Re: College Football - Bowl Discussion

[Andy]

Notre Dame will indeed play Hawaii in Hawaii, on Christmas Eve night.

 

Boise State/TCU in the championship of non-BCS little guys in San Diego.

[UMFan83]

Michigan in the "UMFan is crying" Bowl.

 

Go UM Hoops!

[Andy]

Cincy to the Orange, meaning Ohio State probably to the Fiesta against Texas and Utah to the Sugar against Bama.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Alamo Bowl isn't what I would've dreamed prior to the season, but I like our odds of getting to 10 wins in the J-School Bowl.

[Andy]

Only four spots left to be filled.

[B]

Notre Dame will choose between playing Rice in the Texas Bowl and playing Louisiana Tech in the Independence Bowl.

I wish they would've chosen the Indy Bowl to play Tech.

[snoodmonger]

I'm disappointed that a team we beat on the road and that has a worse record has leapfrogged us, but that's the name of the game. This wouldn't have happened if we just took care of business against an awful Kansas team. In any case, it should be a fun game and an absolute shootout.

 

Haha, we beat you.

[Mephistopheles]

final bcs standings

 

TEAM Harris

Rank % of 2825 USA Today

Rank % of 1525 Computer % of 100 points Computer Rank BCS Average

1 Oklahoma 2 0.9554 1 0.9718 1.000 1 0.9757

2 Florida 1 0.9827 2 0.9711 0.890 3 0.9479

3 Texas 3 0.9260 3 0.9233 0.940 2 0.9298

4 Alabama 4 0.8644 4t 0.8584 0.810 6 0.8443

5 USC 5 0.8542 4t 0.8584 0.750 7 0.8208

6 Utah 7 0.7501 7 0.7436 0.860 5 0.7846

7 Texas Tech 8 0.7398 8 0.7423 0.870 4 0.7840

8 Penn State 6 0.7738 6 0.7823 0.660 9 0.7387

9 Boise State 9 0.6860 9 0.6780 0.730 8 0.6980

10 Ohio State 10 0.6577 10 0.6584 0.590 11 0.6354

11 TCU 11 0.5593 11 0.5751 0.620 10 0.5848

12 Cincinnati 12 0.5409 12 0.5443 0.530 12 0.5384

13 Okla St 13 0.4963 14 0.4734 0.490 13 0.4866

14 Ga Tech 14 0.4322 15 0.4525 0.470 14 0.4516

15 Georgia 17 0.3604 17 0.3521 0.420 15 0.3775

16 BYU 16 0.3791 16 0.3548 0.340 16 0.3580

17 Oregon 15 0.4287 13 0.4898 0.100 23 0.3395

18 Michigan St 18 0.2942 18 0.3056 0.260 19 0.2866

19 Va Tech 22 0.1809 19 0.2210 0.330 17 0.2440

20 Pitt 19 0.2258 21 0.2072 0.280 18 0.2377

21 Missouri 24 0.1352 23 0.1430 0.210 20 0.1627

22 Ball State 20 0.2156 22 0.1436 0.080 25 0.1464

23 Nwestern 21 0.1940 20 0.2190 0.000 NR 0.1377

24 Boston Coll 26 0.0609 26 0.0630 0.190 22 0.1046

25 Ole Miss 23 0.1462 24 0.1049 0.000 NR 0.0837

26 Florida State 28 0.0152 28 0.0144 0.210 20 0.0799

27 Oregon St 25 0.0807 25 0.0859 0.000 NR 0.0555

28 No Carolina NR 0.0000 32 0.0039 0.100 23 0.0346

29 Iowa 27 0.0237 27 0.0262 0.000 NR 0.0166

30 Nebraska 37 0.0007 33 0.0033 0.030 26 0.0113

31 California 29 0.0113 30 0.0079 0.000 NR 0.0064

32 E Carolina 30 0.0081 29 0.0098 0.000 NR 0.0060

33 Clemson NR 0.0000 NR 0.0000 0.010 27 0.0033

34 Kansas 34t 0.0011 31 0.0066 0.000 NR 0.0025

35 Tulsa 31 0.0071 NR 0.0000 0.000 NR 0.0024

36 West Va 32 0.0067 NR 0.0000 0.000 NR 0.0022

37 Rice 33 0.0028 34 0.0020 0.000 NR 0.0016

38 Rutgers 37 0.0007 36 0.0013 0.000 NR 0.0007

39 Buffalo NR 0.0000 34 0.0020 0.000 NR 0.0007

40 LSU 34t 0.0011 NR 0.0000 0.000 NR 0.0004

40 West Mich 34t 0.0011 NR 0.0000 0.000 NR 0.0004

[Mephistopheles]

