TheRiot still does well.

[Tracer Bullet]

even macias would have a good game or two

 

Neifi was a demigod with a bat for almost a solid month.

 

Yuck.

 

Really? I don't remember that.

 

I still stand by my opinion, however that Neifi was a decent 25th man. The problem was that he was used more that a 25th man should be used.

 

I disagree. I think his defense is overvalued at SS (I watched this year when he was filling in for Guillen at SS - yikes) and he's a relative 0 with the bat. He's not fast anymore (if he ever was - I don't know). There's nothing that Neifi brings that a relative non-prospect, young, cheap MI couldn't do for you.

[GhostRunner]

Neifi was a demigod with a bat for almost a solid month.

Ezekiel 25:17:

 

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know My name is the Lord . . . when I lay my Neifury upon thee."

[cubbieblue12]

even macias would have a good game or two

 

Neifi was a demigod with a bat for almost a solid month.

 

Yuck.

 

Really? I don't remember that.

 

I still stand by my opinion, however that Neifi was a decent 25th man. The problem was that he was used more that a 25th man should be used.

 

When Neifi first showed up with the Cubs, for 23 games at the end of the 2004 season, he hit .371/.400/.548.

 

And then he picked up where he left off and hit .368/.403/.559 in 68 at-bats in April of 05. Once May came though, it was over (although he did have a very good August of 05 as well).

 

Actually, the Neifster had 3 very good stretches with us in 2005........

 

Perez          AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR  TB RBI  BB  SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
04/04 - 04/30  68  11  25   2   1   3  38  12   3   7  0.368  0.403  0.559  0.962
05/17 - 06/05  83  11  33   5   0   3  47  12   1   5  0.398  0.407  0.566  0.973
07/10 - 09/07 162  15  55  17   1   2  80  19   6  10  0.340  0.363  0.494  0.857

 

What transpired in between was about as close to absolute zero as you can get.

 

 

My favorite Neifi moment is when he hit that grand slam in the 8th inning of a 2005 game at Busch Stadium to beat the cardinals. That was awesome. He was my least favorite player the rest of the time.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

even macias would have a good game or two

 

Neifi was a demigod with a bat for almost a solid month.

 

Yuck.

 

Really? I don't remember that.

 

I still stand by my opinion, however that Neifi was a decent 25th man. The problem was that he was used more that a 25th man should be used.

 

When Neifi first showed up with the Cubs, for 23 games at the end of the 2004 season, he hit .371/.400/.548.

 

And then he picked up where he left off and hit .368/.403/.559 in 68 at-bats in April of 05. Once May came though, it was over (although he did have a very good August of 05 as well).

 

Actually, the Neifster had 3 very good stretches with us in 2005........

 

Perez          AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR  TB RBI  BB  SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
04/04 - 04/30  68  11  25   2   1   3  38  12   3   7  0.368  0.403  0.559  0.962
05/17 - 06/05  83  11  33   5   0   3  47  12   1   5  0.398  0.407  0.566  0.973
07/10 - 09/07 162  15  55  17   1   2  80  19   6  10  0.340  0.363  0.494  0.857

 

What transpired in between was about as close to absolute zero as you can get.

 

 

My favorite Neifi moment is when he hit that grand slam in the 8th inning of a 2005 game at Busch Stadium to beat the cardinals. That was awesome. He was my least favorite player the rest of the time.

 

I was at that game. It was fun!

[NCCubFan]

My favorite Neifi moment is when he hit that grand slam in the 8th inning of a 2005 game at Busch Stadium to beat the cardinals. That was awesome. He was my least favorite player the rest of the time.

My favorite Neifi moment was in 1998 when he hit a home run to beat the Giants and create a Wild Card tie between the Giants and Cubs.

 

Of course, you probably meant your favorite moment when he was with the Cubs.

[Productive Outs]

cedeno >>>> theriot

[inari]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

[abuck1220]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs.

 

deal. if you won't pretend that theriot's success for one month will definitely translate to him being good for the rest of the season.

[inari]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs.

 

deal. if you won't pretend that theriot's success for one month will definitely translate to him being good for the rest of the season.

 

Trust me, I fell off the Theriot bandwagon a month ago. I'm just saying that there's a pretty good chance that when and if Cedeno comes up he'll be as awful as he's been the rest of his brief career in the majors.

[soccer10k]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

[Skyballer]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

I'm all for a shot for Cedeno, I just don't expect much.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

I'm all for a shot for Cedeno, I just don't expect much.

 

I expect more than we're getting out of Theriot or Izturis.

[Skyballer]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

I'm all for a shot for Cedeno, I just don't expect much.

 

I expect more than we're getting out of Theriot or Izturis.

I'd hold up on the Theriot part, but I won't say that the talent isn't there in both, just Theriot been able to translate talent to well reality.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

I'm all for a shot for Cedeno, I just don't expect much.

 

I expect more than we're getting out of Theriot or Izturis.

I'd hold up on the Theriot part, but I won't say that the talent isn't there in both, just Theriot been able to translate talent to well reality.

 

266/323/346 really isn't a great translation.

