Cubs sign DeRosa for 3 yrs/$13M

[cl smooth]

I think this move might not be that bad if the proper moves are made from here on out. DeRosa can help a team in the right role.

 

this move is not that good since you overpay a player of his abilities (or lack thereof)...money that could've been diverted to a bigger signing like soriano or zito or one of the top-tier free agents.

[goonys evil twin]

Why 3 years? Was there really a market out there for him that they had to go 3 years?

 

When they come out of the organizational meetings with their eye on somebody, they do whatever they can to tie him up quickly.

 

Too bad the silly goofs never put their eye on anybody who can help the team get better.

 

I think this move might not be that bad if the proper moves are made from here on out. DeRosa can help a team in the right role.

 

He can also hurt the team if you can't figure out what that right role is.

[HoopsCubs]

Dave Kaplan (WGN Radio 720) is refering to DeRosa as the Cubs new "Starting 2nd Baseman".

 

Yuck.

[Guest]

another angle is - is he better than theriot, fontenot, cedeno . . .?

 

This would be a terrible move if Jim subsequently balks at going up a couple million for Drew because of this contract. I'll wait and see what happens - comparing DeRosa to Macias is pretty silly though.

[erik316wttn]

I think this is a safety net for potentially moving Jones before you sign/trade for his replacement so that the FA/trading team can't hold Hendry hostage.

 

Ideally DeRosa has a small part on this team. And he's better than macias/neifi.

 

If Hendry's only goal was "get someone better than Neifi", it was a pretty piss-poor goal.

[USSoccer]

he does pummel lefties though. as a platoon partner and bench player, he isn't a terrible option. as a starter, he is awful. if you pair him with durham and platoon jones, this could be a good move.

 

A $4.3m platoon player/utility guy? That's crazy talk.

 

We overpaid for mediocrity again. It's a good thing the payroll is higher.

[Guest]

Why 3 years? Was there really a market out there for him that they had to go 3 years?

 

When they come out of the organizational meetings with their eye on somebody, they do whatever they can to tie him up quickly.

 

Too bad the silly goofs never put their eye on anybody who can help the team get better.

 

I think this move might not be that bad if the proper moves are made from here on out. DeRosa can help a team in the right role.

 

He can also hurt the team if you can't figure out what that right role is.

 

I agree. If he is the starting 2b against righties, he is a liability.

[SouthSideRyan]

Mark DeRosa would be a good guy to sign for a bench role at @ 1 mill/year or less. But at 4 million for three years, and as a started he is not a significant upgrade.

 

I don't like the pattern this signing is showing, but 1M or less for DeRosa would be robbery.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

This just smacks of a typical Hendry signing. Overpay for a guy that no one else values nearly as much as him. Makes no sense whatsoever (given the years/$$$)

 

There were numerous articles over the last few weeks predicting DeRosa would get a deal like this from whatever team he would sign for, so I don't think it's very accurate to think the Cubs were the only team interested, bidding against themselves.

 

I don't recall any such articles, do you have a link to any of them?

 

Just run a search on the internet. Here's the one I remember from earlier this week. I can't begin to recall the specific news paper web sites from the daily blogosphere bouncing.

 

Olney earlier in the week

 

The free portion of that blog doesn't say anything except that DeRosa is looking for a raise after a career year. A quick google news search didn't pull up anything regarding DeRosa having multiple teams interested, or anything approaching the deal he's going to get.

[erik316wttn]

he does pummel lefties though. as a platoon partner and bench player, he isn't a terrible option. as a starter, he is awful. if you pair him with durham and platoon jones, this could be a good move.

 

A $4.3m platoon player/utility guy? That's crazy talk.

 

We overpaid for mediocrity again. It's a good thing the payroll is higher.

 

With Jones likely coming back down to earth this year, that could be 3 easy outs in the 7-8-9 spots.

 

Helloooo, struggling offense!

[Guest]

he does pummel lefties though. as a platoon partner and bench player, he isn't a terrible option. as a starter, he is awful. if you pair him with durham and platoon jones, this could be a good move.

 

A $4.3m platoon player/utility guy? That's crazy talk.

 

We overpaid for mediocrity again. It's a good thing the payroll is higher.

 

that's why I say lets see what happens. I only care about this contract if it prevents the cubs from signing someone else.

