2007 NFL draft

[CoolHandLuke]

I do not want Moss. He is my most hated NFL player and I don't think I could ever root for him.

[CP_414]

That better not be true. I want the Packers to get in on the Moss bidding in the offseason.

 

If it is true, ATL would be REALLY dumb to not do that deal. The last couple of years, I thought that Schaub was a better QB than Vick anyway, so imagine this offense: Schaub, Dunn/Norwood, Moss, Porter, Lelie, White, Jenkins, Crumpler. You go from having too many #3/#4 wideouts to having probably the deepest WR corps in the league. That would be a REAL scary team next year.

 

Has Favre announced his intentions for next year, yet? He said he planned on making a decision a few weeks after the season was over.

 

I thought he should have retired prior to last year. Now, I think he should come back for one more year. The Packers might be good enough to earn a playoff spot next year. Lots of money to spend.

 

He hasn't announced yet. If he comes back next year, I'm fairly confident that we're a playoff team next year, and that's without adding anybody new. Our defense nearly finished in the top 10 at the end of the year and right now, our only weakness on defense is at one of the safety positions. We can easily find a safety, be it through FA or the draft. We do have nearly $30 million in cap room to work with to help add some offensive skill players for Favre to work with (if he does come back).

 

My guess is that Favre will wait a couple more weeks to see what direction Thompson and McCarthy decide to go in. If they promise Favre that they will go after Moss or someone of that nature, he'll come back. If they don't, I'm not sure what he'll do. We didn't add much in the offseason last year and he decided to come back, so who knows?

 

You still start Brady Popinga, and I'm not sold on Cullen Jenkins (or KGB), plus there is no depth in the secondary. If anything were to happen to Woodson or Al Harris, the replacement (Dendy?) would get abused. I would worry about the regression of Greg Jennings (though he was banged up) and the running back position, Green isn't getting younger and Morency is a back-up. Plus Kurt Schottenheimer is still your secondary coach. The Packers finished strong, but I think they have some work to do to be considered a playoff team.

[Chocolate Milk]

This could be interesting. Could Quinn/Russell/Johnson end up in Atlanta?

 

The Raiders are preparing to make a run at Michael Vick, according to NFL sources. The Raiders package would include receivers Randy Moss and Jerry Porter plus the No.1 overall pick in the 2007 draft for Vick and the Falcons first round pick (10th overall).

 

If I'm getting those two receivers, I start Schaub and draft Joe Thomas.

 

That would be a wise move. Joe Thomas will be a force for 10+ years.

 

Robert Gallery was supposed to be the same thing and that's turned out great for the Raiders. But that's just because it's the Raiders so other teams should have nothing to worry about.

 

I didn't know too much about Gallery, but Joe Thomas is legitimate. I think he is the safest bet in the draft.

 

Robert Gallery was selected with the second overall pick in the 2004 NFL Draft by the Oakland Raiders, with a perfect 9.0 Draft Prospect Rating, the highest for any offensive lineman.

 

Maybe being a Raider killed his career, but he has nothing to do with Joe Thomas. We can run down a long long list of Top 10 quarterbacks who were busts, but they have nothing to do with Brady Quinn or JaMarcus Russell.

 

You said that Joe Thomas is "legit", well Gallery was regarded just as high or higher than Thomas is. Gallery was a "sure thing", too at one point. No draft pick, especially a offensive lineman is a sure thing.

 

Safest bet =/= Sure thing

[imb]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

[CP_414]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

[Flames24Rulz]

That better not be true. I want the Packers to get in on the Moss bidding in the offseason.

 

If it is true, ATL would be REALLY dumb to not do that deal. The last couple of years, I thought that Schaub was a better QB than Vick anyway, so imagine this offense: Schaub, Dunn/Norwood, Moss, Porter, Lelie, White, Jenkins, Crumpler. You go from having too many #3/#4 wideouts to having probably the deepest WR corps in the league. That would be a REAL scary team next year.