 

I like Theriot...but let's not pretend he's really that good; he's not.

[Skyballer]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

I'm all for a shot for Cedeno, I just don't expect much.

 

I expect more than we're getting out of Theriot or Izturis.

I'd hold up on the Theriot part, but I won't say that the talent isn't there in both, just Theriot been able to translate talent to well reality.

 

266/323/346 really isn't a great translation.

 

I like Theriot...but let's not pretend he's really that good; he's not.

He's young, he will have growing pains, that is inevitable but Cedeno didn't have growing pains he just plain sucked.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

He's young, he will have growing pains, that is inevitable but Cedeno didn't have growing pains he just plain sucked.

 

are you now the one arbitrarily deciding who has growing pains and who sucks?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

I'm all for a shot for Cedeno, I just don't expect much.

 

I expect more than we're getting out of Theriot or Izturis.

I'd hold up on the Theriot part, but I won't say that the talent isn't there in both, just Theriot been able to translate talent to well reality.

 

266/323/346 really isn't a great translation.

 

I like Theriot...but let's not pretend he's really that good; he's not.

He's young, he will have growing pains, that is inevitable but Cedeno didn't have growing pains he just plain sucked.

 

Let me get this straight....Cedeno who is 27 is experiencing growing pains while Cedeno who played in the majors last season at only 22 just sucked.

 

Would you like to guess what Theriot was doing when he was 22?

 

How about hitting .252/335/313 in the midwest league. So, if Cedeno sucked at 22, Theriot was sub-suckage.

 

You might want to quit now.

[Skyballer]

I'm all for giving Cedeno another shot, but let's not pretend that his success in in the minors will definitely translate to the bigs. Don't forget how awful he was last year and the early part of this year.

 

I wouldn't pretend that, but he's definitely got a solid chance of outperforming what the Cubs have gotten out of SS so far this year.

 

Yeah, it's not like we're getting great production out of the SS position anyway. At this point it's worth giving Ronny another shot.

I'm all for a shot for Cedeno, I just don't expect much.

 

I expect more than we're getting out of Theriot or Izturis.

I'd hold up on the Theriot part, but I won't say that the talent isn't there in both, just Theriot been able to translate talent to well reality.

 

266/323/346 really isn't a great translation.

 

I like Theriot...but let's not pretend he's really that good; he's not.

He's young, he will have growing pains, that is inevitable but Cedeno didn't have growing pains he just plain sucked.

 

Let me get this straight....Cedeno who is 27 is experiencing growing pains while Cedeno who played in the majors last season at only 22 just sucked.

 

Would you like to guess what Theriot was doing when he was 22?

 

How about hitting .252/335/313 in the midwest league. So, if Cedeno sucked at 22, Theriot was sub-suckage.

 

You might want to quit now.

What is Cedeno's career ML BA? Not Good.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

What is Cedeno's career ML BA? Not Good.

 

I fancy myself a patient person for the most part. I'm trying real hard here, Ringo.

[Skyballer]

What is Cedeno's career ML BA? Not Good.

 

I fancy myself a patient person for the most part. I'm trying real hard here, Ringo.

No one said you had to join this argument.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

What is Cedeno's career ML BA? Not Good.

 

I fancy myself a patient person for the most part. I'm trying real hard here, Ringo.

No one said you had to join this argument.

 

no one said you had to make a bunch of posts that don't make sense

[Skyballer]

What is Cedeno's career ML BA? Not Good.

 

I fancy myself a patient person for the most part. I'm trying real hard here, Ringo.

No one said you had to join this argument.

 

no one said you had to make a bunch of posts that don't make sense

They do make sense and posting i my right and choice it's not annoying me.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What is Cedeno's career ML BA? Not Good.

 

Ok. Did you miss my point?

 

Theriot is 27 years old. When he was the same age as Cedeno, he was plying his trade in single A.

 

Cedeno was 23 last season when you said he sucked, yet Theriot is just having growing pains.

 

If anything, the opposite is true. Theriot at 27 is likely at his peak, since most players begin their peak at 27. His peak is below average.

 

Cedeno didn't perform last year. That is true, but he was 23 years old. What Cedeno is hitting at AAA, Theriot hasn't approached at any level.

 

So, if Theriot is experiencing growing pains, then Cedeno is too.

 

Are you really this dense, or do you just get a hard on for a player and can't see the truth?

[Skyballer]

What is Cedeno's career ML BA? Not Good.

 

Ok. Did you miss my point?

 

Theriot is 27 years old. When he was the same age as Cedeno, he was plying his trade in single A.

 

Cedeno was 23 last season when you said he sucked, yet Theriot is just having growing pains.

 

If anything, the opposite is true. Theriot at 27 is likely at his peak, since most players begin their peak at 27. His peak is below average.

 

Cedeno didn't perform last year. That is true, but he was 23 years old. What Cedeno is hitting at AAA, Theriot hasn't approached at any level.

 

So, if Theriot is experiencing growing pains, then Cedeno is too.

 

Are you really this dense, or do you just get a hard on for a player and can't see the truth?

They have relatively the same ML experience.