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still the best record in baseball. Maybe Carlos gets some rest, marshall proves his worth and they're a step closer.

 

Honestly, this team can afford a bad stretch and still be "in it".

 

The only way this is really bad is if it requires surgery. Even then he's one player (albeit the best) on a team full of good players.

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I'm not sure if this means something less ordinary is going on...

 

He was initially set to have an MRI exam Thursday, but the Cubs decided to instead schedule an MRI arthrogram, a test in which dye is injected into the problem area to provide a more detailed look.

 

"To provide a more detailed look" does not at all sound encouraging to me.

 

I am comforting/deluding myself now by saying they need the detail to find something as there wasn't an obvious diagnosis just from an external exam.

 

My prediction is the diagnosis is shoulder tendonitis and the Cubs cancel his captainstabbin.com account.

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still the best record in baseball. Maybe Carlos gets some rest, marshall proves his worth and they're a step closer.

 

Honestly, this team can afford a bad stretch and still be "in it".

 

The only way this is really bad is if it requires surgery. Even then he's one player (albeit the best) on a team full of good players.

 

Our GM may not have any idea how to put together a team for the future, but he knows how to build for the now, and he genuinely wants to win this thing this year.

 

If Zambrano does end up needing to miss any amount of time, he'll be on the horn with Oakland, Toronot, Cleveland etc. by this afternoon. Granted, Zambrano is irreplaceable, but even with a Harden, Blanton, or Burnett filling his spot, wed still have the best pitching staff in the division by a long shot.

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i am going to go ahead and say that i expect him to miss a few starts

 

i have my puppies and cats saying prayers for Z

 

and i have consulted Jobu

 

i am thinking of sacrificing a chicken too

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He'll miss two starts.

 

At worst he'll have a season ending surgery, and then he'll be our new closer next year, while Wood moves back into the rotation.

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A bit of research reveals that MRA (vs. MRI) is more sensitive for the diagnosis of labrum and rotator cuff injury. (Thanks to Will Carroll for confirming the sensitivity question.) Hopefully this is just extreme caution, but you wonder if the exam revealed something more likely to involve the above issues rather than something like tendonitis.

 

Not to say I told you so, because I pray I'm wrong, but...

 

Reports have Zambrano taking a Magnetic Resonance Arthrogram today, rather than the expected MRI. Arthrograms are a common imaging used to visualize soft tissue, such as the labrum, bicipital tendon, and the rotator cuff. Knowing what the test will be suggests what the doctors are looking for. It's clear that Zambrano will miss at least one start. I'm setting his DXL at 15 because of the expectation of a DL stint, but I don't know yet how long he will be out, and yes, that injury cost seems low.
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If Z's out for the season, it doesn't even seem worth watching anymore.

 

 

But you know you will.

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A bit of research reveals that MRA (vs. MRI) is more sensitive for the diagnosis of labrum and rotator cuff injury. (Thanks to Will Carroll for confirming the sensitivity question.) Hopefully this is just extreme caution, but you wonder if the exam revealed something more likely to involve the above issues rather than something like tendonitis.

 

Not to say I told you so, because I pray I'm wrong, but...

 

Reports have Zambrano taking a Magnetic Resonance Arthrogram today, rather than the expected MRI. Arthrograms are a common imaging used to visualize soft tissue, such as the labrum, bicipital tendon, and the rotator cuff. Knowing what the test will be suggests what the doctors are looking for. It's clear that Zambrano will miss at least one start. I'm setting his DXL at 15 because of the expectation of a DL stint, but I don't know yet how long he will be out, and yes, that injury cost seems low.

 

Dude, stop posting. You are bumming me out!

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Did anybody else notice earlier in the game Z threw a pitch that was clocked at 70 and then kind of gave a little smirk. Could it be possible that the injury occurred then and he just pitched through it? I'm pretty sure it was before he gave up the four runs.
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Did anybody else notice earlier in the game Z threw a pitch that was clocked at 70 and then kind of gave a little smirk. Could it be possible that the injury occurred then and he just pitched through it? I'm pretty sure it was before he gave up the four runs.

 

I wasn't watching the game last night, but I've seen Z on rare occasions pull out a super slow changeup on hitters(one particularly vivid memory of him getting the 3rd out on a K by that pitch). It could've been that.

