Re: 5/5 Cubs (Dempster) vs. Dusty Baker's Reds (Cueto)

[C.C.]

I just popped my 6th corona light...Thank god for cinco de mayo! Esp. games this!

[Mizzou]

The cardinals tie it back up. They find ways to win game, we find ways to lose them.

 

hopefully, they'll find way to die.

What are you, 13?

[bukie]

Today's slice of Pie for CF (since Perry worked with him, April 21):

Felix Pie: 6 starts, 29 PA, 8 H, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 BB, 7 K, .333/.413/.500/.913

Reed Johnson: 11 starts, 50 PA, 9H, 3 BB, 6K, .205/.320/.227/.547

 

We've now also reached the point where Pie has as many PA since working with Perry as after (well, 30 before, 29 after). Yes, he was really bad the first two weeks of the season. However, he's earned a shot to play against almost every righty the Cubs face. Lou is looking all over the place for a LH hitting outfielder when he's had one the whole time.

 

EDIT: I missed Johnson's double from yesterday. Just wanted to be accurate.

Edited May 6, 2008 by bukie

[Little Slide Rooter]

The cardinals tie it back up. They find ways to win game, we find ways to lose them.

 

hopefully, they'll find way to die.

What are you, 13?

 

No. pissed off. Cubs blow another one, have a racoon in the attic that wont go away, and my wifes watching The Hills. And by they, I was refering to the Cards.

[C.C.]

The cardinals tie it back up. They find ways to win game, we find ways to lose them.

 

hopefully, they'll find way to die.

What are you, 13?

 

No. pissed off. Cubs blow another one, have a racoon in the attic that wont go away, and my wifes watching The Hills. And by they, I was refering to the Cards.

 

I'd be pissed off to.

[TruffleShuffle]

unbelievable....

 

I'm not freaking out yet, but these are some really tough losses

 

the cubs have been getting more people on base than their opponents. the reds basically did nothing on offense all night except for a couple of innings when they were helped by cubs' errors. the cubs have been leaving a lot of guys on base lately. plus one of the best hitters on the team has been out of the lineup.

 

the cubs will be fine. it's just a rough patch with poor luck, similar to the rough start to the year last year, but the cubs have more of a cushion after winning a lot in april.

I'm not going to lose it yet, but we're going to be down 8.5 if this keeps up. You know STL is going to win tonight's game.

 

they will? did i miss the part where the cardinals were a great team and not an average one?

[TruffleShuffle]

Today's slice of Pie for CF (since Perry worked with him, April 21):

Felix Pie: 6 starts, 29 PA, 8 H, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 BB, 7 K, .333/.413/.500/.913

Reed Johnson: 11 starts, 50 PA, 9H, 3 BB, 6K, .191/.320/.191/.511

 

We've now also reached the point where Pie has as many PA since working with Perry as after (well, 30 before, 29 after). Yes, he was really bad the first two weeks of the season. However, he's earned a shot to play against almost every righty the Cubs face. Lou is looking all over the place for a LH hitting outfielder when he's had one the whole time.

 

i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that reed johnson doesn't make that catch on griffey either.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Today's slice of Pie for CF (since Perry worked with him, April 21):

Felix Pie: 6 starts, 29 PA, 8 H, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 BB, 7 K, .333/.413/.500/.913

Reed Johnson: 11 starts, 50 PA, 9H, 3 BB, 6K, .191/.320/.191/.511

 

We've now also reached the point where Pie has as many PA since working with Perry as after (well, 30 before, 29 after). Yes, he was really bad the first two weeks of the season. However, he's earned a shot to play against almost every righty the Cubs face. Lou is looking all over the place for a LH hitting outfielder when he's had one the whole time.

 

Pie needs patience. Usually when he puts the bat on the ball, he does OK for himself. Someone needs to show him a video of Corey Pattersons time with the Cubs and title it What Not to Do.

[Flames24Rulz]

Same old crappy Cubs.

 

I'm not going to get too bent out of shape over this.

[Little Slide Rooter]

How the hell are we still in 1st for the Wild Card?

[bukie]

Today's slice of Pie for CF (since Perry worked with him, April 21):

Felix Pie: 6 starts, 29 PA, 8 H, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 BB, 7 K, .333/.413/.500/.913

Reed Johnson: 11 starts, 50 PA, 9H, 3 BB, 6K, .191/.320/.191/.511

 

We've now also reached the point where Pie has as many PA since working with Perry as after (well, 30 before, 29 after). Yes, he was really bad the first two weeks of the season. However, he's earned a shot to play against almost every righty the Cubs face. Lou is looking all over the place for a LH hitting outfielder when he's had one the whole time.

