebody who is not on a 40-man roster or somebody else who has passed through waivers?

[dew1679666265]

Interesting. I'd let mayo go and bring Stevens back up to take his place and get a better feel for how much he can contribute next season.

 

Harden would have to bring a very significant return for me to trade him. Because he's likely to get us two first rounders if we hang onto him - or be a key part of 2010 & beyond.

 

If they trade Harden, does it have to be somebody who is not on a 40-man roster or somebody else who has passed through waivers?

 

Yeah, it'd have to be players either off the 40 man roster or who have already passed through waivers. High-end A or AA players might be the best bet at this point in the year. I'd say most top prospects in AAA are already rostered.

 

However, I think they could do a Harden for 2-3 PTBNLs and announce the guys after the season. I think then they could get guys on 40 man rosters.

Edited August 27, 2009 by dew

[CubColtPacer]

Interesting. I'd let mayo go and bring Stevens back up to take his place and get a better feel for how much he can contribute next season.

 

Harden would have to bring a very significant return for me to trade him. Because he's likely to get us two first rounders if we hang onto him - or be a key part of 2010 & beyond.

 

If they trade Harden, does it have to be somebody who is not on a 40-man roster or somebody else who has passed through waivers?

 

IIRC, yes. Although they can designate a 40 man player as a PTBNL and then complete the trade after the season when the waivers don't apply (that's assuming the player on the 40 man is in the minors or in the AL..if he is in the NL, that workaround cannot be used).

[jersey cubs fan]

Interesting. I'd let mayo go and bring Stevens back up to take his place and get a better feel for how much he can contribute next season.

 

Harden would have to bring a very significant return for me to trade him. Because he's likely to get us two first rounders if we hang onto him - or be a key part of 2010 & beyond.

 

If they trade Harden, does it have to be somebody who is not on a 40-man roster or somebody else who has passed through waivers?

 

IIRC, yes. Although they can designate a 40 man player as a PTBNL and then complete the trade after the season when the waivers don't apply (that's assuming the player on the 40 man is in the minors or in the AL..if he is in the NL, that workaround cannot be used).

 

That seems quite shady.

 

And I forgot to add that I'd for somebody else to pick up the highly mediocre easy to predict failure that is Heilman.

[biittner77]

The only reason not to trade Heilman is so that Stevens, Caridad or Berg can pitch during the minor league playoffs.

 

Any guesses as to who the team is? I'm going with the Dodgers. Their pen has logged a lot of innings.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Any guesses as to who the team is? I'm going with the Dodgers. Their pen has logged a lot of innings.

 

I bet the Marlins. Heilman absolutely tortures them for some reason.

[RedFlash]

There should be no reason why Heilman is on the Cubs come September 1. But we know he will be.

[Keener98]

The only way they better trade Harden is if they are getting a very good return, if its not, then take the picks or re-sign him. Heilman should have been off the team awhile ago.

[StMarksCubs]

Obviously, the 'between the lines' on this is that Milton Bradley went unclaimed...!

[coreyMVP]

If it is true that Hendry is coming back, I'd rather see a trade -- the two picks are worthless under the Hendry regime.

[jersey cubs fan]

If it is true that Hendry is coming back, I'd rather see a trade -- the two picks are worthless under the Hendry regime.

 

They've had some nice picks in recent years.

[UMFan83]

Obviously, the 'between the lines' on this is that Milton Bradley went unclaimed...!

 

Where does it say that Bradley was put on waivers or that Harden and Heilman were the only 2 that were claimed?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Keep Harden unless we get something steller. Let Heilman go for whatever.

[CUBZ99]

This is a good opportunity for Hendry to beef up the farm system even more.

[17 Seconds]

"even more"?

[Smack]

lol

[CUBZ99]

"even more"?

 

You must not pay attention to the farm system. This year it has taken a big step forward.

[laurens]

I'd trade Heilman for a bag of balls

[dew1679666265]

"even more"?

 

The last two or three drafts have helped the farm system greatly. Add in the very intriguing international signings and the farm system has gotten quite a bit deeper over the past couple of years.

[Outshined_One]

The farm system is probably a tick or two below average compared to the rest of MLB right now, but it's a major improvement from where it was this time last year.

[sneakypower]

but the guys in our farm have kinda bad career road OPSes