 

Has Favre announced his intentions for next year, yet? He said he planned on making a decision a few weeks after the season was over.

 

I thought he should have retired prior to last year. Now, I think he should come back for one more year. The Packers might be good enough to earn a playoff spot next year. Lots of money to spend.

 

He hasn't announced yet. If he comes back next year, I'm fairly confident that we're a playoff team next year, and that's without adding anybody new. Our defense nearly finished in the top 10 at the end of the year and right now, our only weakness on defense is at one of the safety positions. We can easily find a safety, be it through FA or the draft. We do have nearly $30 million in cap room to work with to help add some offensive skill players for Favre to work with (if he does come back).

 

My guess is that Favre will wait a couple more weeks to see what direction Thompson and McCarthy decide to go in. If they promise Favre that they will go after Moss or someone of that nature, he'll come back. If they don't, I'm not sure what he'll do. We didn't add much in the offseason last year and he decided to come back, so who knows?

 

You still start Brady Popinga, and I'm not sold on Cullen Jenkins (or KGB), plus there is no depth in the secondary. If anything were to happen to Woodson or Al Harris, the replacement (Dendy?) would get abused. I would worry about the regression of Greg Jennings (though he was banged up) and the running back position, Green isn't getting younger and Morency is a back-up. Plus Kurt Schottenheimer is still your secondary coach. The Packers finished strong, but I think they have some work to do to be considered a playoff team.

 

We put KGB back to a pass rusher only the final four weeks of the season and it worked. He played the best he has since his first year in the league when he came in by storm. Cullen Jenkins really played well as a DE. You're right about our corners. We do need to add a nickelback because we don't have much depth there. A lot of mock drafts have us landing Lynch at 16, so that would end our RB situation. But I do believe that Green still has a couple more years in him and that him and Morency are a solid 1-2 punch. I'm not worried about Jennings either. He had a great year up until he got hurt.

 

We missed our chance on getting Tim Lewis as our secondary coach. Big mistake on our part. Schottenheimer is one of the worst secondary coaches in the league and easily our weak link in our coaching staff.

 

But I really do think that at the end of the season, we showed what we can do next season if we can just make a few upgrades as a whole.

[imb]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

 

Calm down.

 

Someone mentioned Gallery in conjunction with Thomas, being that Gallery rated higher than Thomas is likely to, and still bombed.

 

You said you didn't know anything about Gallery, but that Thomas would be a "force for 10+ years". I gave you a little info on Gallery, and somehow you took offense.

[CP_414]

That better not be true. I want the Packers to get in on the Moss bidding in the offseason.

 

If it is true, ATL would be REALLY dumb to not do that deal. The last couple of years, I thought that Schaub was a better QB than Vick anyway, so imagine this offense: Schaub, Dunn/Norwood, Moss, Porter, Lelie, White, Jenkins, Crumpler. You go from having too many #3/#4 wideouts to having probably the deepest WR corps in the league. That would be a REAL scary team next year.

 

Has Favre announced his intentions for next year, yet? He said he planned on making a decision a few weeks after the season was over.

 

I thought he should have retired prior to last year. Now, I think he should come back for one more year. The Packers might be good enough to earn a playoff spot next year. Lots of money to spend.

 

He hasn't announced yet. If he comes back next year, I'm fairly confident that we're a playoff team next year, and that's without adding anybody new. Our defense nearly finished in the top 10 at the end of the year and right now, our only weakness on defense is at one of the safety positions. We can easily find a safety, be it through FA or the draft. We do have nearly $30 million in cap room to work with to help add some offensive skill players for Favre to work with (if he does come back).

 

My guess is that Favre will wait a couple more weeks to see what direction Thompson and McCarthy decide to go in. If they promise Favre that they will go after Moss or someone of that nature, he'll come back. If they don't, I'm not sure what he'll do. We didn't add much in the offseason last year and he decided to come back, so who knows?