1 Oklahoma 25 25 25 25 25 25 1.000 1 0.9757

3 Texas 23 22 24 23 24 24 0.940 2 0.9298

2 Florida 22 24 23 21 22 22 0.890 3 0.9479

7 Texas Tech 21 20 20 24 23 23 0.870 4 0.7840

6 Utah 24 19 22 22 21 21 0.860 5 0.7846

4 Alabama 20 21 21 20 20 19 0.810 6 0.8443

5 USC 17 23 19 19 19 18 0.750 7 0.8208

9 Boise State 19 18 18 18 18 20 0.730 8 0.6980

8 Penn State 18 16 17 16 16 17 0.660 9 0.7387

11 TCU 15 14 12 17 17 16 0.620 10 0.5848

10 Ohio State 16 17 16 12 11 15 0.590 11 0.6354

12 Cincinnati 14 10 15 13 12 14 0.530 12 0.5384

13 Oklahoma St 9 13 8 14 15 13 0.490 13 0.4866

14 Georgia Tech 10 12 10 15 14 11 0.470 14 0.4516

15 Georgia 13 11 13 8 9 9 0.420 15 0.3775

16 BYU 8 15 6 7 7 12 0.340 16 0.3580

19 Virginia Tech 6 1 7 10 13 10 0.330 17 0.2440

20 Pitt 12 3 14 3 5 8 0.280 18 0.2377

18 Michigan St 11 6 11 2 1 7 0.260 19 0.2866

21 Missouri 7 7 3 5 4 5 0.210 20 0.1627

26 Florida State 5 0 2 11 10 4 0.210 20 0.0799

24 Boston Coll 4 0 5 9 8 2 0.190 22 0.1046

17 Oregon 0 9 4 0 0 6 0.100 23 0.3395

28 North Carolina 2 0 1 6 6 1 0.100 23 0.0346

22 Ball State 1 4 9 0 0 3 0.080 25 0.1464

30 Nebraska 3 0 0 4 0 0 0.030 26 0.0113

33 Clemson 0 0 0 1 2 0 0.010 27 0.0033

42 Miami 0 0 0 0 3 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Maryland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Central Mich 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 South Carolina 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Wake Forest 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 NC State 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Fresno State 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Air Force 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Arizona 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

[NCCubFan]

Your exclusion of Cincinnati and Ball State from your ballot is completely laughable.

Fixed.

[manbearcub]

1 Oklahoma 25 25 25 25 25 25 1.000 1 0.9757

3 Texas 23 22 24 23 24 24 0.940 2 0.9298

2 Florida 22 24 23 21 22 22 0.890 3 0.9479

7 Texas Tech 21 20 20 24 23 23 0.870 4 0.7840

6 Utah 24 19 22 22 21 21 0.860 5 0.7846

4 Alabama 20 21 21 20 20 19 0.810 6 0.8443

5 USC 17 23 19 19 19 18 0.750 7 0.8208

9 Boise State 19 18 18 18 18 20 0.730 8 0.6980

8 Penn State 18 16 17 16 16 17 0.660 9 0.7387

11 TCU 15 14 12 17 17 16 0.620 10 0.5848

10 Ohio State 16 17 16 12 11 15 0.590 11 0.6354

12 Cincinnati 14 10 15 13 12 14 0.530 12 0.5384

13 Oklahoma St 9 13 8 14 15 13 0.490 13 0.4866

14 Georgia Tech 10 12 10 15 14 11 0.470 14 0.4516

15 Georgia 13 11 13 8 9 9 0.420 15 0.3775

16 BYU 8 15 6 7 7 12 0.340 16 0.3580

19 Virginia Tech 6 1 7 10 13 10 0.330 17 0.2440

20 Pitt 12 3 14 3 5 8 0.280 18 0.2377

18 Michigan St 11 6 11 2 1 7 0.260 19 0.2866

21 Missouri 7 7 3 5 4 5 0.210 20 0.1627

26 Florida State 5 0 2 11 10 4 0.210 20 0.0799

24 Boston Coll 4 0 5 9 8 2 0.190 22 0.1046

17 Oregon 0 9 4 0 0 6 0.100 23 0.3395

28 North Carolina 2 0 1 6 6 1 0.100 23 0.0346

22 Ball State 1 4 9 0 0 3 0.080 25 0.1464

30 Nebraska 3 0 0 4 0 0 0.030 26 0.0113

33 Clemson 0 0 0 1 2 0 0.010 27 0.0033

42 Miami 0 0 0 0 3 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Maryland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Central Mich 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 South Carolina 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Wake Forest 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 NC State 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Fresno State 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Air Force 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

42 Arizona 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 28 0.0000

 

 

Is this the computers? Where is Iowa?

