Matsuzaka: Red Sox Win w/ $51.1M Bid

[YearofDaCubs]

Have you guys seen these?

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xsptUfnhVcc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oPDGUzMzGts

 

 

He's nasty.

[1908]

The so-called posting process is expected to begin shortly after the World Series. Teams will have 40 days to submit bids to Commissioner Bud Selig's office, with the highest one being awarded a 30-day window to accomplish a deal with Matsuzaka, who is being represented by Scott Boras.

 

link http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-0610150205oct15,1,7260701.column?track=rss

 

forty days seems like an awful long time to gather bids. I wonder if he is right about that? Looks like this could drag out for a couple months before any team can officially have him under contract.

I suspect that's an error on the author's part. Teams should have 4 days to submit bids, not 40.

 

U.S.S. Mariner blog[/url]"]1. Japanese team notifies the Japanese Commissioner’s Office that they’ll let Ichiro be posted.

2. Japanese Commissioner notifies MLB.

3. MLB notifies all teams that Ichiro is available.

4. Teams have four days to submit a bid. The bid is how much they’ll pay the team not for the player but the chance to negotiate a contract with the player. The Mariners submit a bid of $12.5m.

5. The Japanese team, Orix, is told only of the highest bid amount. Here, it’s the Mariners at $12.5m.

6. The Japanese team has four days to accept or reject the winning bid.

7. They make a decision: If they accept, the winning team has 30 days to agree to a contract with the posted player. If they reject, no deal. They can’t then shop him to the second-highest bidding team or anything.

 

In Ichiro’s case, Orix accepts the posting offer, and the Mariners begin discussing contract terms with Ichiro.

 

8. Then the player and the winning team negotiate, and one of two things happens:

 

If the winning team and player can come to an agreement, the player signs and reports to spring training next season, and the Japanese team gets the posting fee. The Mariners and Ichiro agreed, and he signed his original 2001 deal.

 

If the winning team and player can’t come to an agreement, the player returns to the team that controls his rights, and the Japanese team does not get the posting fee.

[1908]

Cubs need to get this guy. Bottom line.

 

They can make up alot of the bid $$$ in marketing/merchandise revenue.

 

Not really. Merchandise revenue is shared nearly equally among the teams, so there's little merchandising revenue to be gained.

 

The only marginal revenue oppornunities are higher TV ratings or the notion that a high profile signing will support higher ticket prices.

Would the Cubs get money from broadcasting games in Japan?

International TV revenue is split equally among the teams like merchandise revenue is.

[CubsWin]

1908 or anyone,

 

What do you think it will take to be the high bidder? If you ask me, the Cubs need to be the high bidder. I think this is priority number 1 this off season.

[Keener98]

If Ichiro was 12.5 mil, I submit a 15mil bid for him. If its not enough then that sucks but at least they tried.

[baseball7897]

Barry Zito

[Deeg]

I've seen speculation that it will take something in the $25-30 million range. Then, figure $9-10 million per for 3-4 years. And you know what? I suspect it will be a bargain.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

How much did Daisuke make in Japan last year?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Barry Zito

 

Why?

[baseball7897]

Barry Zito

 

Why?

 

Makes 30-35 starts a year, average 15 wins a year, eats up innings, .618 career winning %, 1.25 career WHIP, .232 career BAA, 3.55 career ERA.

[Soriano12]

Zito's resume is impressive no doubt.

 

However I think his post-A's career is gonna follow along the lines of Hudson

and Mulder.

[baseball7897]

Zito's resume is impressive no doubt.

 

However I think his post-A's career is gonna follow along the lines of Hudson

and Mulder.

 

Why do you think that?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Barry Zito

 

Why?

 

Makes 30-35 starts a year, average 15 wins a year, eats up innings, .618 career winning %, 1.25 career WHIP, .232 career BAA, 3.55 career ERA.

 

Schmidt seems to be just as good a choice. Matsusaka also seems to be just as good a choice. He's younger and appears to have great pitches.

[Soriano12]

Zito's resume is impressive no doubt.

 

However I think his post-A's career is gonna follow along the lines of Hudson

and Mulder.

 

Why do you think that?

 

I don't think his curve is as sharp as a few years back. Mediocre fastball.

