Where does A-Rod play next year?

[CuseCubFan69]

The Cubs best bet to get A-Rod is to work behind the scenes and get Boras and the Yankees to agree to trade Aramis for A-Rod. The Cubs can't afford to add 20 million to their payroll for one player. Hendry/Piniella know this.

 

No matter what in order to get A-rod we will have to dump a lot of salary. With Soriano, Ramirez, Lee, and Zambrano making what about 70 mil between them I think we are in trouble.

 

Trading ARod for ARam doesn't improve the team all that much.

 

It could. But not as much as they need to be truly great.

 

I'd rather them try and be great.

 

If you're looking at trading pieces and players, I'd deal them Lee, Marmol and others for ARod.

 

But NY won't trade him. They'll let him walk away in a manner that you described.

 

How can the Yanks trade ARod if he can just walk out of his contract?

 

It's all about the money Texas owes. If ARod is in discussions with another team, he can get what they will offer + the money Texas owes, if he doesn't opt out. The only way to do that is to get the Yankees to trade him. The Yankees would most likely oblige, considering they'd get a lot more than the draft pick they would otherwise get for losing him.

 

Why would ARod do that though? It would make the team he is dealt to even worse.

[USSoccer]

 

Why would ARod do that though? It would make the team he is dealt to even worse.

 

If the Cubs hypothetically traded Lee, Marmol, Marshall and Pie for ARod, we would be better than we are right now.

 

It all depends on the team. LAD could afford to deal (stupidly) Kemp, Loney, and whichever other prospects Plaschke and Colletti hate today and they'd be very competitive for the next 3-4 years.

[jersey cubs fan]

Why would ARod do that though? It would make the team he is dealt to even worse.

 

A) He'd get more money.

 

B) It may be the only way that team feels it can afford him (by trading away another contract or two).

 

C) Depending on that trade, it wouldn't necessarily make the other team worse, on a net basis, and, if they are already good, (Angels for instance) that net improvement may be viewed as a big enough improvement.

 

 

As a generic example, Team X could trade away an overpaid mediocre player whom that team can replace from within, a good but not great player the team wouldn't necessarily miss (especially since they are adding ARod) but whom the Yankees could afford and make use of, and a solid prospect or two. The players Team X give up hurts a little, but getting ARod helps a lot. Add in the fact that he theoretically gets $33m more than he'd get by opting out and signig the contract, and I think he'd be up for it.

[jmajew]

Why would ARod do that though? It would make the team he is dealt to even worse.

 

A) He'd get more money.

 

B) It may be the only way that team feels it can afford him (by trading away another contract or two).

 

C) Depending on that trade, it wouldn't necessarily make the other team worse, on a net basis, and, if they are already good, (Angels for instance) that net improvement may be viewed as a big enough improvement.

 

 

As a generic example, Team X could trade away an overpaid mediocre player whom that team can replace from within, a good but not great player the team wouldn't necessarily miss (especially since they are adding ARod) but whom the Yankees could afford and make use of, and a solid prospect or two. The players Team X give up hurts a little, but getting ARod helps a lot. Add in the fact that he theoretically gets $33m more than he'd get by opting out and signig the contract, and I think he'd be up for it.

 

The Biggest reason for A-Rod to do it is that more teams will be able to afford him, since Texas would still be paying some of the contract.

[Guest]

The Giants have the money to spend, but I don't see A-Rod going to a team that will most likely be in last place for the next umpteen years.

 

Outside of a nice front 3 of Cain, Lincecum and Zito, they have NOTHING.

 

Add Zito and they could easily have one of the top rotations in the game. Pitching is very important. Add Arod, and they aren't as far as people think. They don't have much else offensively, but they will probably have the most money to spend. We will see if Arod runs for the money again, like he did when he went to Texas.

 

You want me to add him again? I have him as part of the front 3.

 

Don't forget Noah Lowry.

[CuseCubFan69]

 

Why would ARod do that though? It would make the team he is dealt to even worse.

 

If the Cubs hypothetically traded Lee, Marmol, Marshall and Pie for ARod, we would be better than we are right now.

 

It all depends on the team. LAD could afford to deal (stupidly) Kemp, Loney, and whichever other prospects Plaschke and Colletti hate today and they'd be very competitive for the next 3-4 years.

