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Id take Fred Lewis+a nice pitching prospect. The question is, would the Giants, who still have some rebuilding to do be willing to do it?

 

They have a huge hole at 1B and still have a bit of a veteran fetish. I think they'd be interested in Lee, but what they'd be willing to trade in order to acquire him is another matter altogether.

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Id take Fred Lewis+a nice pitching prospect. The question is, would the Giants, who still have some rebuilding to do be willing to do it?

 

They have a huge hole at 1B and still have a bit of a veteran fetish. I think they'd be interested in Lee, but what they'd be willing to trade in order to acquire him is another matter altogether.

 

Aside from Fred Lewis, according to the Giants website, they might consider moving Brian Wilson for a good bat. Problem is, I dont trust Biran Wilson. He seems like a Huston Street type 1 year wonder to me, and his stats werent all that good to begin with. a 4+ ERA for a closer is far less than impressive.

 

I could also see Sabean trying to unload Barry Zito and a big chunk of his contract off on us and Jim Hendry taking him up on the offer.

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Could Lee be sent to Baltimore once they lose out on Tex possibly? A deal involving Lee and Roberts as they main pieces would be interesting.....

 

Would he accept a trade to Baltimore?

We do know he doesn't like fans that boo. Do they boo in Baltimore?

 

We also know that Baltimore likes him as they nearly traded for him before we stepped in and stole him away.

The Cubs didn't steal him away. The owner wouldn't give him an extension so the deal fell through. Hendry was there to get sloppy seconds. It turned out to be a good trade for the Cubs but it wasn't exactly a steal.

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Could Lee be sent to Baltimore once they lose out on Tex possibly? A deal involving Lee and Roberts as they main pieces would be interesting.....

 

Would he accept a trade to Baltimore?

We do know he doesn't like fans that boo. Do they boo in Baltimore?

 

We also know that Baltimore likes him as they nearly traded for him before we stepped in and stole him away.

The Cubs didn't steal him away. The owner wouldn't give him an extension so the deal fell through. Hendry was there to get sloppy seconds. It turned out to be a good trade for the Cubs but it wasn't exactly a steal.

 

Considering the way Hee Seops career went, and how much Derrek Lee did for the Cubs the past 4 years, yeah, it was almost as much of a steel as the Ramirez trade.

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Could Lee be sent to Baltimore once they lose out on Tex possibly? A deal involving Lee and Roberts as they main pieces would be interesting.....

 

Would he accept a trade to Baltimore?

We do know he doesn't like fans that boo. Do they boo in Baltimore?

 

We also know that Baltimore likes him as they nearly traded for him before we stepped in and stole him away.

The Cubs didn't steal him away. The owner wouldn't give him an extension so the deal fell through. Hendry was there to get sloppy seconds. It turned out to be a good trade for the Cubs but it wasn't exactly a steal.

 

Considering the way Hee Seops career went, and how much Derrek Lee did for the Cubs the past 4 years, yeah, it was almost as much of a steel as the Ramirez trade.

Here's a tip:

 

Read the post before responding to it.

 

Lee wasn't stolen from Baltimore. The deal between the Marlins and the Orioles was dead before Hendry made his move. Lee wasn't stolen even if it was a good deal for the Cubs.

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Could Lee be sent to Baltimore once they lose out on Tex possibly? A deal involving Lee and Roberts as they main pieces would be interesting.....

 

Would he accept a trade to Baltimore?

We do know he doesn't like fans that boo. Do they boo in Baltimore?

 

We also know that Baltimore likes him as they nearly traded for him before we stepped in and stole him away.

The Cubs didn't steal him away. The owner wouldn't give him an extension so the deal fell through. Hendry was there to get sloppy seconds. It turned out to be a good trade for the Cubs but it wasn't exactly a steal.

 

Considering the way Hee Seops career went, and how much Derrek Lee did for the Cubs the past 4 years, yeah, it was almost as much of a steel as the Ramirez trade.

Here's a tip:

 

Read the post before responding to it.

 

Lee wasn't stolen from Baltimore. The deal between the Marlins and the Orioles was dead before Hendry made his move. Lee wasn't stolen even if it was a good deal for the Cubs.

 

Well it was a steel in the figuritive sense, just not the literal.