 

I wouldn't mind him on the Cubs, but I would perfer Daisuke or Schmidt first.

[baseball7897]

Zito's resume is impressive no doubt.

 

However I think his post-A's career is gonna follow along the lines of Hudson

and Mulder.

 

Why do you think that?

 

I don't think his curve is as sharp as a few years back. Mediocre fastball.

 

I wouldn't mind him on the Cubs, but I would perfer Daisuke or Schmidt first.

 

His curveball is still the best in the league. Not sure why you think it is not as sharp? Zito locates his fastball pretty well. He dosent need to have a 95mph fastball to have success in the big leagues.

[Flames24Rulz]

Zito's resume is impressive no doubt.

 

However I think his post-A's career is gonna follow along the lines of Hudson

and Mulder.

 

Why do you think that?

 

I don't think his curve is as sharp as a few years back. Mediocre fastball.

 

I wouldn't mind him on the Cubs, but I would perfer Daisuke or Schmidt first.

 

Zito's control isn't the best either. He had close to 100 walks on the season.

 

I still like Zito, and I would take any of those three with no real preference towards either of them.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not gonna say no to Zito, but I'd much rather have Daisuke.

[Soriano12]

Zito's resume is impressive no doubt.

 

However I think his post-A's career is gonna follow along the lines of Hudson

and Mulder.

 

Why do you think that?

 

I don't think his curve is as sharp as a few years back. Mediocre fastball.

 

I wouldn't mind him on the Cubs, but I would perfer Daisuke or Schmidt first.

 

His curveball is still the best in the league.

 

Not for long.

http://www.skiltech.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000018/Hill-2-Thumb.jpg

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[Sammy Sofa]

Awwww, Rich even has the decency to not show up in an obnoxiously huge sig pic. What a sport!

[Soriano12]

Awwww, Rich even has the decency to not show up in an obnoxiously huge sig pic. What a sport!

 

edit..wow..that really jacked the page up.

 

http://pclbaseball.com.ismmedia.com/ISM2/FeaturedEntities/1137.jpeg

[Mephistopheles]

The Zito enthusiast might be interested in a little something I made awhile back.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/kctigers2323/Icons3/zito06302e04.png

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Zito vs Schmidt ERA +

 

2006

Zito: 116

Schmidt: 125

 

2005

Zito: 116

Schmidt: 94

 

2004

Zito: 104

Schmidt: 125

 

While Zito is more constient, Schmidt when good is better. Zito is a good pitcher, but he hasn't been a great pitcher in three years. Schmidt approaches great.

 

I'd take Matsusaka over all of them. Schmidt would be second. Zito third.

 

I think all would help make the Cubs better. I think Matsusaka and Schmidt are more likely to dominate and be better post-season pitchers.

[baseball7897]

Zito vs Schmidt ERA +

 

2006

Zito: 116

Schmidt: 125

 

2005

Zito: 116

Schmidt: 94

 

2004

Zito: 104

Schmidt: 125

 

While Zito is more constient, Schmidt when good is better. Zito is a good pitcher, but he hasn't been a great pitcher in three years. Schmidt approaches great.

 

I'd take Matsusaka over all of them. Schmidt would be second. Zito third.

 

I think all would help make the Cubs better. I think Matsusaka and Schmidt are more likely to dominate and be better post-season pitchers.

 

I know Hendry had interest in Zito the past couple of years according to Kaplan.

 

Schmdit's fastball was at 88mph at the end of the year. He is a power pitcher. He needs that 95mph fastball to have his greatest success in the big leagues. I dont think you can expect Schmidt to reach his 03-04 form again. Before those years, he was a average pitcher. Zito has always dominated hitters.

 

I think Daisuke Matsuzaka will have great success in the big leagues. Hitter's wont have a clue at first against him. Im not sure why kind of pitcher he is. Is he a power pitcher? Or is he a guy who locates all his pitches pretty well?

[Jazz]

Will the posting fee come out of this year budget of 115? If so, then Im guessing it will take all of that extra 15 mil just to try to contract him, how much will his actual contract be worth afterwards?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Will the posting fee come out of this year budget of 115?

 

I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess I'd say no.