Re: 6/25: Orioles (Burres) vs Cubs (Lilly) 7:05pm CSN

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Tigers/Cards back on

[mul21]

Where's Geo from? His English is pretty good.

 

Puerto Rico, maybe?

[CubsBears29]

That was a great 8/9 combo outing from Marmol [had control back and his slider was filthy] & Wood [was hitting 98 on the gun].

 

One of the best combo-innings of the year for the pair.

[third eye]

Woody the best reliever in the bigs?

Not even the best on our team.

Kerry has Marmol by 26 ERA+ Points, I'd def. give the nod to him.

 

Plus his 46/8 K:BB :shock:

[weis21]

Woody the best reliever in the bigs?

Not even the best on our team.

Kerry has Marmol by 26 ERA+ Points, I'd def. give the nod to him.

 

Plus his 46/8 K:BB :shock:

 

They both have whips <1.0, so I'll take either.

Very true, nice problem to have.

 

How about "best 2 relievers in baseball"?

[weis21]

Woody the best reliever in the bigs?

Not even the best on our team.

Kerry has Marmol by 26 ERA+ Points, I'd def. give the nod to him.

 

Plus his 49/8 K:BB :shock:

Sorry, fixed for tonights performance.

[chuckywang]

Where's Geo from? His English is pretty good.

 

With a last name of Soto, my guess is Puerto Rico.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Thats fine, Fontenot still seems to be taking the place of the useless light hitting stupid middle infielder. Its nice to only have one instead of several, but still, how about none?

 

not realistic. if you're going to have a backup middle infielder, he's almost certain to be a lousy hitter. take a look around baseball and see how many teams have a solid hitter who can come off the bench and play shortstop. if the guy can hit and play SS/2B, he's already starting.

 

When did we get rid of Cedeno?

[OleMissCub]

wood is the first cubs closer in a long time that i feel confident in every single night.

 

maybe ever.

 

Mel Rojas for me

[Little Slide Rooter]

Where's Geo from? His English is pretty good.

 

Puerto Rico, maybe?

 

Puerto Rico is correct.

[inari]

Where's Geo from? His English is pretty good.

 

With a last name of Soto, my guess is Puerto Rico.

 

You're right. He's from San Juan.

 

As someone who has never been there, do a lot of people speak English? He really doesn't sound like he is anything but completely fluent.

[cubweiser03]

Wood is great this year but Rivera is freaking sick. His #s are joke.

Wood with like a 38IP/8BB. Yeah i cant believe thats kerry wood baby!

[illiniguy]

I wonder if Prior should try to do what Wood is? Or is it too late for that even?

[BigSlick]

Thats fine, Fontenot still seems to be taking the place of the useless light hitting stupid middle infielder. Its nice to only have one instead of several, but still, how about none?

 

not realistic. if you're going to have a backup middle infielder, he's almost certain to be a lousy hitter. take a look around baseball and see how many teams have a solid hitter who can come off the bench and play shortstop. if the guy can hit and play SS/2B, he's already starting.

this is the truth, as frustrating as it may be.

 

the thing is we have enough freakin back up middle infielders, and we got a couple nice lefty back ups now so we can afford to throw fontenot out the door.

[TruffleShuffle]

wood is the first cubs closer in a long time that i feel confident in every single night.

 

maybe ever.

 

Mel Rojas for me

 

mitch williams in '89, no doubt about it

[FergieJ31]

wood is the first cubs closer in a long time that i feel confident in every single night.

 

maybe ever.

 

Mel Rojas for me

 

Ahh the Mel Rojas era ... good times.

 

Smitty's 1983 is pretty hard to beat.

[CoolHandLuke]

Where's Geo from? His English is pretty good.

 

Puerto Rico I believe.

[third eye]

wood is the first cubs closer in a long time that i feel confident in every single night.

 

maybe ever.

 

Mel Rojas for me

 

mitch williams in '89, no doubt about it

 

Rick Aguillera in 99? Seriously, though, I always felt pretty good with Randy Myers in there in the early-mid 90s (clearly not as good as Wood now, though).

