Re: College Football - Bowl Discussion

[Mephistopheles]

Top Three Bowl Games, In My Opinion.

 

3. Cotton Bowl: #24 Mississippi vs #6 Texas Tech, 1/2/2009

2. Poinsettia Bowl: #11 Boise State vs #10 Texas Christian, 12/23/2008

1. BCS National Championship Game: #1 Oklahoma vs #2 Florida, 1/8/2009

 

Five Biggest Mismatches:

16.32 Alamo Bowl: #12 Missouri vs #36 Northwestern

12.27 Fiesta Bowl: #8 Ohio State vs #3 Texas

11.80 Hawaii Bowl: #73 Hawai`i vs #51 Notre Dame

10.70 Outback Bowl: #38 South Carolina vs #21 Iowa

10.00 Emerald Bowl: #32 Miami FL vs #19 California

 

Five Closest Matches:

.59 BCS National Championship Game: #2 Florida vs #1 Oklahoma

.67 Armed Forces Bowl: #67 Houston vs #45 Air Force

.78 Sugar Bowl: #9 Alabama vs #7 Utah

.81 GMAC Bowl: #47 Tulsa vs #34 Ball St

.88 Holiday Bowl: #13 Oklahoma St vs #17 Oregon

[shnsajax]

Top Three Bowl Games, In My Opinion.

 

3. Cotton Bowl: #24 Mississippi vs #6 Texas Tech, 1/2/2009

2. Poinsettia Bowl: #11 Boise State vs #10 Texas Christian, 12/23/2008

1. BCS National Championship Game: #1 Oklahoma vs #2 Florida, 1/8/2009

 

Five Biggest Mismatches:

16.32 Alamo Bowl: #12 Missouri vs #36 Northwestern

12.27 Fiesta Bowl: #8 Ohio State vs #3 Texas

11.80 Hawaii Bowl: #73 Hawai`i vs #51 Notre Dame

10.70 Outback Bowl: #38 South Carolina vs #21 Iowa

10.00 Emerald Bowl: #32 Miami FL vs #19 California

 

Five Closest Matches:

.59 BCS National Championship Game: #2 Florida vs #1 Oklahoma

.67 Armed Forces Bowl: #67 Houston vs #45 Air Force

.78 Sugar Bowl: #9 Alabama vs #7 Utah

.81 GMAC Bowl: #47 Tulsa vs #34 Ball St

.88 Holiday Bowl: #13 Oklahoma St vs #17 Oregon

 

I'm very interested in the TCU game, the Holiday bowl looks like it could be great as well. Though the Holiday Bowl usually never disappoints.

[abuck1220]

I was hoping Iowa would leapfrog MSU. Oh well. Despite the records, I think there should be little doubt that Iowa is a better team than either Northwestern or MSU. That said, I'm happy to have leapfrogged just one of them. Both would be greedy.

...and the fact that MSU and Northwestern both beat Iowa?

 

iowa travels very well and is red hot. i think they would beat northwestern by two td's if they played right now. they'd possibly beat osu.

[Soul]

I was hoping Iowa would leapfrog MSU. Oh well. Despite the records, I think there should be little doubt that Iowa is a better team than either Northwestern or MSU. That said, I'm happy to have leapfrogged just one of them. Both would be greedy.

...and the fact that MSU and Northwestern both beat Iowa?

 

iowa travels very well and is red hot. i think they would beat northwestern by two td's if they played right now. they'd possibly beat osu.

 

They still shouldn't leapfrog teams they lost to, especially when they finished with a worse overall record. That said, Northwestern probably played themselves into a blowout. It might've been a nicer ending to the senior's time at the school if they drew a lower bowl.

Edited December 8, 2008 by Soul

[rchap24]

Top Three Bowl Games, In My Opinion.

 

3. Cotton Bowl: #24 Mississippi vs #6 Texas Tech, 1/2/2009

2. Poinsettia Bowl: #11 Boise State vs #10 Texas Christian, 12/23/2008

1. BCS National Championship Game: #1 Oklahoma vs #2 Florida, 1/8/2009

 

Five Biggest Mismatches:

16.32 Alamo Bowl: #12 Missouri vs #36 Northwestern

12.27 Fiesta Bowl: #8 Ohio State vs #3 Texas

11.80 Hawaii Bowl: #73 Hawai`i vs #51 Notre Dame

10.70 Outback Bowl: #38 South Carolina vs #21 Iowa

10.00 Emerald Bowl: #32 Miami FL vs #19 California

 

Five Closest Matches:

.59 BCS National Championship Game: #2 Florida vs #1 Oklahoma

.67 Armed Forces Bowl: #67 Houston vs #45 Air Force

.78 Sugar Bowl: #9 Alabama vs #7 Utah

.81 GMAC Bowl: #47 Tulsa vs #34 Ball St

.88 Holiday Bowl: #13 Oklahoma St vs #17 Oregon

 

I'm very interested in the TCU game, the Holiday bowl looks like it could be great as well. Though the Holiday Bowl usually never disappoints.

