Jake Peavy: Available.

[17 Seconds]

:(

 

God dangit. I knew it was too good to be true.

 

Yes, I know it's probably speculation, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

 

That's all I'm saying. Things/rumors could still change in an instant...I just don't like the way it looksl ike things are heading.

[Jehrico]

Yes, this guy absolutely knows more than everyone else.

 

Or it's just more rumors and we'll have to see.

 

Well it's going right along with what Olney just said.

And Olney's track record should tell you he's wrong, so what does that say about Churchills info?

 

I suspect that you're only saying Olney's track record is bad because you don't like what he's saying. The reality is that most of these guys are wrong a lot because they predict so many things and write so many articles. When multiple people are hearing the same thing (and I highly doub Churchill is piggy backing Olney) that's when I tend to start paying attention.

You can believe what you want about this Churchill guy, I don't really care, but don't act like he's just blwing smoke up my ass for no reason. He's been right in the past so he's not making it up. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong. Thease guys are wrong all the time.

I wasn't acting like he was blowing smoke up your 4th point of contact for no reason. You were acting like Olney's report had any significance on the note you got, and it didn't, which is all I was saying. You're being waaay to sensitive. Don't get mad just because we don't want to put too much stock into your source at this time on this one issue.

 

my "source"? He's a guy with a website who I e-mail sometimes. You could do the same. I never said he's right, all I said is that he's not making it up. You were the one who proclaimed that Olney was surely wrong. I never said anybody was surely right. Neither of us know for sure what's up.. you're the opnly one that claimed you did.

Did you even bother reading the post you just replied to?

[cubsfan26]

I would take Churchill comments as a grain of salt, and wouldn't pay any more attention to it then the guys who said the Cubs were now the favorites for Peavy last week. Churchill is a Mariners guy, and did scoop the Bedard trade pretty well last year. But I also remember him saying the Roberts trade will happen any day, and it never did. So lets just see what happens, but I wouldn't get worked up about this report, or take it really seriously.

[17 Seconds]

I would take Churchill comments as a grain of salt, and wouldn't pay any more attention to it then the guys who said the Cubs were now the favorites for Peavy last week. Churchill is a Mariners guy, and did scoop the Bedard trade pretty well last year. But I also remember him saying the Roberts trade will happen any day, and it never did. So lets just see what happens, but I wouldn't get worked up about this report, or take it really seriously.

 

Well everybody thought the Roberts trade would go down...even Roberts was told. You're right though, this should all be taken lightly because things always change.

[Sosa21MVP]

ok, im a little lost because half the posts the last couple pages are on ignore...deals not gonna happen now?

 

lol, me too

[17 Seconds]

Yes, this guy absolutely knows more than everyone else.

 

Or it's just more rumors and we'll have to see.

 

Well it's going right along with what Olney just said.

And Olney's track record should tell you he's wrong, so what does that say about Churchills info?

 

I suspect that you're only saying Olney's track record is bad because you don't like what he's saying. The reality is that most of these guys are wrong a lot because they predict so many things and write so many articles. When multiple people are hearing the same thing (and I highly doub Churchill is piggy backing Olney) that's when I tend to start paying attention.

You can believe what you want about this Churchill guy, I don't really care, but don't act like he's just blwing smoke up my ass for no reason. He's been right in the past so he's not making it up. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong. Thease guys are wrong all the time.

I wasn't acting like he was blowing smoke up your 4th point of contact for no reason. You were acting like Olney's report had any significance on the note you got, and it didn't, which is all I was saying. You're being waaay to sensitive. Don't get mad just because we don't want to put too much stock into your source at this time on this one issue.

 

my "source"? He's a guy with a website who I e-mail sometimes. You could do the same. I never said he's right, all I said is that he's not making it up. You were the one who proclaimed that Olney was surely wrong. I never said anybody was surely right. Neither of us know for sure what's up.. you're the opnly one that claimed you did.

Did you even bother reading the post you just replied to?

 

Umm, yeah... that's why everything I said related to it. Apparently you didn't. Whatever, I don't care.