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Could Lee be sent to Baltimore once they lose out on Tex possibly? A deal involving Lee and Roberts as they main pieces would be interesting.....

 

Would he accept a trade to Baltimore?

We do know he doesn't like fans that boo. Do they boo in Baltimore?

 

We also know that Baltimore likes him as they nearly traded for him before we stepped in and stole him away.

The Cubs didn't steal him away. The owner wouldn't give him an extension so the deal fell through. Hendry was there to get sloppy seconds. It turned out to be a good trade for the Cubs but it wasn't exactly a steal.

 

Why would the deal fall through if Baltimore wouldn't give him an extention? It was the opposite. Baltimore WANTED to give him the extention and it was DLee who wasn't gung ho on one. DLee didn't have an NTC so he couldn't have nixed a deal because Baltimore wouldn't give him an extention. All he could do was tell Baltimore that he didn't want an extention and Baltimore wouldn't want to acquire him without guaranteeing he'd be around for a while.

 

However, my understanding was that the extention discussions were in progress, NOT dead when the Cubs swooped in and made an offer that the Marlins liked. The Marlins figured a bird in the hand, so they accepted it and the O's were left SOL. Although, I definitely could be wrong on that.

 

Either way, I meant that the Cubs stole DLee from the O's, not from the Marlins.

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what about adam dunn

 

Is it really weird that I actually KNOW the guy in your signature, and that he's actually a pastor?

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Ok, let's say that there is some truth to all of this. Then, let's say that the Cubs honour Lee's respects and would send him to a California team. We know that Hendry has a working relationship with Towers and they have done a fair amount of dealings together. The Cubs could then potentially package Lee with Theriot and pick up Greene and Headley. I am not one to get into the fantasy trading world, but this would be a trade that could help both teams. The Padres would get a marquee bat in the middle of the lineup along with a young short stop. The Cubs would get a guy that they have had interest in before along with a potential RF replacement who hits switch. I know that the Padres and everyone else is very high on Headley, but maybe his value has dropped a bit with his past season and it'd be nice to see the Cubs buy low on someone like this and make him into something. If he doesn't work out, let him spend more time in the minors and give Hoff a shot to play more. Anyway, this would be a step towards become more left handed, would open the door to building for the future, and would allow the Cubs to go after Dunn or Tex to play first. I know that this is all unlikely, but I think that this would be a potentially good move for both teams. I know that they have Gonzalez, but maybe they could work a third team in. I dunno, just trying to think of possibilities.
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I can't see it happening because he is viewed as the team leader.

 

I'd love to see him traded and see the Cubs go out and sign Tex.

 

Your second sentence is exactly what I want and your first post is exactly why it won't happen.

 

Seriously, if the Cubs can move Lee and have a legit shot at Tex, they'd be stupid not to pursue it.

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I can't see it happening because he is viewed as the team leader.

 

I'd love to see him traded and see the Cubs go out and sign Tex.

 

Your second sentence is exactly what I want and your first post is exactly why it won't happen.

 

Seriously, if the Cubs can move Lee and have a legit shot at Tex, they'd be stupid not to pursue it.

 

The thing is though we'd have to sign Tex first and then trade Lee so we'd obviously get less for him I'd think

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I can't see it happening because he is viewed as the team leader.

 

I'd love to see him traded and see the Cubs go out and sign Tex.

 

Your second sentence is exactly what I want and your first post is exactly why it won't happen.

 

Seriously, if the Cubs can move Lee and have a legit shot at Tex, they'd be stupid not to pursue it.

 

The thing is though we'd have to sign Tex first and then trade Lee so we'd obviously get less for him I'd think

 

Maybe. Personally, I'm not as concerned about the return we get for Lee as much as I am just unloading him (if we get Tex, that is).

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Ok, let's say that there is some truth to all of this. Then, let's say that the Cubs honour Lee's respects and would send him to a California team. We know that Hendry has a working relationship with Towers and they have done a fair amount of dealings together. The Cubs could then potentially package Lee with Theriot and pick up Greene and Headley. I am not one to get into the fantasy trading world, but this would be a trade that could help both teams. The Padres would get a marquee bat in the middle of the lineup along with a young short stop. The Cubs would get a guy that they have had interest in before along with a potential RF replacement who hits switch. I know that the Padres and everyone else is very high on Headley, but maybe his value has dropped a bit with his past season and it'd be nice to see the Cubs buy low on someone like this and make him into something. If he doesn't work out, let him spend more time in the minors and give Hoff a shot to play more. Anyway, this would be a step towards become more left handed, would open the door to building for the future, and would allow the Cubs to go after Dunn or Tex to play first. I know that this is all unlikely, but I think that this would be a potentially good move for both teams. I know that they have Gonzalez, but maybe they could work a third team in. I dunno, just trying to think of possibilities.