Edited June 26, 2008 by third eye

[CubColtPacer]

Thats fine, Fontenot still seems to be taking the place of the useless light hitting stupid middle infielder. Its nice to only have one instead of several, but still, how about none?

 

not realistic. if you're going to have a backup middle infielder, he's almost certain to be a lousy hitter. take a look around baseball and see how many teams have a solid hitter who can come off the bench and play shortstop. if the guy can hit and play SS/2B, he's already starting.

 

When did we get rid of Cedeno?

 

Teams rarely carry just one backup middle infielder. It leaves you too handcuffed in the people you can pinch-hit for, double switches, injuries, etc.

 

Now the fact that Patterson is up and could switch to 2nd base if need be is a decent argument. It seems like the Cubs don't want to do that unless they absolutely need to through.

 

But even if you said that Hoffpauir was definitely a better hitter than Fontenot, when is he going to play? They don't seem to trust him in the OF. He's not going to get many pinch-hitting appearances because he's both behind Ward on the depth chart for LH pinch-hitters, and the Cubs won't send him up there to bat against a left-hander. He'll come up, and he'll just sit on the bench and likely get burned in a 2 pinch-hitter move as often as he actually gets an at-bat. It's a bad use of resources.

[CubsNSkers07]

And we don't need three first basemen either.

 

The difference is that Hoffpauir has played lf and rf hasn't he? Daryle Ward although is a liability has played RF as well. I guess Fontenot has possibly played SS as well but I'm not sure.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Thats fine, Fontenot still seems to be taking the place of the useless light hitting stupid middle infielder. Its nice to only have one instead of several, but still, how about none?

 

not realistic. if you're going to have a backup middle infielder, he's almost certain to be a lousy hitter. take a look around baseball and see how many teams have a solid hitter who can come off the bench and play shortstop. if the guy can hit and play SS/2B, he's already starting.

 

When did we get rid of Cedeno?

 

Teams rarely carry just one backup middle infielder. It leaves you too handcuffed in the people you can pinch-hit for, double switches, injuries, etc.

 

Now the fact that Patterson is up and could switch to 2nd base if need be is a decent argument. It seems like the Cubs don't want to do that unless they absolutely need to through.

 

But even if you said that Hoffpauir was definitely a better hitter than Fontenot, when is he going to play? They don't seem to trust him in the OF. He's not going to get many pinch-hitting appearances because he's both behind Ward on the depth chart for LH pinch-hitters, and the Cubs won't send him up there to bat against a left-hander. He'll come up, and he'll just sit on the bench and likely get burned in a 2 pinch-hitter move as often as he actually gets an at-bat. It's a bad use of resources.

 

So you bring him up, stash Patterson or Murton in the minors and give as many opportunities as we can. Hopefully, he comes through, and can gain some trade value.

[CoolHandLuke]

wood is the first cubs closer in a long time that i feel confident in every single night.

 

maybe ever.

 

Mel Rojas for me

 

haha

[David]

I know I'm late, but wow... SHAM CLOSER (I had to pause the game for a few minutes)

[CubColtPacer]

I wonder if Prior should try to do what Wood is? Or is it too late for that even?

 

It's a completely different issue. Prior can't get his arm to rehab to the point where he's both feeling no pain and getting the same velocity on his pitches. Wood would always rehab ok, but then after the 60 pitch mark he would start feeling pain again. For Wood, the bullpen was a natural way to avoid putting that many pitches on his arm in any one night, which greatly reduces the risk of injury for him.

With Prior, he needs to be able to find his velocity first without pain before he can even think about how he can try to preserve it, and he hasn't really had his good stuff since 2005. If he ever does find it again though, I don't think starting will put any more stress on his arm issue then the bullpen would.

Edited June 26, 2008 by CubColtPacer

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

And we don't need three first basemen either.

 

The difference is that Hoffpauir has played lf and rf hasn't he? Daryle Ward although is a liability has played RF as well. I guess Fontenot has possibly played SS as well but I'm not sure.

 

Hoffpauir: OF: Fontenot:SS

 

Neither need to be there unless it's an emergency.