[Dallas Green]

I would take Churchill comments as a grain of salt, and wouldn't pay any more attention to it then the guys who said the Cubs were now the favorites for Peavy last week. Churchill is a Mariners guy, and did scoop the Bedard trade pretty well last year. But I also remember him saying the Roberts trade will happen any day, and it never did. So lets just see what happens, but I wouldn't get worked up about this report, or take it really seriously.

 

Well everybody thought the Roberts trade would go down...even Roberts was told. You're right though, this should all be taken lightly because things always change.

 

Yeah, no one should be held accountable for the Roberts fiasco. That deal was done, and done, and done again.

[17 Seconds]

I would take Churchill comments as a grain of salt, and wouldn't pay any more attention to it then the guys who said the Cubs were now the favorites for Peavy last week. Churchill is a Mariners guy, and did scoop the Bedard trade pretty well last year. But I also remember him saying the Roberts trade will happen any day, and it never did. So lets just see what happens, but I wouldn't get worked up about this report, or take it really seriously.

 

Well everybody thought the Roberts trade would go down...even Roberts was told. You're right though, this should all be taken lightly because things always change.

 

Yeah, no one should be held accountable for the Roberts fiasco. That deal was done, and done, and done again.

 

Well, I think there is one guy hwo should be held accountable. Of course MacPhail will deny that though

[mcgoobs]

:(

 

God dangit. I knew it was too good to be true.

 

Yes, I know it's probably speculation, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

 

Combining that logic with last year's thread, we should have signed Brian Robert's 8000 times.

[David]

:(

 

God dangit. I knew it was too good to be true.

 

Yes, I know it's probably speculation, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

 

Combining that logic with last year's thread, we should have signed Brian Robert's 8000 times.

 

Considering the fact that Roberts himself said that he was told he was on his way to Chicago at one point (by his agent, I believe), I am pretty sure there was fire.

 

Not to mention the fact that the Cubs were trying to adjust their lineup at the end of spring training for Roberts's "imminent" arrival.

[RammyFanny]

:(

 

God dangit. I knew it was too good to be true.

 

Yes, I know it's probably speculation, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

 

Combining that logic with last year's thread, we should have signed Brian Robert's 8000 times.

 

Considering the fact that Roberts himself said that he was told he was on his way to Chicago at one point (by his agent, I believe), I am pretty sure there was fire.

 

Not to mention the fact that the Cubs were trying to adjust their lineup at the end of spring training for Roberts's "imminent" arrival.

No, I am pretty sure that was all BigBird or Peace or Belkast or someone. Roberts agent was the one to come out with the quote: "If Brian Roberts has been traded to Chicago, this is the first we've heard of it".

 

Not saying there wasn't any smoke though.

[David]

I really don't feel like going back to find any quotes, but I am almost positive that when the Orioles visited the Cubs in June, Roberts himself said that, at one point, he thought he was traded here (or something to that effect).

[17 Seconds]

:(

 

God dangit. I knew it was too good to be true.

 

Yes, I know it's probably speculation, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

 

Combining that logic with last year's thread, we should have signed Brian Robert's 8000 times.

 

Brian Roberts was a free agent last offseason?

[17 Seconds]

:(

 

God dangit. I knew it was too good to be true.

 

Yes, I know it's probably speculation, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

 

Combining that logic with last year's thread, we should have signed Brian Robert's 8000 times.

 

Considering the fact that Roberts himself said that he was told he was on his way to Chicago at one point (by his agent, I believe), I am pretty sure there was fire.

 

Not to mention the fact that the Cubs were trying to adjust their lineup at the end of spring training for Roberts's "imminent" arrival.

No, I am pretty sure that was all BigBird or Peace or Belkast or someone. Roberts agent was the one to come out with the quote: "If Brian Roberts has been traded to Chicago, this is the first we've heard of it".

 

Not saying there wasn't any smoke though.

 

No, Roberts definitely said it later on sometime during the season.

[RammyFanny]

Folks, barring some surprising late push from a team that simply overwhelms the Padres with a new offer, it’s going to be the Braves or Cubs who land the 2007 Cy Young Award winner. And since the few other teams Peavy would agree to be traded to seemingly don’t have the package of prospects that they are willing to part with and would satisfy what Padres GM Kevin Towers is looking for, I’m fairly certain it’ll be the Braves or Cubs.