 

You still start Brady Popinga, and I'm not sold on Cullen Jenkins (or KGB), plus there is no depth in the secondary. If anything were to happen to Woodson or Al Harris, the replacement (Dendy?) would get abused. I would worry about the regression of Greg Jennings (though he was banged up) and the running back position, Green isn't getting younger and Morency is a back-up. Plus Kurt Schottenheimer is still your secondary coach. The Packers finished strong, but I think they have some work to do to be considered a playoff team.

 

We put KGB back to a pass rusher only the final four weeks of the season and it worked. He played the best he has since his first year in the league when he came in by storm. Cullen Jenkins really played well as a DE. You're right about our corners. We do need to add a nickelback because we don't have much depth there. A lot of mock drafts have us landing Lynch at 16, so that would end our RB situation. But I do believe that Green still has a couple more years in him and that him and Morency are a solid 1-2 punch. I'm not worried about Jennings either. He had a great year up until he got hurt.

 

We missed our chance on getting Tim Lewis as our secondary coach. Big mistake on our part. Schottenheimer is one of the worst secondary coaches in the league and easily our weak link in our coaching staff.

 

But I really do think that at the end of the season, we showed what we can do next season if we can just make a few upgrades as a whole.

 

Any word on extensions for Nick Barnett or Al Harris up there? I get the feeling one of those guys will be moved like Javon Walker was. If I had to guess I would say Barnett won't be a Packer next year because he has been involved in a few off the field incidents (not a Packer Person), and they have Hodge behind him.

[CP_414]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

 

Calm down.

 

Someone mentioned Gallery in conjunction with Thomas, being that Gallery rated higher than Thomas is likely to, and still bombed.

 

You said you didn't know anything about Gallery, but that Thomas would be a "force for 10+ years". I gave you a little info on Gallery, and somehow you took offense.

 

I'm very calm, what implied that I wasn't? In what way did I take offense? I asked a legitimate question about how Thomas is more like Gallory than any other player in this draft is like a former bust at the same position. Still waiting for an answer.

[Flames24Rulz]

That better not be true. I want the Packers to get in on the Moss bidding in the offseason.

 

If it is true, ATL would be REALLY dumb to not do that deal. The last couple of years, I thought that Schaub was a better QB than Vick anyway, so imagine this offense: Schaub, Dunn/Norwood, Moss, Porter, Lelie, White, Jenkins, Crumpler. You go from having too many #3/#4 wideouts to having probably the deepest WR corps in the league. That would be a REAL scary team next year.

 

Has Favre announced his intentions for next year, yet? He said he planned on making a decision a few weeks after the season was over.

 

I thought he should have retired prior to last year. Now, I think he should come back for one more year. The Packers might be good enough to earn a playoff spot next year. Lots of money to spend.

 

He hasn't announced yet. If he comes back next year, I'm fairly confident that we're a playoff team next year, and that's without adding anybody new. Our defense nearly finished in the top 10 at the end of the year and right now, our only weakness on defense is at one of the safety positions. We can easily find a safety, be it through FA or the draft. We do have nearly $30 million in cap room to work with to help add some offensive skill players for Favre to work with (if he does come back).

 

My guess is that Favre will wait a couple more weeks to see what direction Thompson and McCarthy decide to go in. If they promise Favre that they will go after Moss or someone of that nature, he'll come back. If they don't, I'm not sure what he'll do. We didn't add much in the offseason last year and he decided to come back, so who knows?

 

You still start Brady Popinga, and I'm not sold on Cullen Jenkins (or KGB), plus there is no depth in the secondary. If anything were to happen to Woodson or Al Harris, the replacement (Dendy?) would get abused. I would worry about the regression of Greg Jennings (though he was banged up) and the running back position, Green isn't getting younger and Morency is a back-up. Plus Kurt Schottenheimer is still your secondary coach. The Packers finished strong, but I think they have some work to do to be considered a playoff team.

