Interest in Carl Crawford?

[back2backjax]

Sullivan speculates that Carl Crawford might be had for Rich Hill, EPatt and a couple of other prospects. If you're Jim Hendry, don't you at least have to make the call and see what it would take. While I like EPatt and think he will be a good big leaguer, packaging him with Hill to get a player like Crawford that can hit, run and play good D would be a no brainer. How would this lineup look:

 

Crawford - OF

DeRosa - 2B

Lee - 1B

Ramirez - 3B

Soriano - OF

Soto - C

Pie - OF

Theriot - SS

 

Talk about speed in the outfield and throughout the lineup.

 

Thoughts?

[cbbryan]

Who would you replace Hill with in the rotation?

[Roast]

Who would you replace Hill with in the rotation?

 

Johan Santana, when we aquire him, obviously.

[Yanksfan1523]

You have to make the call. You can figure out how to replace hill as you progress towards a deal. Crawford is deserving of a call!

[Bote McBoteface]

Who would you replace Hill with in the rotation?

 

 

Steve Trachsel. Duh.

 

 

 

....gotta have vets, dude.

[NCCubFan]

Who would you replace Hill with in the rotation?

Dempster.

 

Or, rather, that's who Hendry and Lou would replace him with. I'd replace him with Gallagher.

[Hosak8]

Who would you replace Hill with in the rotation?

 

I'm sorry, but if you can get Carl Crawford for Rich Hill, you do it, and worry about that spot in the rotation later.

[muntjack]

I like Carl Crawford, but if I'm giving up Hill for a LF, I want a ~.900 OPS guy, even if it means throwing in Gallagher or Colvin.

[rawaction]

I like Carl Crawford, but if I'm giving up Hill for a LF, I want a ~.900 OPS guy, even if it means throwing in Gallagher or Colvin.

 

Agreed. Crawford would add a lot to this team offensively and defensively, but for Rich Hill and what may be the top offensive prospect (albeit in a weak system) I would like someone that is an .850 OPS guy with a little more power than CC can provide.

 

I'd see if they would accept Marshall and a couple of better prospects, though.

[CuseCubFan69]

I like Carl Crawford, but if I'm giving up Hill for a LF, I want a ~.900 OPS guy, even if it means throwing in Gallagher or Colvin.

 

Agreed. Crawford would add a lot to this team offensively and defensively, but for Rich Hill and what may be the top offensive prospect (albeit in a weak system) I would like someone that is an .850 OPS guy with a little more power than CC can provide.

 

I'd see if they would accept Marshall and a couple of better prospects, though.

 

Does this then push Soriano to right then? I like Crawford but as a CF other than that I don't see his value as that high.

[jmajew]

I think Crawford should only be plan C. We need to try to improve the offense without giving up pitching. I would much rather sign Fukodome or Jose Guillen. Preferably both and then trade Pie for Khalil Greene. Could you imagine a lineup of Soriano, Fukodome, Lee, Ramirez, Guillen, Greene, Soto, DeRosa?

[badnews]

Crawford is overrated.

[SweetZombieJesus]

I think Crawford should only be plan C. We need to try to improve the offense without giving up pitching. I would much rather sign Fukodome or Jose Guillen. Preferably both and then trade Pie for Khalil Greene. Could you imagine a lineup of Soriano, Fukodome, Lee, Ramirez, Guillen, Greene, Soto, DeRosa?

 

Why? Might as well get Luis Gonzales instead of Guillen. At least LuGo won't go ******* when something doesn't go his way. Like Guillen did in California.

[SweetZombieJesus]

I like Carl Crawford, but if I'm giving up Hill for a LF, I want a ~.900 OPS guy, even if it means throwing in Gallagher or Colvin.

 

Agreed. Crawford would add a lot to this team offensively and defensively, but for Rich Hill and what may be the top offensive prospect (albeit in a weak system) I would like someone that is an .850 OPS guy with a little more power than CC can provide.

 

I'd see if they would accept Marshall and a couple of better prospects, though.

 

Crawford's numbers would jump when he gets out of that giant cyclinder they have in tampa.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

I like Carl Crawford, but if I'm giving up Hill for a LF, I want a ~.900 OPS guy, even if it means throwing in Gallagher or Colvin.