 

If the Cubs had Ward at first or someone else? Looking at your deal, that is a move for a win today,

 

no doubt. imo, the Yanks would want Ramirez and it may be possible that the two guys that were "assumed" scapegoats be traded for each other.

 

Would it help the Cubs to get Hughes or Cano for Ramirez and then just sign ARod?

[Backtobanks]

The Giants have the money to spend, but I don't see A-Rod going to a team that will most likely be in last place for the next umpteen years.

 

Outside of a nice front 3 of Cain, Lincecum and Zito, they have NOTHING.

 

Add Zito and they could easily have one of the top rotations in the game. Pitching is very important. Add Arod, and they aren't as far as people think. They don't have much else offensively, but they will probably have the most money to spend. We will see if Arod runs for the money again, like he did when he went to Texas.

 

You want me to add him again? I have him as part of the front 3.

 

As far as ARod running for the money, I don't see it happening. What would be the point? He has to know that the 25m a year he originally signed for is what hampered him in Texas. He can stay in NY for another 3 years if it's all about the money.

 

At this point, he should not care about the money and be more focused on playing on a fun team in a fun town that has a chance to win.

 

In other words, he's done the highest paid player in baseball thing and it hasn't brought him any championship rings. If I was him, I'd take a modest but respectable payday from a team that would allow me to play the position I want to play and not rip me apart in the press day in and day out and the team gave me enjoyment, while still having an opportunity to win a championship ring.

 

Chicago is ARod's kind of town.

 

Surely you jest. ARod and Boras are not about to let ARod take a modest payday from a team. I'm sure ARod wants to remain the highest paid player in baseball and while winning a ring is important, he's not about to give up tens of millions of dollars to play on a team that might get him a ring. Besides the teams most able to afford $30 million per year are also the teams that give him the best shot at a ring (Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, etc.)

[nilodnayr]

The Giants have the money to spend, but I don't see A-Rod going to a team that will most likely be in last place for the next umpteen years.

 

Outside of a nice front 3 of Cain, Lincecum and Zito, they have NOTHING.

 

Add Zito and they could easily have one of the top rotations in the game. Pitching is very important. Add Arod, and they aren't as far as people think. They don't have much else offensively, but they will probably have the most money to spend. We will see if Arod runs for the money again, like he did when he went to Texas.

 

You want me to add him again? I have him as part of the front 3.

 

As far as ARod running for the money, I don't see it happening. What would be the point? He has to know that the 25m a year he originally signed for is what hampered him in Texas. He can stay in NY for another 3 years if it's all about the money.

 

At this point, he should not care about the money and be more focused on playing on a fun team in a fun town that has a chance to win.

 

In other words, he's done the highest paid player in baseball thing and it hasn't brought him any championship rings. If I was him, I'd take a modest but respectable payday from a team that would allow me to play the position I want to play and not rip me apart in the press day in and day out and the team gave me enjoyment, while still having an opportunity to win a championship ring.

 

Chicago is ARod's kind of town.

 

Surely you jest. ARod and Boras are not about to let ARod take a modest payday from a team. I'm sure ARod wants to remain the highest paid player in baseball and while winning a ring is important, he's not about to give up tens of millions of dollars to play on a team that might get him a ring. Besides the teams most able to afford $30 million per year are also the teams that give him the best shot at a ring (Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, etc.)

 

The union would have something to say about that as well.

 

To back up BTB, ARod has a stipulation in his contract that Rodriguez may void after 2008 or 2009 unless club increases 2009-10 salary by $5M/year or $1M more than highest-paid MLB position player.

[frostwyrm]

If ARod is seriously concerned about getting a ring then I don't see why he would be particularly excited about going to a team that is about to change owners. Too much uncertainty there. It baffles me that everyone here talks like a Cubs payroll increase is a sure thing. It's not. It could even go down. Certainly ARod is aware of that. If he's just concerned about money then Hendry will need to pay full market value to get him. I don't think that's realistic given the pending sale and existing salary commitments

[CubFanPhilly]

Time to recap the no-trade clauses Hendry's been handing out:

 

Ramirez (full)

Lee (limited)

Soriano (full)

Zambrano (full)

Lilly (limited)

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

"The right of free agency has probably never been more valuable to a single player than it would be to someone like Alex Rodriguez," Boras said during a phone interview with 1050 ESPN New York conducted prior to the Yankees ALDS loss to the Indians. "The reason being is that he is a stature player, a durable player, an iconic player and he has had a historic season. Again, these are decisions that Alex has to make. He is certainly happy in New York and has enjoyed playing there."