 

Pie needs patience. Usually when he puts the bat on the ball, he does OK for himself. Someone needs to show him a video of Corey Pattersons time with the Cubs and title it What Not to Do.

 

Pie's strikeout today was due to patience. He's always been more of a Soriano type hitter than a Fukudome. He'll never be a big walker, but he'll be a really good hitter. At every level he's played, it takes him a couple of months to get used to the level, and then he absolutely torches it. He's still getting used to this level.

 

Lou just needs to use him every day against righties. There's no reason not to, because Reed Johnson is awful vs. righties.

[17 Seconds]

When it gets this bad I kind of stop caring after a loss. It's just like "ehh, whatever, they've been losing almost every day for about 2 weeks now, what's one more loss?". This is sad.

[SABR Gamer]

Bye Fontenot.

 

Error in the 1st.

Out at home in the 9th (Yes he should have been safe but the ball beat him by a mile)

 

He blew the game for us tonight. It should have been a 1 run game with 1 out and Lee at bat. Oh and if he didn't make that error Cubs win tonight.

 

DFA or send him to Iowa.

 

he has an .844 OPS and this was his first error of the season. i'm pretty sure a player like that has some usefulness to a team.

 

thank God you're not the cubsGM, that's all i can say.

 

Haha, true, I hate the short sided people who want to throw away Fontenot and Theriot. They can be useful, just not in their current roles. Fontenot and Theriot should be on the bench with Pie and Cedeno playing every day, unfortunately it's the other way around, which makes people hate them, even though they would be very useful as bench players. Fontenot isn't going to be an every day player, and E-Pat could be the heir to DeRosa at 2nd, so you don't call him up to play on the bench.

 

The thing that bothers me is that there are a handful of people on this message board who alone capable of writing out the lineup better than Lou. It could be that Lou knows what to do and just doesn't have the balls to do it though.

 

1. Fukudome (RF)

2. Cedeno (SS)

3. Lee (1B)

4. Ramirez (3B)

5. Soto ©

6. Soriano (LF)

7. DeRosa (2B)

8. Pie (CF)

 

B. Theriot

B. Fontenot

B. Ward

B. Johnson

B. Blanco

 

 

1. Zambrano

2. Lilly

3. Dempster

4. Hill

5. Gallagher

 

LR. Lieber

MR. Loogy (Anybody but Marshall, who should be starting in the minors waiting for Dempster to blow up)

MR. Ascanio (Throwing awesome in AAA, and I like as many flame throwers as possible in the pen, highest ceiling of the options)

MR. Wuertz

FM. Marmol

SU. Howry

CL. Wood

 

 

That bench kinda sucks though. Wish we had Jake Fox as some righty pop. Contact hitters are so over valued in my opinion, I'm all about power.

[TruffleShuffle]

Today's slice of Pie for CF (since Perry worked with him, April 21):

Felix Pie: 6 starts, 29 PA, 8 H, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 BB, 7 K, .333/.413/.500/.913

Reed Johnson: 11 starts, 50 PA, 9H, 3 BB, 6K, .191/.320/.191/.511

 

We've now also reached the point where Pie has as many PA since working with Perry as after (well, 30 before, 29 after). Yes, he was really bad the first two weeks of the season. However, he's earned a shot to play against almost every righty the Cubs face. Lou is looking all over the place for a LH hitting outfielder when he's had one the whole time.

 

Pie needs patience. Usually when he puts the bat on the ball, he does OK for himself. Someone needs to show him a video of Corey Pattersons time with the Cubs and title it What Not to Do.

 

yeah and when he watches a ball go by for strike three, everyone freaks out and says he is lost.

 

corey's P/PA as a big leaguer is 3.34. pie's is 3.67. yes, felix has an approach that will lead him to strike out some, but he also shows the potential to walk more than corey, and to do a better job of picking pitches that he can drive.

[UMFan83]

Pie is 2-25 when the count is 0-1, 0-2, 1-2 and 9-24 in every other AB (not including today) Edited May 6, 2008 by UMFan83

[Omar]

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[Andy]

unbelievable....

 

I'm not freaking out yet, but these are some really tough losses

 

the cubs have been getting more people on base than their opponents. the reds basically did nothing on offense all night except for a couple of innings when they were helped by cubs' errors. the cubs have been leaving a lot of guys on base lately. plus one of the best hitters on the team has been out of the lineup.