[Mephistopheles]

how some of the coaches voted

 

Mack Brown:

 

1. Florida

2. Texas

3. OU

 

Voted Texas #1:

1. Chizik

2. Price

3. Neuheisel

3. Dodge

 

Voted Texas #5 (lowest):

1. Leach

2. Briles

3. Dantonio

4. Schiano

 

urban voted ole miss #12

 

the zooker didnt vote florida one

[Mephistopheles]

oh and leach voted tech #2

[ConstableRabbit]

I was hoping Iowa would leapfrog MSU. Oh well. Despite the records, I think there should be little doubt that Iowa is a better team than either Northwestern or MSU. That said, I'm happy to have leapfrogged just one of them. Both would be greedy.

...and the fact that MSU and Northwestern both beat Iowa?

[Guest]

final bcs standings

1 Oklahoma

2 Florida

 

But you said that Florida was going to get left out of the title game even if they beat Alabama.

 

Oops.

[Mephistopheles]

75.35 Penn State

69.68 Ohio State

62.68 Iowa

61.44 Michigan St

57.66 Northwestern

55.30 Wisconsin

51.75 Illinois

51.05 Minnesota

49.17 Purdue

43.95 Michigan

35.87 Indiana

[Mephistopheles]

final bcs standings

1 Oklahoma

2 Florida

 

But you said that Florida was going to get left out of the title game even if they beat Alabama.

 

Oops.

 

no i said there was a chance. the voters completely flip-flopped on texas.

[UK1679666180]

No mention of the UK vs. ECU Liberty Bowl yet?

 

ECU is the better team, hopefully UK can do better than it has of late with Hartline back at QB.

 

 

(off-subject)

Snood, the subject of Mangino came up today at a baseball showcase, one of the rumors was that he has to have a shower in his office b/c he is unable to wipe himself. Now, I don't believe it, but the person saying this (who I do respect) says this comes from a credible source.

[Guest]

final bcs standings

1 Oklahoma

2 Florida

 

But you said that Florida was going to get left out of the title game even if they beat Alabama.

 

Oops.

 

no i said there was a chance. the voters completely flip-flopped on texas.

 

Which wasn't the least bit surprising since they did the same thing with Michigan two years ago.

[Mephistopheles]

51.53 East Carolina

49.00 Kentucky

[Mephistopheles]

final bcs standings

1 Oklahoma

2 Florida

 

But you said that Florida was going to get left out of the title game even if they beat Alabama.

 

Oops.

 

no i said there was a chance. the voters completely flip-flopped on texas.

 

Which wasn't the least bit surprising since they did the same thing with Michigan two years ago.

 

this was a totally different situation.

[Guest]

final bcs standings

1 Oklahoma

2 Florida

 

But you said that Florida was going to get left out of the title game even if they beat Alabama.

 

Oops.

 

no i said there was a chance. the voters completely flip-flopped on texas.

 

Which wasn't the least bit surprising since they did the same thing with Michigan two years ago.

 

this was a totally different situation.

 

Well, in the sense that Texas beat OU but was left out of the Big 12 and BCS title games while Michigan lost to Ohio State and was left out of the BCS title game, sure, it's different.

 

But in the sense that Texas didn't win the Big 12 title and was dropped in favor of another 1-loss team who its conference title, it's exactly the same.

[UMFan83]

final bcs standings

1 Oklahoma

2 Florida

 

But you said that Florida was going to get left out of the title game even if they beat Alabama.

 

Oops.

 

no i said there was a chance. the voters completely flip-flopped on texas.

 

Which wasn't the least bit surprising since they did the same thing with Michigan two years ago.

 

this was a totally different situation.

 

Well, in the sense that Texas beat OU but was left out of the Big 12 and BCS title games while Michigan lost to Ohio State and was left out of the BCS title game, sure, it's different.

 

But in the sense that Texas didn't win the Big 12 title and was dropped in favor of another 1-loss team who its conference title, it's exactly the same.

 

Yeah but its kinda different circumstances in that A) there is no big ten title game, even though that UM/OSU game was a defacto one, B) Michigan was #2 in the second to last BCS poll (after the loss) and was jumped by Florida, C) The voters had an agenda, not wanting UM and OSU to play again and not allowing 2 teams in a weaker Big 10 conference play each other for the title.

 

I am still bitter about it happening (obviously not the first time Michigan is seemingly screwed by the polls for doing nothing wrong - 1997), but it was probably the right move.

[UMFan83]

Texas didn't even get a good bowl draw. They will murder OSU and no one will blink an eye because that's what they are supposed to do. I am not sure, was that pairing pretty much set in stone? I would have hoped they played like Alabama.

[Smack]

Wow, BCS is going to be a yawner except for the title game this year. Texas is going to destroy Ohio State, USC is going to destroy Penn State, and Alabama is going to destroy Utah. I'd be pretty surprised if any of those games were closer than two touchdowns. Oh, I forgot Cincy/VA Tech... who cares.