 

Agreed. Crawford would add a lot to this team offensively and defensively, but for Rich Hill and what may be the top offensive prospect (albeit in a weak system) I would like someone that is an .850 OPS guy with a little more power than CC can provide.

 

I'd see if they would accept Marshall and a couple of better prospects, though.

 

Crawford's numbers would jump when he gets out of that giant cyclinder they have in tampa.

Yea.

 

2007:

.874 OPS on the road

.764 OPS at home

 

2005:

.850 OPS on the road

.748 OPS at home

 

2006 seems a bizarre outlier. His OPS was almost identical on the road and at home, and actually a tough higher at home (.836 vs .823). No clue what's going on there.

[nilodnayr]

Crawford is overrated.

[badnews]

I'm not sure I buy that. No one in 2007 who hit the ball on the ground as much as Crawford did had an Isolated Power above .182. We could instead analyze what will happen to Crawford if his strikeout rate keeps climbing like it has every year.

 

The Rays' dome played more as a run-inflating park in 2006. It may supress runs but it doesn't supress home runs apparently. Crawford's rise in OPS on the road was because he hit for a higher average on the road, not more power. He struck out at about the same rate so it makes his BABIP there look even more unlikely. I don't think a move to Wrigley is going to inflate his batting average, you're supposed to want to get guys to hit the ball on the ground at Wrigley. So what benefit are we supposing? "He'll do better with the Cubs because we'll pay dearly for him and God loves the Cubs."

 

If only. Why don't we take any package that is good enough to get Carl Crawford and offer it for a player that suits our needs better.

[JeffH]

Crawford is overrated.

 

Also, Rich Hill is underrated.

 

Anyway, if Hill is going anywhere, it's to the Marlins for Hermida or to the Orioles for Markakis. :wink:

[SweetZombieJesus]

Crawford is overrated.

 

Also, Rich Hill is underrated.

 

Anyway, if Hill is going anywhere, it's to the Marlins for Hermida or to the Orioles for Markakis. :wink:

 

Markakis I could see. I'm not a huge believer of Hermida yet.

 

Hill's underrated a tad because all of the really good lefties are in the AL. Hamels is the only NLer who probably is a top 5 lefty in the majors.

[SweetZombieJesus]

I'm not sure I buy that. No one in 2007 who hit the ball on the ground as much as Crawford did had an Isolated Power above .182. We could instead analyze what will happen to Crawford if his strikeout rate keeps climbing like it has every year.

 

The Rays' dome played more as a run-inflating park in 2006. It may supress runs but it doesn't supress home runs apparently. Crawford's rise in OPS on the road was because he hit for a higher average on the road, not more power. He struck out at about the same rate so it makes his BABIP there look even more unlikely. I don't think a move to Wrigley is going to inflate his batting average, you're supposed to want to get guys to hit the ball on the ground at Wrigley. So what benefit are we supposing? "He'll do better with the Cubs because we'll pay dearly for him and God loves the Cubs."

 

If only. Why don't we take any package that is good enough to get Carl Crawford and offer it for a player that suits our needs better.

 

2006 was only the second time in the past 7 years (along with '04 when it was slightly above even) where it played as beneficial HR park.

 

The rest of the time it's been mid 85-95 park effect for HR.

 

The only thing it's been a consistent hitter's benefit is for triples.

 

I averaged the Park effects at the trop from the past 7 years together (probably not the most accurate I know) he's what I got

 

.974 R

.949 HR

.991 H

.986 2B

1.311 3B

 

in comparison 2006 was

 

1.041 R

1.164 HR

0.972 H

0.932 2B

1.609 3B

Edited November 13, 2007 by SweetZombieJesus

[tinkerstoeverstochance]

espn1000 is reporting Monroe and package to Ray at the 11am update!! for Crawford

[Keener98]

espn1000 is reporting Monroe and package to Ray at the 11am update!! for Crawford

 

Monroe? huh

[E.J.]

That doesn't even make sense. Isn't Monroe a FA?

[JeffH]

That must be some package.

[Keener98]

That doesn't even make sense. Isn't Monroe a FA?

 

Yea thats why I said Monroe, huh? It makes no sense even if he wasnt a free agent lol.