 

"One of the other things that Alex has that some of the other things that Alex has that few players have is he has network value," Boras said. "That means for a regional sports network he has an impact on in that may allow that regional sports network to increase by a half-a-billion to a billion dollars over a 10-year period because of the ratings increase that he will bring. His fan base will subscribe to that network to watch him play and they will sell more advertising. This has certainly been evidenced in New York."

 

"The thing about Alex is he has a chance to play 12 more years and break the all-time hit record," Boras said. "It is a record that he could break. You only have to go and map out that if Alex Rodriguez were to play until he is 45 and he averaged 35 home runs he would have over 1,000 homers. It is a unique platform where he is at at such a young age. The projections are rather mind-boggling when you consider the fact even if he performed at a level that is 15 percent below what he is performing at now, he still would lift many of these records just by the mere fact that he has played this long."

 

Link.

[rocket]

i believe eyre has a limited no trade clause.

[mfische5]

No GM in their right mind should trade for Arod, because Arod SHOULD opt out of his contract.

 

If he does NOT opt out, then he will be 35 when he gets his next payday. Considering the condition he keeps himself in, i imagine it would still be a 15-20 mill/year payday.

 

If he opts out now, he is coming off a historic season and is only 32. His value now is 20-30 mill/year. He will probably get a very similar contract (25/8-10) that he got earlier. That financially makes more sense, and allows him to pick his team. He even could go 20/8-10 and have an even wider selection of teams.

 

His value will not be higher in the next 3 years then it is now, and if you subtact Torre and Arod from the Yankees, and consider that the free agent pitching class is weak (and the yankees pitching is a problem), then that has to make Yankees not a favorite for a WS ring (or even appearance) .

[nilodnayr]

No GM in their right mind should trade for Arod, because Arod SHOULD opt out of his contract.

 

If he does NOT opt out, then he will be 35 when he gets his next payday. Considering the condition he keeps himself in, i imagine it would still be a 15-20 mill/year payday.

 

If he opts out now, he is coming off a historic season and is only 32. His value now is 20-30 mill/year. He will probably get a very similar contract (25/8-10) that he got earlier. That financially makes more sense, and allows him to pick his team. He even could go 20/8-10 and have an even wider selection of teams.

 

His value will not be higher in the next 3 years then it is now, and if you subtact Torre and Arod from the Yankees, and consider that the free agent pitching class is weak (and the yankees pitching is a problem), then that has to make Yankees not a favorite for a WS ring (or even appearance) .

 

You save 21M by trading for him and just extending him because TX would still be on the hook.

[apete6]

No GM in their right mind should trade for Arod, because Arod SHOULD opt out of his contract.

 

If he does NOT opt out, then he will be 35 when he gets his next payday. Considering the condition he keeps himself in, i imagine it would still be a 15-20 mill/year payday.

 

If he opts out now, he is coming off a historic season and is only 32. His value now is 20-30 mill/year. He will probably get a very similar contract (25/8-10) that he got earlier. That financially makes more sense, and allows him to pick his team. He even could go 20/8-10 and have an even wider selection of teams.

 

His value will not be higher in the next 3 years then it is now, and if you subtact Torre and Arod from the Yankees, and consider that the free agent pitching class is weak (and the yankees pitching is a problem), then that has to make Yankees not a favorite for a WS ring (or even appearance) .

 

You save 21M by trading for him and just extending him because TX would still be on the hook.

 

Ramirez and Prior for AROD and Philip Hughes. AROD signs 10 year/$200 million dollar contract, which is really like 10/$179 if you count Texas' contribution.

 

I buy AROD jersey and then AROD proceeds to die in freak car accident and millions of Cubs fans committ suicide.

 

Oh ya, then Prior wins 10 consecutive AL Cy Youngs and Ramirez wins 10 consecutive WS MVPs.

[Brian]

His fan base will subscribe to that network to watch him play and they will sell more advertising. This has certainly been evidenced in New York."

 

Doesn't Boras know about MLB's blackout restrictions?? :lol:

 

Isn't he claiming that random A-rod fan in Miami would subscribe to say the LA sports channel to watch A-Rod games. Which wouldn't work. The only thing random Miami fan would subscribe to would be MLB Extra Innings which doesn't help the team he signs for any more than it would if he signed anywhere else.