 

Not only do they have Adrian Gonzalez, as you mention, but they also have one hell of a 1B prospect named Kyle Blanks (.325/.404/.514 at AA as a 21 year old). Therefore, I don't see it happening. A third team would absolutely need to be worked in, and at that point there's really no point for SD to be involved.

 

Best chance is Lee to SF, OAK or possibly the Angels if they aren't content with Kendry Morales at 1B.

 

I would definitely pursue Lee and others for Matt Cain if at all possible.

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I can't see it happening because he is viewed as the team leader.

 

I'd love to see him traded and see the Cubs go out and sign Tex.

 

Your second sentence is exactly what I want and your first post is exactly why it won't happen.

 

Seriously, if the Cubs can move Lee and have a legit shot at Tex, they'd be stupid not to pursue it.

 

The thing is though we'd have to sign Tex first and then trade Lee so we'd obviously get less for him I'd think

 

Maybe. Personally, I'm not as concerned about the return we get for Lee as much as I am just unloading him (if we get Tex, that is).

 

Very true...I would love at least someone who can play RF, LF, CF, SS, or 2B that was left handed

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Ok, let's say that there is some truth to all of this. Then, let's say that the Cubs honour Lee's respects and would send him to a California team. We know that Hendry has a working relationship with Towers and they have done a fair amount of dealings together. The Cubs could then potentially package Lee with Theriot and pick up Greene and Headley. I am not one to get into the fantasy trading world, but this would be a trade that could help both teams. The Padres would get a marquee bat in the middle of the lineup along with a young short stop. The Cubs would get a guy that they have had interest in before along with a potential RF replacement who hits switch. I know that the Padres and everyone else is very high on Headley, but maybe his value has dropped a bit with his past season and it'd be nice to see the Cubs buy low on someone like this and make him into something. If he doesn't work out, let him spend more time in the minors and give Hoff a shot to play more. Anyway, this would be a step towards become more left handed, would open the door to building for the future, and would allow the Cubs to go after Dunn or Tex to play first. I know that this is all unlikely, but I think that this would be a potentially good move for both teams. I know that they have Gonzalez, but maybe they could work a third team in. I dunno, just trying to think of possibilities.

 

Not only do they have Adrian Gonzalez, as you mention, but they also have one hell of a 1B prospect named Kyle Blanks (.325/.404/.514 at AA as a 21 year old). Therefore, I don't see it happening. A third team would absolutely need to be worked in, and at that point there's really no point for SD to be involved.

 

Best chance is Lee to SF, OAK or possibly the Angels if they aren't content with Kendry Morales at 1B.

 

I would definitely pursue Lee and others for Matt Cain if at all possible.

 

Annaheim is an interesting possibility. They have plenty of talent, but a lot of it is over the hill. I doubt theyd be willing to move one of their top pitchers, and guys like Rivera and Anderson are over the hill. Id take Vlad, but I cant see them moving him. Hendry has had an eye out for Chone Figgins for a while, but hes never interested me much.

 

As for Matt Cain, we can forget about him. The Giants have deemed him untouchable, as they should. Granted, if The Brewers offered them Fielder and Hardy, it would be hard for them to ignore it, but we dont have anything close to offer, considering we dont have a Gamel and an Escobar waiting to take their place.