 

TCU and Boise has to be close...There very similar teams

[hawkeyecub]

I was hoping Iowa would leapfrog MSU. Oh well. Despite the records, I think there should be little doubt that Iowa is a better team than either Northwestern or MSU. That said, I'm happy to have leapfrogged just one of them. Both would be greedy.

...and the fact that MSU and Northwestern both beat Iowa?

 

iowa travels very well and is red hot. i think they would beat northwestern by two td's if they played right now. they'd possibly beat osu.

 

They still shouldn't leapfrog teams they lost to, especially when they finished with a worse overall record. That said, Northwestern probably played themselves into a blowout. It might've been a nicer ending to the senior's time at the school if they drew a lower bowl.

 

Overall record is a pretty meaningless tool for a situation like this. Iowa went 3-1 in non-conference because they lost a close game AT Pitt. Northwestern's toughest road game was at Duke.

 

It would stink to be a Northwestern fan and get jumped by a team you beat head to head. However I think Iowa is definitely a better team and they will bring thousands more fans. It was clear this would happen.

[Soul]

I was hoping Iowa would leapfrog MSU. Oh well. Despite the records, I think there should be little doubt that Iowa is a better team than either Northwestern or MSU. That said, I'm happy to have leapfrogged just one of them. Both would be greedy.

...and the fact that MSU and Northwestern both beat Iowa?

 

iowa travels very well and is red hot. i think they would beat northwestern by two td's if they played right now. they'd possibly beat osu.

 

They still shouldn't leapfrog teams they lost to, especially when they finished with a worse overall record. That said, Northwestern probably played themselves into a blowout. It might've been a nicer ending to the senior's time at the school if they drew a lower bowl.

 

Overall record is a pretty meaningless tool for a situation like this. Iowa went 3-1 in non-conference because they lost a close game AT Pitt. Northwestern's toughest road game was at Duke.

 

It would stink to be a Northwestern fan and get jumped by a team you beat head to head. However I think Iowa is definitely a better team and they will bring thousands more fans. It was clear this would happen.

 

Iowa's probably better, but they didn't prove it on the field against those teams.

[abuck1220]

who cares? it's not like they jumped northwestern for a shot at the nat'l title. iowa will presumably play better than nw in the outback bowl and bring more fans. that's how it goes.

[SouthSideRyan]

Meph what are the %s on the OU/Texas game?

[bcl412]

I was hoping Iowa would leapfrog MSU. Oh well. Despite the records, I think there should be little doubt that Iowa is a better team than either Northwestern or MSU. That said, I'm happy to have leapfrogged just one of them. Both would be greedy.

...and the fact that MSU and Northwestern both beat Iowa?

 

iowa travels very well and is red hot. i think they would beat northwestern by two td's if they played right now. they'd possibly beat osu.

 

They still shouldn't leapfrog teams they lost to, especially when they finished with a worse overall record. That said, Northwestern probably played themselves into a blowout. It might've been a nicer ending to the senior's time at the school if they drew a lower bowl.

 

Overall record is a pretty meaningless tool for a situation like this. Iowa went 3-1 in non-conference because they lost a close game AT Pitt. Northwestern's toughest road game was at Duke.

 

It would stink to be a Northwestern fan and get jumped by a team you beat head to head. However I think Iowa is definitely a better team and they will bring thousands more fans. It was clear this would happen.

 

Iowa's probably better, but they didn't prove it on the field against those teams.

 

I agree that NW should be in a better bowl than Iowa (Although it could be argued that playing Mizzou rather than S. Carolina=better bowl). However, bowls aren't made to award accomplishments, they are made to make money. Now they do award accomplishments by default because the better teams are going to bring more money, but bowls are going to pick whoever they think is going to draw the most people and money. If there weren't conference tie ins you would see an even more messed up system. I bet there would be times when teams with losing records getting picked over 1-2 loss teams.

[Soul]

who cares? it's not like they jumped northwestern for a shot at the nat'l title. iowa will presumably play better than nw in the outback bowl and bring more fans. that's how it goes.

 

It's interesting because I think it would have been a better matchup to just have Iowa/Mizzou and then Northwestern/SC.

 

I don't really care, so to speak. I wish there was a better way to determine things that's all. Right now it's determined based on opinion and hypotheticals (to a large degree). I don't like that. I'm not losing any sleep over it though.