 

We put KGB back to a pass rusher only the final four weeks of the season and it worked. He played the best he has since his first year in the league when he came in by storm. Cullen Jenkins really played well as a DE. You're right about our corners. We do need to add a nickelback because we don't have much depth there. A lot of mock drafts have us landing Lynch at 16, so that would end our RB situation. But I do believe that Green still has a couple more years in him and that him and Morency are a solid 1-2 punch. I'm not worried about Jennings either. He had a great year up until he got hurt.

 

We missed our chance on getting Tim Lewis as our secondary coach. Big mistake on our part. Schottenheimer is one of the worst secondary coaches in the league and easily our weak link in our coaching staff.

 

But I really do think that at the end of the season, we showed what we can do next season if we can just make a few upgrades as a whole.

 

Any word on extensions for Nick Barnett or Al Harris up there? I get the feeling one of those guys will be moved like Javon Walker was. If I had to guess I would say Barnett won't be a Packer next year because he has been involved in a few off the field incidents (not a Packer Person), and they have Hodge behind him.

 

I hope we use all of the cap room that we have on at least signing them both to new deals. Harris is supposed to get a new deal this offseason; Barnett, I'm not so sure about.

[imb]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

 

Calm down.

 

Someone mentioned Gallery in conjunction with Thomas, being that Gallery rated higher than Thomas is likely to, and still bombed.

 

You said you didn't know anything about Gallery, but that Thomas would be a "force for 10+ years". I gave you a little info on Gallery, and somehow you took offense.

 

I'm very calm, what implied that I wasn't? In what way did I take offense? I asked a legitimate question about how Thomas is more like Gallory than any other player in this draft is like a former bust at the same position. Still waiting for an answer.

 

The question is "how is he different?". And you won't know the answer for awhile, ala Gallery. You said Thomas was a sure thing and that you didnt know anything about Gallery, so I filled in some blanks for you, it's as simple as that, I don't know what synapse is taking a nap and keeping you from figuring this out.

[CP_414]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

 

Calm down.

 

Someone mentioned Gallery in conjunction with Thomas, being that Gallery rated higher than Thomas is likely to, and still bombed.

 

You said you didn't know anything about Gallery, but that Thomas would be a "force for 10+ years". I gave you a little info on Gallery, and somehow you took offense.

 

I'm very calm, what implied that I wasn't? In what way did I take offense? I asked a legitimate question about how Thomas is more like Gallory than any other player in this draft is like a former bust at the same position. Still waiting for an answer.

 

The question is "how is he different?". And you won't know the answer for awhile, ala Gallery. You said Thomas was a sure thing and that you didnt know anything about Gallery, so I filled in some blanks for you, it's as simple as that, I don't know what synapse is taking a nap and keeping you from figuring this out.

 

I said Thomas is the safest bet in this draft TO ME, and I think he is going to be a great player for years to come. I am basing that on watching every game he played for the last two years and knowing a lot about his work ethic, and the type of person he is fom people who know him very very well. I have no idea what type of work ethic Gallory has. Why are you so dense that you do not understand what I am saying? How are the Thomas/Gallory compairisons valid? Because they were both highly ranked linemen? Well then like I said earlier we could do that for every single player in this draft.

 

What synapse is taking a nap in your head, and keeping you from figuring this out smart guy?

[imb]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

 

Calm down.

 

Someone mentioned Gallery in conjunction with Thomas, being that Gallery rated higher than Thomas is likely to, and still bombed.

 

You said you didn't know anything about Gallery, but that Thomas would be a "force for 10+ years". I gave you a little info on Gallery, and somehow you took offense.

 

I'm very calm, what implied that I wasn't? In what way did I take offense? I asked a legitimate question about how Thomas is more like Gallory than any other player in this draft is like a former bust at the same position. Still waiting for an answer.