[d_money]

I'd like to see the Cubs and Sox work out a deal where they pool money together to land ARod. He then commits to only play home games for the Cubs/Sox and never has to leave Chicago while also playing both NL/AL teams.

 

Anyone think the union would go for this?

[davearm]

His fan base will subscribe to that network to watch him play and they will sell more advertising. This has certainly been evidenced in New York."

 

Doesn't Boras know about MLB's blackout restrictions?? :lol:

 

Isn't he claiming that random A-rod fan in Miami would subscribe to say the LA sports channel to watch A-Rod games. Which wouldn't work. The only thing random Miami fan would subscribe to would be MLB Extra Innings which doesn't help the team he signs for any more than it would if he signed anywhere else.

No he's claiming that subscribership on the Yankee's YES network, within the Yanks' home territory, has increased due to ARod's presence.

 

This yields more subscriber dollars, and more advertising dollars too.

 

And this effect would travel with him if he went to another team with its own network.

 

Whether the impact is as large as Boras claims I don't know, but it's definitely something to factor in.

[Knyption]

well darn make Cubs a national channel they would net close to yanks

[gwc2005]

Boras thinks FA is the way to go :lol:

Rodriguez’s Agent Votes for Free Agency

While the agent Scott Boras did not specifically say that Rodriguez would opt out with three years left on his 10-year, $252 million contract, he suggested that becoming a free agent again would be his client's savviest choice.

 

"When the arbitrator gave free agency to baseball, is there anyone in baseball who the free-agent right meant more to than Alex Rodriguez?" Boras said yesterday. "Not with his last contract, but right now, now more than any point in history."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/sports/baseball/10boras.html?ref=sports

[mfische5]

No GM in their right mind should trade for Arod, because Arod SHOULD opt out of his contract.

 

If he does NOT opt out, then he will be 35 when he gets his next payday. Considering the condition he keeps himself in, i imagine it would still be a 15-20 mill/year payday.

 

If he opts out now, he is coming off a historic season and is only 32. His value now is 20-30 mill/year. He will probably get a very similar contract (25/8-10) that he got earlier. That financially makes more sense, and allows him to pick his team. He even could go 20/8-10 and have an even wider selection of teams.

 

His value will not be higher in the next 3 years then it is now, and if you subtact Torre and Arod from the Yankees, and consider that the free agent pitching class is weak (and the yankees pitching is a problem), then that has to make Yankees not a favorite for a WS ring (or even appearance) .

 

You save 21M by trading for him and just extending him because TX would still be on the hook.

 

1. I thought texas only paid for the first few years and that this was the last year of the payment.

2. You would have to pay dearly to stop Arod from testing the market. I know that the cubs save 21 million (unless point 1 is right), but is the money really saved when you view rest of the market? Aram has a good contract (relatively), and the market is in one of the high end upswings right now. I think financially, in the long run for most GM's, it makes more sense to just wait, pay the extra few million and keep your star players. Especially if they are young stars who could offset the cost of Arod initially.

 

EDIT: Just looked it up...Point 1 is wrong. Texas is still paying for him.

[Wheelimus]

I think we have a chance, IF A-Rod opts out of his contract Boras is smart enough to at least lay back a month or two to see what happens with the Cubs ownership. I mean, if the owner is Mark Cuban he's going to at least want to include him in the bidding. And it isn't like his market is going to be any different in December than it would be in November.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Giants have the money to spend, but I don't see A-Rod going to a team that will most likely be in last place for the next umpteen years.

 

Outside of a nice front 3 of Cain, Lincecum and Zito, they have NOTHING.

 

Add Zito and they could easily have one of the top rotations in the game. Pitching is very important. Add Arod, and they aren't as far as people think. They don't have much else offensively, but they will probably have the most money to spend. We will see if Arod runs for the money again, like he did when he went to Texas.

 

You want me to add him again? I have him as part of the front 3.

 

Don't forget Noah Lowry.

 

Or Barry Zito.

[CuseCubFan69]

Time to recap the no-trade clauses Hendry's been handing out:

 

Ramirez (full)

Lee (limited)

Soriano (full)

Zambrano (full)

Lilly (limited)

 

True but in most cases it's to get some extra money to waive it and/or to keep from being sent to KC or Tampa. I don't see anyone turning down a trade to the Yanks.

[Balsa]

Fearless prediction:

 

OAKLAND