Cubs Sign Marquis to 3/21

[TruffleShuffle]

why wouldnt you want Baldelli? :?

 

The odds of him putting up numbers like he did last season are very small, and the cost of acquiring him would be very high.

 

He's 24 years old... I don't see why it's unlikely that his natural progression as a young player couldn't balance out the loss of some of that luck it seemed he had last year.

 

As for the price, it would definitely be high, but you're acquiring a guy who projects to be the CF of the future. Not saying I'd trade major league resources (like Hill), but I'd have to consider giving up players like Pie and Veal.

[ThePenguin11]

why wouldnt you want Baldelli? :?

 

The odds of him putting up numbers like he did last season are very small, and the cost of acquiring him would be very high.

 

He put those numbers up in half a season. How could he not match them again? You could argue that he could nearly double them in a complete season, could you not???

[cubs121]

why wouldnt you want Baldelli? :?

 

The odds of him putting up numbers like he did last season are very small, and the cost of acquiring him would be very high.

 

He put those numbers up in half a season. How could he not match them again? You could argue that he could nearly double them in a complete season, could you not???

and isnt he young?

[Rob]

why wouldnt you want Baldelli? :?

 

The odds of him putting up numbers like he did last season are very small, and the cost of acquiring him would be very high.

 

He put those numbers up in half a season. How could he not match them again? You could argue that he could nearly double them in a complete season, could you not???

 

Sorry, I look at rate stats.

 

I have a hard time believing he's going to sustain a .533 slugging percentage. That's a .097 jump from the season before, which is pretty huge for a CF. Although, he's getting significantly worse covering CF, so maybe he's packed on the muscle... I'm not sure.

 

He'll get better than he was in 05, I'm fairly certain. I just don't believe his jump last season was indicative of a real progression, and I'd rather not pay an outrageous price for him based on that.

 

I'm not a Baldelli hater, by any means. I think he's a solid player... I just don't think he's as good as advertised... which means he wont be worth the cost.

[Brian]

this deal is going to happen, it's inevitable. Just like Burnitz and Jones were inevitable, Marquis is this years much rumored horrible signing that will eventually become official.

[YearofDaCubs]

why wouldnt you want Baldelli? :?

 

The odds of him putting up numbers like he did last season are very small, and the cost of acquiring him would be very high.

 

He put those numbers up in half a season. How could he not match them again? You could argue that he could nearly double them in a complete season, could you not???

 

Sorry, I look at rate stats.

 

I have a hard time believing he's going to sustain a .533 slugging percentage. That's a .097 jump from the season before, which is pretty huge for a CF. Although, he's getting significantly worse covering CF, so maybe he's packed on the muscle... I'm not sure.

 

He'll get better than he was in 05, I'm fairly certain. I just don't believe his jump last season was indicative of a real progression, and I'd rather not pay an outrageous price for him based on that.

 

I'm not a Baldelli hater, by any means. I think he's a solid player... I just don't think he's as good as advertised... which means he wont be worth the cost.

I think Baldelli is going to be a good one. He missed all of 2005 due to a torn ACL so maybe that has something to do with his fielding too. He's fairly young and hasn't played that much. I think he has a lot of upside but I just don't know if the Cubs have anything to offer to get him from the DRays.

[NewUserName]

this deal is going to happen, it's inevitable. Just like Burnitz and Jones were inevitable, Marquis is this years much rumored horrible signing that will eventually become official.

 

 

I really cannot believe that we are even considering this guy. I would much rather go with any of the assortment of young arms that we used last year than Jason Marquis.

[SAMMYWHO]

why wouldnt you want Baldelli? :?

 

The odds of him putting up numbers like he did last season are very small, and the cost of acquiring him would be very high.

 

He put those numbers up in half a season. How could he not match them again? You could argue that he could nearly double them in a complete season, could you not???

 

Sorry, I look at rate stats.

 

I have a hard time believing he's going to sustain a .533 slugging percentage. That's a .097 jump from the season before, which is pretty huge for a CF. Although, he's getting significantly worse covering CF, so maybe he's packed on the muscle... I'm not sure.

 

He'll get better than he was in 05, I'm fairly certain. I just don't believe his jump last season was indicative of a real progression, and I'd rather not pay an outrageous price for him based on that.