 

And since the various possible offers from the Cubs that have been reported thus far seem to fall short of the Braves’ likely offer of Yunel Escobar, Gorkys Hernandez or Jordan Schafer, and one or two pitching prospects from a group that might include Charlie Morton, Jo-Jo Reyes, or one of the younger guys (not named Hanson), I’m still of the belief that the Braves are favored over the Cubs to get Peavy.

 

But I also know that some others think the Cubs moved ahead, for whatever reason. So we’ll see. I do think it’ll happen well before the December 7-11 Winter Meetings in Vegas, and probably before Thanksgiving. But whether it’ll be in the next week, I’m not as certain. But there’s a decent chance.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2008/11/09/rejuvenated_as.html

 

This is the guy who's story prompted the whole "Gorkys is included stuff", and everyone seems to have ran with that, so it's nice to see he gives the Cubs a fighting chance still.

[manbearcub]

It has already gone from "Before Monday" to "Before Thanksgiving" to now "Before the winter meetings". This is gonna be fun.

[RammyFanny]

It has already gone from "Before Monday" to "Before Thanksgiving" to now "Before the winter meetings". This is gonna be fun.

It actually started out with "before winter meetings" and then got closer as talks got heavier. This guy also says "probably before thanksgiving", so I don't think nothing has changed from what he's heard.

[David]

It has already gone from "Before Monday" to "Before Thanksgiving" to now "Before the winter meetings". This is gonna be fun.

 

Different people said each, though.

[CubmanPi]

I'll be shocked if this trade is either done or unequivocally removed from the table before PCR. I'll check back in 200 pages.

[dew1679666265]

Apparently the only teams in the running now are the Braves, Cubs, and Dodgers. No other teams will be considered. A deal to the Braves is supposedly close, with Yunel Escobar and prospects going to the Pads.

 

I'd be surprised if the deal actually includes Yunel because Peavy said he'd reject any deal with Yunel.

 

He didn't say that. His agent used it as a hypothetical, and then had to clarify when everyone ran with the "Peavy won't accept a deal where the Braves lose Escobar" story.

 

Good point, I missed the agent's clarification.

 

Even still, there's some thought along those lines out there with Peavy. If nothing else, it lessens the chance that Yunel is dealt - and thus, heightens our chances of getting Peavy.

[cubs121]

I'll be shocked if this trade is either done or unequivocally removed from the table before PCR. I'll check back in 200 pages.

Same here, I'll also check back some 200 pages later.

[haubrich91]

Let's go Hendry. I don't want us to get this close and come out empty handed (twice in the span of a month)

 

[jiml60]

I just read that were preparing 2 offers with 1 containing Vitters and 1 containing Samardzija..

 

If this doesn't get done, I'm gonna be sooo pissed.

 

Chicago Cubs, breaking hearts since 1908..

 

Why would this be the Cubs breaking our hearts? All that Hendry can do is put up the best offer he can and it's up to Towers to decide. Not exactly like Dempster crapping the bed in Game 1.

[riseinside]

Take anything Churchill says with a grain of salt. Us M's fans have learned that much of what he says is far from "credible".

[Little Slide Rooter]

It has already gone from "Before Monday" to "Before Thanksgiving" to now "Before the winter meetings". This is gonna be fun.

 

Different people said each, though.

 

Before Monday, before Thanksgiving, before the end of the winter meetings, before new years, before spring training, before opening day, a deal is still in the works, before the july non waiver trade deadline...weve been there before.

 

Seriously, this things like a horse race. 1 minute the Cubds are ahead, one minute the Braves, and it keeps switching, and it propbably will continue that way until hes moved, whenever that happens.

 

And as far as a Peavy demanding a deal that doesnt take the Braves out of contention next year, then it will have to be one that somehow makes the Phillies and Mets not significantly better than the Braves.

 

However, if we dont get Peavy, I have a very strong feeling that we'll end up with almost the exact same team as last year, minus Ward, Edmonds, and Howry, being replaced with Hoffpauir, Pie, and Wuertz