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Marshall certainly made me feel a little better with his performance last night

 

Too bad hes never done anything at the major league level to prove hes worthy of sniffing Zs jock strap.

That 3.92 ERA in 2007 should've gotten him optioned well before he could do that much damage.

 

I really don't get the anxiety over the arthrogram. It's the logical decision. Is there any reason not to do it now that they've already decided he won't make his next scheduled start? If they still wanted him to make his next start, which would seem unnecessary, then the injected dye would be an issue. But as it is, why not do the most comprehensive testing?

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Marshall certainly made me feel a little better with his performance last night

 

Too bad hes never done anything at the major league level to prove hes worthy of sniffing Zs jock strap.

 

ok, then who would you like to replace zambrano with?

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Marshall certainly made me feel a little better with his performance last night

 

Too bad hes never done anything at the major league level to prove hes worthy of sniffing Zs jock strap.

 

ok, then who would you like to replace zambrano with?

 

CC dammit!

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Marshall certainly made me feel a little better with his performance last night

 

Too bad hes never done anything at the major league level to prove hes worthy of sniffing Zs jock strap.

That 3.92 ERA in 2007 should've gotten him optioned well before he could do that much damage.

 

I really don't get the anxiety over the arthrogram. It's the logical decision. Is there any reason not to do it now that they've already decided he won't make his next scheduled start? If they still wanted him to make his next start, which would seem unnecessary, then the injected dye would be an issue. But as it is, why not do the most comprehensive testing?

 

Were Cubs fans,

 

And I dont know if you were being sarcastic about the 3.92 ERA, but if we werre talking about replacing Marquis, that would be fine, but this is our ace were talking about. A guy who has spent the last 3 years up and down and bveen inconsistant isnt going to replace that.

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If Z's out for the season, it doesn't even seem worth watching anymore.

I don't feel this way at all

 

We are 10-6 in games that Zambrano started- good for a .625 winning percentage

We are 35-22 in games not started by Zambrano- good for a .614 winning percentage

 

A .614 winning percentage is still good for #1 in MLB

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A bit of research reveals that MRA (vs. MRI) is more sensitive for the diagnosis of labrum and rotator cuff injury. (Thanks to Will Carroll for confirming the sensitivity question.) Hopefully this is just extreme caution, but you wonder if the exam revealed something more likely to involve the above issues rather than something like tendonitis.

 

Not to say I told you so, because I pray I'm wrong, but...

 

Reports have Zambrano taking a Magnetic Resonance Arthrogram today, rather than the expected MRI. Arthrograms are a common imaging used to visualize soft tissue, such as the labrum, bicipital tendon, and the rotator cuff. Knowing what the test will be suggests what the doctors are looking for. It's clear that Zambrano will miss at least one start. I'm setting his DXL at 15 because of the expectation of a DL stint, but I don't know yet how long he will be out, and yes, that injury cost seems low.

 

Dude, stop posting. You are bumming me out!

 

What is DXL, and is 15 a good one or bad one?

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If Z's out for the season, it doesn't even seem worth watching anymore.

I don't feel this way at all

 

We are 10-6 in games that Zambrano started- good for a .625 winning percentage

We are 35-22 in games not started by Zambrano- good for a .614 winning percentage

 

A .614 winning percentage is still good for #1 in MLB

 

Luckily the Cubs have had Gallagher quietly shore up the #5 spot in the rotation.

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A bit of research reveals that MRA (vs. MRI) is more sensitive for the diagnosis of labrum and rotator cuff injury. (Thanks to Will Carroll for confirming the sensitivity question.) Hopefully this is just extreme caution, but you wonder if the exam revealed something more likely to involve the above issues rather than something like tendonitis.

 

Not to say I told you so, because I pray I'm wrong, but...

 

Reports have Zambrano taking a Magnetic Resonance Arthrogram today, rather than the expected MRI. Arthrograms are a common imaging used to visualize soft tissue, such as the labrum, bicipital tendon, and the rotator cuff. Knowing what the test will be suggests what the doctors are looking for. It's clear that Zambrano will miss at least one start. I'm setting his DXL at 15 because of the expectation of a DL stint, but I don't know yet how long he will be out, and yes, that injury cost seems low.

 

Dude, stop posting. You are bumming me out!

 

What is DXL, and is 15 a good one or bad one?

 

And does he mean when he says "The injury cost seems low"?

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