 

I'm not a Baldelli hater, by any means. I think he's a solid player... I just don't think he's as good as advertised... which means he wont be worth the cost.

I think Baldelli is going to be a good one. He missed all of 2005 due to a torn ACL so maybe that has something to do with his fielding too. He's fairly young and hasn't played that much. I think he has a lot of upside but I just don't know if the Cubs have anything to offer to get him from the DRays.

 

I think it's a match made in heaven. They can't develop pitching and that's all we can develop. Let's swap out strength for strength. I'd offer Marshall, Ryu and one other guy that didn't impress as much at the bigs last year like Mateo or O'Malley.

[TruffleShuffle]

I think it's a match made in heaven. They can't develop pitching and that's all we can develop. Let's swap out strength for strength. I'd offer Marshall, Ryu and one other guy that didn't impress as much at the bigs last year like Mateo or O'Malley.

 

Yeah that's a start, now throw in some good players and they'd probably be interested.

[Mizzou]

I don't see the point in signing another starter, but if Hendry is going to, then I would prefer that he sign Marquis.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

I wouldnt cry if we got him, but Church would probably just as productive, has much better patience, is left-handed, and would come at a much, much lower price.

 

My sentiments exactly.

 

Baldelli to me is nothing special.

 

Church could probably match or even best his production for much, much less.

[ManCrushOnNomar]

One thing to be said - if we end up carrying 12 pitchers like we have the past few years, this gives us the flexibility of having another pinch hitter on his offdays.

 

*trying to find some shred of light*

[Mizzou]

This can't possibly be true...

 

Since he lost out on Gil Meche, he will pursue Plan B, which is Jason Marquis. Marquis pitched for the Cardinals last year going 14-16 with a 6.02 ERA and 96 K. Over the past three years with the Cardinals, Marquis has gone 42-37 with a 4.62 ERA in 602.2 innings. The intial offer to Marquis was reportedly a three year deal worth 28-30 million dollars.

 

http://www.mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Seriously? Paging a sports agent.

 

I am now willing to suit up again. I figure you're going to have to start in the 4/20 range to get my attention, and I'd be well worth the money compared to some of these other contracts.

[abuck1220]

This can't possibly be true...

 

Since he lost out on Gil Meche, he will pursue Plan B, which is Jason Marquis. Marquis pitched for the Cardinals last year going 14-16 with a 6.02 ERA and 96 K. Over the past three years with the Cardinals, Marquis has gone 42-37 with a 4.62 ERA in 602.2 innings. The intial offer to Marquis was reportedly a three year deal worth 28-30 million dollars.

 

http://www.mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/

 

that's ridiculous. i don't even know if he deserves a guaranteed contract.

[SouthSideRyan]

This can't possibly be true...

 

Since he lost out on Gil Meche, he will pursue Plan B, which is Jason Marquis. Marquis pitched for the Cardinals last year going 14-16 with a 6.02 ERA and 96 K. Over the past three years with the Cardinals, Marquis has gone 42-37 with a 4.62 ERA in 602.2 innings. The intial offer to Marquis was reportedly a three year deal worth 28-30 million dollars.

 

http://www.mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/

 

I don't like to speak in absolutes but there is absolutely no way that is true.

[Mizzou]

This can't possibly be true...

 

Since he lost out on Gil Meche, he will pursue Plan B, which is Jason Marquis. Marquis pitched for the Cardinals last year going 14-16 with a 6.02 ERA and 96 K. Over the past three years with the Cardinals, Marquis has gone 42-37 with a 4.62 ERA in 602.2 innings. The intial offer to Marquis was reportedly a three year deal worth 28-30 million dollars.

 

http://www.mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/

 

that's ridiculous. i don't even know if he deserves a guaranteed contract.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm all for signing him. I think he'd be a great gamble. But any GM who gives him that kind of contract is just... well, I don't even know what to call it.

[BigbadB]

Plan B?

