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I can't see it happening because he is viewed as the team leader.

 

I'd love to see him traded and see the Cubs go out and sign Tex.

 

I'd sign Tex before trading away DLee, though. If you trade Lee and don't sign Tex, then what?

 

Adam Dunn?

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I can't see it happening because he is viewed as the team leader.

 

I'd love to see him traded and see the Cubs go out and sign Tex.

 

I'd sign Tex before trading away DLee, though. If you trade Lee and don't sign Tex, then what?

 

Adam Dunn?

 

Micah Hoffpauir. :thumbsup:

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If we are trading Lee just to get rid of him, I'd say the Giants are the best fit. Doesn't he live in SF? He could easily be convinced they have a bright future with their pitching, and they seem to like past their prime hitters.

 

Unless we can get an upgrade, I don't see the point in moving Lee just to move him. If we can get Tex, by all means trade him.

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The only reason I would see them consider trading Lee is if their was something better on the horizon. While he is not a number 3 hitter anymore, he could still do great as a number 6 hitter. Hes not the kind of guy that you just trade for nothing. If they really do have faith that Hoff can be a major league first baseman, and a quality LH bat, and we could get something quality in return, go for it. However, coming from the guy who guaranteed Brian Roberts was coming to the Cubs, take it with a grain of salt.
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He was on the score at 3pm. He says Lee is expendable because he still has value and the Cubs must get more left handed hitters in the lineup.

 

He basically said the Cubs can't win with the core group in the playoffs because they are suspect to good right handed pitching.

 

Most of us know that but the D-Lee thing was interesting.

 

The title of this thread doesn't agree with this post. This post basically states Stone's opinion that Lee is expendable, etc. while the title suggests that Stone has information that Lee will be traded.

 

Stone said he believes that Lee will be traded but just backed it up with what the op said.

 

Of course he also talked about how he would be leery of picking up Harden's option because he can't pitch every 5 days (said something like every 9th day) and that kills your rotation. Said of course he's almost unhittable when healthy but rarely is and walks too many batters. He would just pick up the option to use him in a trade.

 

Impossible, Steve Stone told me Harden's option wasn't being picked up.

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Considering the Jason Giambi era for the Yankees is at an end, I wonder what hed be worth to them.

 

What about a Lee for Cano package? Cano or Derosa could be moved to 1B and the other plays 2B(This could also create some opportunities for Hoffpauir to get playing time in RF/1B), or we could sign Texiera (highly unlikely), or make a trade for a 1B Overbay, Huff? I also would wonder if there is any truth to the idea of picking up Harden's option and then trading him what about a Harden for Cano package?

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Considering the Jason Giambi era for the Yankees is at an end, I wonder what hed be worth to them.

 

What about a Lee for Cano package? Cano or Derosa could be moved to 1B and the other plays 2B(This could also create some opportunities for Hoffpauir to get playing time in RF/1B), or we could sign Texiera (highly unlikely), or make a trade for a 1B Overbay, Huff? I also would wonder if there is any truth to the idea of picking up Harden's option and then trading him what about a Harden for Cano package?

 

We already have a couple second basemen who are better than Cano. He's over hyped by the NY media just like Jeter has been forever. I want nothing to do with him. I don't know that there is anything the Yankees have I'd be interested in other than their young arms. Anybody with better MiL knowledge have suggestions?

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Considering the Jason Giambi era for the Yankees is at an end, I wonder what hed be worth to them.

 

What about a Lee for Cano package? Cano or Derosa could be moved to 1B and the other plays 2B(This could also create some opportunities for Hoffpauir to get playing time in RF/1B), or we could sign Texiera (highly unlikely), or make a trade for a 1B Overbay, Huff? I also would wonder if there is any truth to the idea of picking up Harden's option and then trading him what about a Harden for Cano package?

Please tell me you're joking.

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The Yankees #1 priority this offseason has to be Teixeira.
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Lee + Mitch Atkins + cash for Cain?

 

I'd do it.

 

I'd do it and not think twice.

 

I think it would require a little bit more than that, however.

 

I'd use the money saved from dealing Lee and the money saved from not resigning Dempster (or trading Marquis and signing Dempster to a hometown discount) and use it on Mark Teixiera.

 

Teixiera/Cain >>>>> Lee/Dempster

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Let me start with this very telling quote:

The only thing "on the house" is the roof, Harry. - Steve Stone

 

Therin lies the difference between the two's personalities because I'm sure Harry never had a problem getting things on the house.

 

Good ole Stoney, last year at this time he had all his perrotheads that prowl in these message boards convinced that Arizona was simply on a different plateau than the helpless Cubs. They had too much talent for the Cubs, thus the sweep. Nowhere in there was noticed that one team had a couple of key hits and the other had none.