 

the cubs will be fine. it's just a rough patch with poor luck, similar to the rough start to the year last year, but the cubs have more of a cushion after winning a lot in april.

I'm not going to lose it yet, but we're going to be down 8.5 if this keeps up. You know STL is going to win tonight's game.

 

they will? did i miss the part where the cardinals were a great team and not an average one?

They're actually a quite bad one, but they've played far above their heads before. With those minions I won't believe they're not a threat until they prove it.

[chitowngui]

Those minions just took 2 out of 3 from our over priced crybabies.

 

. With those minions I won't believe they're not a threat until they prove it.

[VanceJergins]

unbelievable....

 

I'm not freaking out yet, but these are some really tough losses

 

the cubs have been getting more people on base than their opponents. the reds basically did nothing on offense all night except for a couple of innings when they were helped by cubs' errors. the cubs have been leaving a lot of guys on base lately. plus one of the best hitters on the team has been out of the lineup.

 

the cubs will be fine. it's just a rough patch with poor luck, similar to the rough start to the year last year, but the cubs have more of a cushion after winning a lot in april.

I'm not going to lose it yet, but we're going to be down 8.5 if this keeps up. You know STL is going to win tonight's game.

 

they will? did i miss the part where the cardinals were a great team and not an average one?

They're actually a quite bad one, but they've played far above their heads before. With those minions I won't believe they're not a threat until they prove it.

 

You beat me to it. The Cardinals aren't even near an average team. They're terrible. Its insane that they're doing what they're doing.

 

Also, Fontenot is dead to me. He ruined the most exciting game I've ever been to.

[Soul]

Is it OK to start being concerned yet?

 

Not really. We aren't getting any calls or any breaks.

 

We aren't scoring many runs either, in most games. The offense looks good because we explode in some games, but then like yesterday, it's struggle struggle struggle.

[UMFan83]

Is it OK to start being concerned yet?

 

Not really. We aren't getting any calls or any breaks.

 

We aren't scoring many runs either, in most games. The offense looks good because we explode in some games, but then like yesterday, it's struggle struggle struggle.

 

It's weird. I'm not sure if we can call it feast or famine, because the team is still getting on base at a decent clip. It's just not getting that key hit. So bizarre that we've loaded the bases in I think 18 straight games, but we are having trouble scoring runs.

[C.C.]

Is it OK to start being concerned yet?

 

Not really. We aren't getting any calls or any breaks.

 

We aren't scoring many runs either, in most games. The offense looks good because we explode in some games, but then like yesterday, it's struggle struggle struggle.

 

It's weird. I'm not sure if we can call it feast or famine, because the team is still getting on base at a decent clip. It's just not getting that key hit. So bizarre that we've loaded the bases in I think 18 straight games, but we are having trouble scoring runs.

 

At least were getting on base. It's only a matter of time before we make another run.

[gflore34]

Is it OK to start being concerned yet?

 

Not really. We aren't getting any calls or any breaks.

 

We aren't scoring many runs either, in most games. The offense looks good because we explode in some games, but then like yesterday, it's struggle struggle struggle.

 

It's weird. I'm not sure if we can call it feast or famine, because the team is still getting on base at a decent clip. It's just not getting that key hit. So bizarre that we've loaded the bases in I think 18 straight games, but we are having trouble scoring runs.

 

At least were getting on base. It's only a matter of time before we make another run.

 

Seconded, if this team maintains its approach at the plate they're going to continue to get base runners eventually Lee, Ramirez and company will start driving them in.

[VanceJergins]

Is it OK to start being concerned yet?

 

Not really. We aren't getting any calls or any breaks.

 

We aren't scoring many runs either, in most games. The offense looks good because we explode in some games, but then like yesterday, it's struggle struggle struggle.

 

I don't think they struggled at all yesterday. They were smoking the ball left and right, but caught some tough breaks. I couldn't tell if Griffey's catch would have been a homerun, but it was hit really good even if not, Ward absolutely crushed the ball, Pie barely missed a homerun, Fukudome smoked the ball right at Griffey with a couple runners on at one point. Add in their patience and it was a pretty good hitting night, it was just some tough breaks and Fontenot.

[Guest]

Is it OK to start being concerned yet?

 

I'd be worried about your health and sanity if you weren't freaking out no matter what.

 

I'm still waiting for the Saints to finish the comeback against the Bears in the NFC championship game. :)