[Jon]

With South Carolina going, the Outback Bowl was going to sell out regardless. They selected Iowa because they wanted to be overly safe in this economy.

[B]

 

 

 

Five Biggest Mismatches:

16.32 Alamo Bowl: #12 Missouri vs #36 Northwestern

12.27 Fiesta Bowl: #8 Ohio State vs #3 Texas

11.80 Hawaii Bowl: #73 Hawai`i vs #51 Notre Dame

10.70 Outback Bowl: #38 South Carolina vs #21 Iowa

10.00 Emerald Bowl: #32 Miami FL vs #19 California

 

Who are you saying the favorite is? I would think Hawaii beats ND.

[abuck1220]

they had the same conference records. iowa finished much stronger. iowa beat penn state, northwestern lost to freaking indiana. this isn't some outrageous injustice here.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

 

 

Five Biggest Mismatches:

16.32 Alamo Bowl: #12 Missouri vs #36 Northwestern

12.27 Fiesta Bowl: #8 Ohio State vs #3 Texas

11.80 Hawaii Bowl: #73 Hawai`i vs #51 Notre Dame

10.70 Outback Bowl: #38 South Carolina vs #21 Iowa

10.00 Emerald Bowl: #32 Miami FL vs #19 California

 

Who are you saying the favorite is? I would think Hawaii beats ND.

 

Considering he has Hawaii as #73 and ND as #51, I'd say Notre Dame.

 

I bet Notre Dame wins, but fails to cover as usual.

[fiver]

I don't think Alabama - Utah is going to be particularly close..

[B]

 

 

 

Five Biggest Mismatches:

16.32 Alamo Bowl: #12 Missouri vs #36 Northwestern

12.27 Fiesta Bowl: #8 Ohio State vs #3 Texas

11.80 Hawaii Bowl: #73 Hawai`i vs #51 Notre Dame

10.70 Outback Bowl: #38 South Carolina vs #21 Iowa

10.00 Emerald Bowl: #32 Miami FL vs #19 California

 

Who are you saying the favorite is? I would think Hawaii beats ND.

 

Considering he has Hawaii as #73 and ND as #51, I'd say Notre Dame.

 

I bet Notre Dame wins, but fails to cover as usual.

I don't know. Should be a good crappy game.

[rchap24]

I don't think Alabama - Utah is going to be particularly close..

 

I think Utah vs. Ohio State would have been closer, Also I think that Notre Dame vs. Hawaii game will just be horrid. Notre Dame might win, but I'm not going to both to watch it

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't think Alabama - Utah is going to be particularly close..

 

Man, the RedFlash response would be epic with a Utah win.

[RedFlash]

I don't think Alabama - Utah is going to be particularly close..

 

Man, the RedFlash response would be epic with a Utah win.

 

You wish. You know Alabama is going to beat Utah.

[imb]

well looks like the title game matchup is decided im kind of a god with numbers you know so its ou-texas

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't think Alabama - Utah is going to be particularly close..

 

Man, the RedFlash response would be epic with a Utah win.

 

You wish. You know Alabama is going to beat Utah.

 

I'd bet Bama wins, but I wouldn't be shocked if Utah beat them.

[RedFlash]

I don't think Alabama - Utah is going to be particularly close..

 

Man, the RedFlash response would be epic with a Utah win.

 

You wish. You know Alabama is going to beat Utah.

 

I'd bet Bama wins, but I wouldn't be shocked if Utah beat them.

 

I think I heard the best comparasion of Utah as being "Florida without Tim Tebow." Since Alabama played Florida really tough, and seeing UTAH doesn't have a Tebow at QB, I suspect this game won't be close.

 

If Utah wins---I won't "guarantee" anything more, unless it's a tongue in cheek---it will prolly be the biggest upset in the BCS this yr. Nonetheless, I expect Alabama to win comfortably.

[bcl412]

Alabama has barely beaten teams worst than Utah (Tulane, Kentucky). I wouldn't be shocked if Utah kept it close or won.

 

I think Penn State and USC will be closer than expected too. USC's D is good but I don't think they'll move the ball all over the field against Penn State. Plus Penn State's offense isn't that bad either. I still think USC wins but it will be close IMO.

 

I think Texas is going to destroy OSU. And I don't really know anything about Cincinatti or VT except both conferences aren't that good. I'll probably cheer for Cincinatti though

 

I think OU rips Florida although that's just a gut feeling. The long layoff might destroy their momentum and rhythm.

 

 

On an aside, I think Iowa has the best chance for the the Big Ten to pull out a win. In fact I think they win by two TD's.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Utah will stick with them for a while, but unless they get some turnovers, the size difference in the trenches and the "neutral" crowd will wear them down.