 

The question is "how is he different?". And you won't know the answer for awhile, ala Gallery. You said Thomas was a sure thing and that you didnt know anything about Gallery, so I filled in some blanks for you, it's as simple as that, I don't know what synapse is taking a nap and keeping you from figuring this out.

 

I said Thomas is the safest bet in this draft TO ME, and I think he is going to be a great player for years to come. I am basing that on watching every game he played for the last two years and knowing a lot about his work ethic, and the type of person he is fom people who know him very very well. I have no idea what type of work ethic Gallory has. Why are you so dense that you do not understand what I am saying? How are the Thomas/Gallory compairisons valid? Because they were both highly ranked linemen? Well then like I said earlier we could do that for every single player in this draft.

 

What synapse is taking a nap in your head, and keeping you from figuring this out smart guy?

 

Take it easy, you said you didn't know anything about Gallery, so I helped you out. The same things you're saying about Thomas were said about Gallery, and then some. I'm just pointing out something, that's all.

[dew1679666265]

Colt Brennan withdraws from the 2007 draft.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2734347

 

Excellent decision. He will likely be in or near the top five Heisman candidates preseason and should be guaranteed a first round selection next year if he repeats his numbers.

 

I think that's highly debatable. Brohm, Ainge, Henne, and Booty are all likely to go ahead of him. The last spread QB taken in the first round was Losman and he's been very mediocre in the pros, not leading a lot of credence to spread offense QB's translating their collegiate success to the pro game.

 

A lot will depend on team needs (how many QBs go in the first round) and who declares/has a good season.

Assuming Brennan repeats, he'll be behind Brohm for sure. Henne and Ainge are potentially susceptible to having less than standout years. Henne I'm not completely sold on (a lot of that offense seems to be Mike Hart) and Ainge will be without a true threat at receiver for the early portion of the year with our three top receivers leaving and the current crop talented but all with a year or less of experience. Also, I don't think its a guarantee Booty leaves early.

Brennan could be anywhere from the second to the fifth QB taken.

 

Minor detail but Booty will be a senior next year so he won't have the option of leaving early.

 

You and your annoying technicalities. :lol:

I (obviously) thought Booty was a sophomore this past year and would therefore be a junior in the upcoming season.

Since he is coming out then, I put him about where Ainge is. Meaning he could be the first QB or the third-fourth QB taken. A lot depends on the season he has. The main thing going for Booty is that he's much more likely to have a great year than Ainge because he's got more talent around him.

[dew1679666265]

This could be interesting. Could Quinn/Russell/Johnson end up in Atlanta?

 

The Raiders are preparing to make a run at Michael Vick, according to NFL sources. The Raiders package would include receivers Randy Moss and Jerry Porter plus the No.1 overall pick in the 2007 draft for Vick and the Falcons first round pick (10th overall).

 

If this deal happens, I don't see any way the Falcons go for a QB with the 1st pick. They've got Schaub who is the reason they might trade Vick in the first place.

My guess if the trade happens as has been discussed: Falcons take Joe Thomas with the first pick because their o-line is awful and the Raiders take Ginn/Jarrett/Meachem/whoever they like at receiver.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

If this deal happens, I don't see any way the Falcons go for a QB with the 1st pick. They've got Schaub who is the reason they might trade Vick in the first place.

My guess if the trade happens as has been discussed: Falcons take Joe Thomas with the first pick because their o-line is awful and the Raiders take Ginn/Jarrett/Meachem/whoever they like at receiver.

I thought about this too. The only way I could see the Falcons possibly taking a QB would be if Brohm had declared. I could see Petrino wanting him to be their future quarterback. But that's all null and void since he's going back to Louisville.

[CP_414]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

 

Calm down.

 

Someone mentioned Gallery in conjunction with Thomas, being that Gallery rated higher than Thomas is likely to, and still bombed.