[Omar]

So after signing Ramirez, Wood, DeRosa, and Miller... what's left on the said "$115 million" payrol? Edited November 14, 2006 by Omar

[CuseCubFan69]

he does pummel lefties though. as a platoon partner and bench player, he isn't a terrible option. as a starter, he is awful. if you pair him with durham and platoon jones, this could be a good move.

 

A $4.3m platoon player/utility guy? That's crazy talk.

 

We overpaid for mediocrity again. It's a good thing the payroll is higher.

 

It's Perez and Macias all over again.

[goonys evil twin]

another angle is - is he better than theriot, fontenot, cedeno . . .?

 

This would be a terrible move if Jim subsequently balks at going up a couple million for Drew because of this contract. I'll wait and see what happens - comparing DeRosa to Macias is pretty silly though.

 

DeRosa's 2004 was as bad as anything Macias has done. And I was talking about the pointless idea of valuing a guy who plays 6 positions just because he plays 6 positions. DeRosa is a better baseball player than Macias, he's also capable of being just as bad in any given year. And like Macias, he's grossly overpaid. He makes over 400% more than Jose, but certainly isn't 400% better.

[Danny82]

DeRosa batted .200 in his final 100 at bats last year with 1 HR..... way to overpay him Hendry

 

Since when is a player's last 100 at bats an effective way to judge how much he should be making?

 

 

Since when are his last 520 AB's an effective way to judge how much he should be making?

I think it is quite obvious that one alternative is better than the other. Not saying that 520 is ideal, but it's sure a heck of a lot better than 100.

[YearofDaCubs]

I don't like this move. I would rather have Giles or Lugo myself. A guy has one good year signs a contract and is a bust the next 3. I don't like this one bit.

[USSoccer]

he does pummel lefties though. as a platoon partner and bench player, he isn't a terrible option. as a starter, he is awful. if you pair him with durham and platoon jones, this could be a good move.

 

A $4.3m platoon player/utility guy? That's crazy talk.

 

We overpaid for mediocrity again. It's a good thing the payroll is higher.

 

It's Perez and Macias all over again.

 

We're actually paying DeRosa a little more than what we paid both Macias and Perez in 2005.

 

And being able to play 6 different positions is useless if you're bad at all 6. I could play 6 different positions (badly), do I deserve this kind of deal?

[CuseCubFan69]

Mr. Hendry better get Drew now because the Cubs need him now more than ever.

 

Maybe Hendry is building the roster up for a big trade?

[fromthestretch]

This just smacks of a typical Hendry signing. Overpay for a guy that no one else values nearly as much as him. Makes no sense whatsoever (given the years/$$$)

 

There were numerous articles over the last few weeks predicting DeRosa would get a deal like this from whatever team he would sign for, so I don't think it's very accurate to think the Cubs were the only team interested, bidding against themselves.

 

I don't recall any such articles, do you have a link to any of them?

 

Just run a search on the internet. Here's the one I remember from earlier this week. I can't begin to recall the specific news paper web sites from the daily blogosphere bouncing.

 

Olney earlier in the week

 

The free portion of that blog doesn't say anything except that DeRosa is looking for a raise after a career year. A quick google news search didn't pull up anything regarding DeRosa having multiple teams interested, or anything approaching the deal he's going to get.

 

DeRosa made $675,000 in 2006. $1.5 million would have been a raise. He isn't worth $4 mil per year.

[YearofDaCubs]

There goes my high hopes for the offseason....

Same ol Hendry... Jeez what a terrible move.

[TheDude]

I still want to wait and see the rest of the moves before judging this one in its entirety. Durham is 35 coming off a career year at 7 million, which means he is going to cash in probably around 9-10 million a year.

 

Durham is clearly the better option, but his money likely is cost prohibitive for the real target, whether its Soriano or any of a number of different pitchers.

 

I want to see how the OF and SP is settled before even considering the latest round of chicken little.

[Burtonbell]

He will be come the super Neifi Macias! Which means he will be overpaid and overrated by the organiza...Oh crap...to late...

 

This sucks...FREE THE RIOT!

[sonicdethmonkey0]

this is as good a time as any to change my avatar, i suppose

[goonys evil twin]

the latest round of chicken little.

 

This crap again?

[CuseCubFan69]

He will be come the super Neifi Macias! Which means he will be overpaid and overrated by the organiza...Oh crap...to late...

 

This sucks...FREE THE RIOT!

 

Well at least he will take up only one roster spot.