 

Not by my calculations:

 

Plan A- Jason Schmidt

Plan B- Barry Zito

Plan C- Tim Hudson

Plan D- Dontrelle Willis

Plan E- Jason Jennings

Plan F- Jake Westbrook

Plan G- Jeff Suppan

Plan H- Ted Lilly

Plan I- Gil Meche

Plan J- Greg Maddux

Plan K- Angel Guzman

Plan L- Carlos Marmol

Plan M- Shawn Marshall

Plan N- Juan Mateo

Plan O- Any warm body I forgot to list other than Jason Marquis

Plan Z- Jason Marquis

[RammyFanny]

I doubt those numbers are anything to worry about, if you click their source this is all that mentions Marquis in the article:

According to sources, Hendry, 51, had not been feeling well for the past couple of days as he engaged in negotiations with the agents for free-agent pitchers Ted Lilly, Gil Meche and Jason Marquis.

Seems like their numbers are just speculation (which is stupid).

[Guest]

I'm all for signing Marquis to a disposable contract. If that isn't the case, then I'm completely against him.

[E.J.]

I'm all for signing Marquis to a disposable contract. If that isn't the case, then I'm completely against him.

 

Is Marquis really worth the time though? Don't we already have cheaper versions in-house, and shouldn't we be looking for a starting pitcher who slots a little higher in the pitching rotation? Just seems like a waste of time to me. Marquis is never going to be better than a #4 pitcher, at best, and we already have enough #4 and #5 pitchers on this team.

[Guest]

I'm all for signing Marquis to a disposable contract. If that isn't the case, then I'm completely against him.

 

Is Marquis really worth the money though? Don't we already have cheaper versions in-house, and shouldn't we be looking for a starting pitcher who slots a little higher in the pitching rotation? Just seems like a waste of time to me. Marquis is never going to be better than a #4 pitcher, at best, and we already have enough #4 and #5 pitchers on this team.

It's a non-young guy, non-health risk pitcher we can reliably throw out there if nobody else pans out in ST. If others prove ready to perform, we can either DFA or trade him if he's signed to the right contract.

 

If he's not willing to sign that type of contract, I'm not interested.

[cubs121]

hey how about we sign him just to pinch hit?. I seriously dont wanna see him pitch for the Cubs.

[E.J.]

I'm all for signing Marquis to a disposable contract. If that isn't the case, then I'm completely against him.

 

Is Marquis really worth the money though? Don't we already have cheaper versions in-house, and shouldn't we be looking for a starting pitcher who slots a little higher in the pitching rotation? Just seems like a waste of time to me. Marquis is never going to be better than a #4 pitcher, at best, and we already have enough #4 and #5 pitchers on this team.

It's a non-young guy, non-health risk pitcher we can reliably throw out there if nobody else pans out in ST. If others prove ready to perform, we can either DFA or trade him if he's signed to the right contract.

 

If he's not willing to sign that type of contract, I'm not interested.

 

I'm just worried Hendry is going to give him a guaranteed contract that's worth a couple million more than we'd all hope for. Someone is going to give him a decent contract next year with there not being much on the market, and I'm just hoping it's not us.

[jjgman21]

Plan B?

 

Not by my calculations:

 

Plan A- Jason Schmidt

Plan B- Barry Zito

Plan C- Tim Hudson

Plan D- Dontrelle Willis

Plan E- Jason Jennings

Plan F- Jake Westbrook

Plan G- Jeff Suppan

Plan H- Ted Lilly

Plan I- Gil Meche

Plan J- Greg Maddux

Plan K- Angel Guzman

Plan L- Carlos Marmol

Plan M- Shawn Marshall

Plan N- Juan Mateo

Plan O- Any warm body I forgot to list other than Jason Marquis

Plan Z- Jason Marquis

 

Plan A- obviously wanted to play on West Coast

Plan B- will sign a contract that will burn the team he signs with

Plan C- don't have the chips

Plan D- don't have the chips

Plan E- Jason Jennings

Plan F- had the chips until the Indians signed FAs. no longer have the chips

Plan G- never sign an ex-Cardinal. they all fail after leaving StL

Plan H- got him

Plan I- Gil Meche

Plan J- Greg Maddux

Plan K- Angel Guzman

Plan L- Carlos Marmol

Plan M- Shawn Marshall

Plan N- Juan Mateo

Plan O- Any warm body I forgot to list other than Jason Marquis

Plan Z- Jason Marquis

 

there has to be some other letters. Z is waaaay to high for Jason Marquis. btw, Padilla has to fit in there somewhere. would have been my plan A.