 

You said you didn't know anything about Gallery, but that Thomas would be a "force for 10+ years". I gave you a little info on Gallery, and somehow you took offense.

 

I'm very calm, what implied that I wasn't? In what way did I take offense? I asked a legitimate question about how Thomas is more like Gallory than any other player in this draft is like a former bust at the same position. Still waiting for an answer.

 

The question is "how is he different?". And you won't know the answer for awhile, ala Gallery. You said Thomas was a sure thing and that you didnt know anything about Gallery, so I filled in some blanks for you, it's as simple as that, I don't know what synapse is taking a nap and keeping you from figuring this out.

 

I said Thomas is the safest bet in this draft TO ME, and I think he is going to be a great player for years to come. I am basing that on watching every game he played for the last two years and knowing a lot about his work ethic, and the type of person he is fom people who know him very very well. I have no idea what type of work ethic Gallory has. Why are you so dense that you do not understand what I am saying? How are the Thomas/Gallory compairisons valid? Because they were both highly ranked linemen? Well then like I said earlier we could do that for every single player in this draft.

 

What synapse is taking a nap in your head, and keeping you from figuring this out smart guy?

 

Take it easy, you said you didn't know anything about Gallery, so I helped you out. The same things you're saying about Thomas were said about Gallery, and then some. I'm just pointing out something, that's all.

 

Don't instigate by being an idiot and then tell me to calm down when I reply. Again you don't answer my question. I assume you have no answer, and there is no evidence at all that Thomas is more like Gallery than any other player in this draft is like any other former bust at the same position. I based my OPINION of Thomas on knowledge from watching him play every game for the last few years and what I heard from someone very close to him. That person is a former longtime NFL offensive lineman who trains with Thomas in the offseason and says Thomas has the raw talent of a Boselli (sp?) and the best work ethic he has ever seen. Anyway, it is apparent you have nothing to add, so I'm done with this debate. Good day.

[Guest]

That better not be true. I want the Packers to get in on the Moss bidding in the offseason.

 

If it is true, ATL would be REALLY dumb to not do that deal. The last couple of years, I thought that Schaub was a better QB than Vick anyway, so imagine this offense: Schaub, Dunn/Norwood, Moss, Porter, Lelie, White, Jenkins, Crumpler. You go from having too many #3/#4 wideouts to having probably the deepest WR corps in the league. That would be a REAL scary team next year.

 

Has Favre announced his intentions for next year, yet? He said he planned on making a decision a few weeks after the season was over.

 

I thought he should have retired prior to last year. Now, I think he should come back for one more year. The Packers might be good enough to earn a playoff spot next year. Lots of money to spend.

 

No word yet...

 

No word, yet, because Favre hasn't talk to his advisor's yet. I mean he hasn't gotten ahold of Roger Clemens, to see how they are planning to "string out" their respectives "will he/won't he" storylines. They HAVE to get their stories straight.

[BigbadB]

Maybe Favre meant 2 weeks after the entire season was over, including playoffs?

 

Maybe NFL asked Favre to wait until the entire season was over so as not to take away from the playoffs?

 

Favre retiring would be a pretty big story. Staying another year, not as much. But, I was expecting to hear by now one way or another.

 

Favre definitely gave indications that he wouldn't put the Packers in an awkward position by waiting too long to decide on his future.

[CP_414]

Maybe Favre meant 2 weeks after the entire season was over, including playoffs?

 

Maybe NFL asked Favre to wait until the entire season was over so as not to take away from the playoffs?

 

Favre retiring would be a pretty big story. Staying another year, not as much. But, I was expecting to hear by now one way or another.

 

Favre definitely gave indications that he wouldn't put the Packers in an awkward position by waiting too long to decide on his future.