 

Now the new party line is that the Cubs are too right handed and thus they become beatable by good RH pitching. Wow, stunning, that good RH pitching can beat the Cubs in a short series. They better overhaul the entire organization because no one else in baseball is beatable against good RH pitching!

 

I wonder how a team with a offense that outscored everyone in their league (and most of their league by a large margin) and pitching to be good enough to be a very close second in era, have so much trouble against RH pitching. Must have faced all lefties during the reg season.

 

However, that is not to say that Cubs are simply snakebit. There are issues and they have little to do with "too RH" and more to do with performance. I'll take a RH combo of Lee, Aram, Soto (funny how no one is calling him out) and Soriano as long as they perform to their levels. Even remotely close to their levels would do.

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Let me start with this very telling quote:

The only thing "on the house" is the roof, Harry. - Steve Stone

 

Therin lies the difference between the two's personalities because I'm sure Harry never had a problem getting things on the house.

 

Good ole Stoney, last year at this time he had all his perrotheads that prowl in these message boards convinced that Arizona was simply on a different plateau than the helpless Cubs. They had too much talent for the Cubs, thus the sweep. Nowhere in there was noticed that one team had a couple of key hits and the other had none.

 

Now the new party line is that the Cubs are too right handed and thus they become beatable by good RH pitching. Wow, stunning, that good RH pitching can beat the Cubs in a short series. They better overhaul the entire organization because no one else in baseball is beatable against good RH pitching!

 

I wonder how a team with a offense that outscored everyone in their league (and most of their league by a large margin) and pitching to be good enough to be a very close second in era, have so much trouble against RH pitching. Must have faced all lefties during the reg season.

 

However, that is not to say that Cubs are simply snakebit. There are issues and they have little to do with "too RH" and more to do with performance. I'll take a RH combo of Lee, Aram, Soto (funny how no one is calling him out) and Soriano as long as they perform to their levels. Even remotely close to their levels would do.

 

I don't think people are suggesting to trade Lee just to trade him, or that trading him is necessary to winning a damn playoff game. Most people would just like to see him traded because one of the best 1B in the league just happens to be a FA. Not only is he better, but he's younger too.

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The Yankees #1 priority this offseason has to be Teixeira.

 

CC has to be up there too.

 

I'm very interested in moving Lee, especially if that means being able to go after someone like Tex or (to a much lesser extent) Dunn.

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If we are trading Lee just to get rid of him, I'd say the Giants are the best fit. Doesn't he live in SF? He could easily be convinced they have a bright future with their pitching, and they seem to like past their prime hitters.

 

Unless we can get an upgrade, I don't see the point in moving Lee just to move him. If we can get Tex, by all means trade him.

 

If they don't get Prince for Cain of course. I think Lee would accept a trade to a california team to be closer to his family and daughter. However, the Angels and Dodgers probably won't want him as they have Loney and if the Angels don't sign Tex they sound like they are pretty happy with Kendry Morales.

 

The A's might be a option along with the Giants

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Let me start with this very telling quote:

The only thing "on the house" is the roof, Harry. - Steve Stone

 

Therin lies the difference between the two's personalities because I'm sure Harry never had a problem getting things on the house.

 

Good ole Stoney, last year at this time he had all his perrotheads that prowl in these message boards convinced that Arizona was simply on a different plateau than the helpless Cubs. They had too much talent for the Cubs, thus the sweep. Nowhere in there was noticed that one team had a couple of key hits and the other had none.

 

Now the new party line is that the Cubs are too right handed and thus they become beatable by good RH pitching. Wow, stunning, that good RH pitching can beat the Cubs in a short series. They better overhaul the entire organization because no one else in baseball is beatable against good RH pitching!

 

I wonder how a team with a offense that outscored everyone in their league (and most of their league by a large margin) and pitching to be good enough to be a very close second in era, have so much trouble against RH pitching. Must have faced all lefties during the reg season.

 

However, that is not to say that Cubs are simply snakebit. There are issues and they have little to do with "too RH" and more to do with performance. I'll take a RH combo of Lee, Aram, Soto (funny how no one is calling him out) and Soriano as long as they perform to their levels. Even remotely close to their levels would do.

 

I don't think people are suggesting to trade Lee just to trade him, or that trading him is necessary to winning a damn playoff game. Most people would just like to see him traded because one of the best 1B in the league just happens to be a FA. Not only is he better, but he's younger too.

 

I was commenting on Stones quote which said nothing of adding Teixeria.

 

Two words for anyone even remotely hopeful that Teix is somehow in the Cubs plans - Scott Boras.

 

I have issues with Lee, have had them long before it was popular to express them, but he isn't a problem. He just isn't a big bat in the heart of the order. Placing Rammy at 3 and moving Lee to 5 to protect the mythical prototypical LH bat at #4 would be great. Problem is, that guy is not available. Now I duck and pray to avoid the eventual "what about Adam Dunn?"

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