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Ok, let's say that there is some truth to all of this. Then, let's say that the Cubs honour Lee's respects and would send him to a California team. We know that Hendry has a working relationship with Towers and they have done a fair amount of dealings together. The Cubs could then potentially package Lee with Theriot and pick up Greene and Headley. I am not one to get into the fantasy trading world, but this would be a trade that could help both teams. The Padres would get a marquee bat in the middle of the lineup along with a young short stop. The Cubs would get a guy that they have had interest in before along with a potential RF replacement who hits switch. I know that the Padres and everyone else is very high on Headley, but maybe his value has dropped a bit with his past season and it'd be nice to see the Cubs buy low on someone like this and make him into something. If he doesn't work out, let him spend more time in the minors and give Hoff a shot to play more. Anyway, this would be a step towards become more left handed, would open the door to building for the future, and would allow the Cubs to go after Dunn or Tex to play first. I know that this is all unlikely, but I think that this would be a potentially good move for both teams. I know that they have Gonzalez, but maybe they could work a third team in. I dunno, just trying to think of possibilities.

 

Not only do they have Adrian Gonzalez, as you mention, but they also have one hell of a 1B prospect named Kyle Blanks (.325/.404/.514 at AA as a 21 year old). Therefore, I don't see it happening. A third team would absolutely need to be worked in, and at that point there's really no point for SD to be involved.

 

Best chance is Lee to SF, OAK or possibly the Angels if they aren't content with Kendry Morales at 1B.

 

I would definitely pursue Lee and others for Matt Cain if at all possible.

 

Annaheim is an interesting possibility. They have plenty of talent, but a lot of it is over the hill. I doubt theyd be willing to move one of their top pitchers, and guys like Rivera and Anderson are over the hill. Id take Vlad, but I cant see them moving him. Hendry has had an eye out for Chone Figgins for a while, but hes never interested me much.

 

As for Matt Cain, we can forget about him. The Giants have deemed him untouchable, as they should. Granted, if The Brewers offered them Fielder and Hardy, it would be hard for them to ignore it, but we dont have anything close to offer, considering we dont have a Gamel and an Escobar waiting to take their place.

 

I wouldn't mind a Lee for Figgins and the signing of Tex. Like I said though the signing would have to come first and then Anaheim would give up less to Lee since they knew we didn't need him

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Derrek Lee for Chone Figgins would be a horrible trade for the Cubs.
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I can't see it happening because he is viewed as the team leader.

 

I'd love to see him traded and see the Cubs go out and sign Tex.

 

Your second sentence is exactly what I want and your first post is exactly why it won't happen.

 

Seriously, if the Cubs can move Lee and have a legit shot at Tex, they'd be stupid not to pursue it.

 

Who views him as the team leader? I know some fans do, but does Hendry, Lou, others in management? Maybe he's different in the clubhouse than what we see and read, but he doesn't seem to be the leader of the team in my opinion. He doesn't even strike me as the quiet, lead by example type.

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This is still being discussed? WTH?

 

How many more years does Lee have on his current deal? 1 year? Who is going to give up decent value for a guy with 1 year left on his contract?

 

Why would Lee give up his NTC to go to San Francisco?

 

The simple fact that you have to get someone like Tex before you even consider packaging Lee makes this even more unrealistic.

 

Sign Tex, move Soriano to RF and put Tex in LF while Lee plays out his contract. However, I'm not convinced that the Cubs will be the top bidders for Tex's services.

 

I'd expect to see a trade for a lefty bat, one that likely won't involve Lee.

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DLee for Brian Roberts.

 

Sign Tex.

 

DeRo becomes a plattoon in right with Kosuke

 

Fontenot takes 10,000,000 plays at short and we sell Theriot for a CF.

 

Never happening.

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Derrek Lee for Chone Figgins would be a horrible trade for the Cubs.

 

Why? you get a guy with speed and who's a switch hitter at the top of the lineup making it able to bat him 1 or 2. Also if you read the rest of my post I said if we signed Tex first which ad another switch hitter in the line-up, but a better power hitter. Your telling me if we made those two moves you wouldn't want a

 

Theriot

Figgins playing 2nd

Soriano

Texeria

Ramirez

Soto

Derosa playing RF

Fukudome playing CF

 

and this by only give up Lee?

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Derrek Lee for Chone Figgins would be a horrible trade for the Cubs.

 

Why?

because Chone Figgins is not particularly good at playing baseball

Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP

2008 30 LAA AL 116 453 72 125 14 1 1 22 34 13 62 80 .276 .367 .318 84 144 2 0 3 3 7

 

I'd take those numbers as a 2 hitter in our line-up...you guys have to remember were probably not going to get anything to spectacular for D-Lee and his huge contract

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