 

Yeah, I think/hope Favre is done. Last season Favre told the Packers he was done right after the last game, but they told him to take more time and think about it. Then he told them again about a month later he was done, and again they told him to take more time. Eventually he finally decided to come back. After watching him the last game, I think it's all over, thankfully (for us Bears fans). There hasn't been any real news since, just minor indications that it might be over for him, like him cancelling his country club membership in Green Bay. We'll see....eventually.

[imb]

You said Joe Thomas would be a force for 10+ years, that's the same as saying "sure thing".

 

This is a stupid argument, as I think Joe Thomas will probably be a hell of a player for a long time. It's just that he and Gallery are comparable, and Gallery bombed.

 

Well then why even pay any attention to the draft? I mean why would a Raider fan want Brady Quinn because other QB's have bombed, or why would they want Calvin Johnson because Charles Rodgers bombed with the Lions, we could go on and on. What makes him and Gallary more comparable than Johnson and Rodgers? Or Quinn and Ryan Leaf?

 

Calm down.

 

Someone mentioned Gallery in conjunction with Thomas, being that Gallery rated higher than Thomas is likely to, and still bombed.

 

You said you didn't know anything about Gallery, but that Thomas would be a "force for 10+ years". I gave you a little info on Gallery, and somehow you took offense.

 

I'm very calm, what implied that I wasn't? In what way did I take offense? I asked a legitimate question about how Thomas is more like Gallory than any other player in this draft is like a former bust at the same position. Still waiting for an answer.

 

The question is "how is he different?". And you won't know the answer for awhile, ala Gallery. You said Thomas was a sure thing and that you didnt know anything about Gallery, so I filled in some blanks for you, it's as simple as that, I don't know what synapse is taking a nap and keeping you from figuring this out.

 

I said Thomas is the safest bet in this draft TO ME, and I think he is going to be a great player for years to come. I am basing that on watching every game he played for the last two years and knowing a lot about his work ethic, and the type of person he is fom people who know him very very well. I have no idea what type of work ethic Gallory has. Why are you so dense that you do not understand what I am saying? How are the Thomas/Gallory compairisons valid? Because they were both highly ranked linemen? Well then like I said earlier we could do that for every single player in this draft.

 

What synapse is taking a nap in your head, and keeping you from figuring this out smart guy?

 

Take it easy, you said you didn't know anything about Gallery, so I helped you out. The same things you're saying about Thomas were said about Gallery, and then some. I'm just pointing out something, that's all.

 

Don't instigate by being an idiot and then tell me to calm down when I reply. Again you don't answer my question. I assume you have no answer, and there is no evidence at all that Thomas is more like Gallery than any other player in this draft is like any other former bust at the same position. I based my OPINION of Thomas on knowledge from watching him play every game for the last few years and what I heard from someone very close to him. That person is a former longtime NFL offensive lineman who trains with Thomas in the offseason and says Thomas has the raw talent of a Boselli (sp?) and the best work ethic he has ever seen. Anyway, it is apparent you have nothing to add, so I'm done with this debate. Good day.

 

I don't think you have followed this conversation very well at all. What did I say again that was untrue?

[Mark Priors Calves]

why is robert gallery bad? what happened to him?

[YearofDaCubs]

why is robert gallery bad? what happened to him?

He was playing so bad at tackle I believe they moved him to guard at one point. For some reason he hasn't panned out at either tackle position. It could be a mental issue with him, who knows.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

why is robert gallery bad? what happened to him?

 

Coaching carousel (bad coaches), nagging injuries. I haven't given up on him.

[soccer10k]

This could be interesting. Could Quinn/Russell/Johnson end up in Atlanta?

 

The Raiders are preparing to make a run at Michael Vick, according to NFL sources. The Raiders package would include receivers Randy Moss and Jerry Porter plus the No.1 overall pick in the 2007 draft for Vick and the Falcons first round pick (10th overall).

 

The Falcons have said that they have no plans to trade Vick.

 

Link

 

Good because this means that horrible deal Foxsports reported won't go through.