Will ARod Become Available?

[Hosak8]

Well, it appears that the ARod postseason disaster continues, virtually assuring that he will be the most hated person in the Bronx. No way Steinbrenner and Cashman can conceivably have ARod back in 2007, is there?

 

Now, we've got our own worries with ARam. Is now the time to put together the deal, swapping ARam for ARod? I'm sure that a couple other guys could switch teams as well, but one for one sounds like it might work. I would of course want the Yankees to pick up some money, though how much could be left open for debate. Take Jones and call it even.

 

Any thought or anyone hearing any rumblings?

[sethuel1]

They're gonna ask for a ton for Arod. The rumor for the Angels was Figgins, Ervin Santana, and 3 prospects.

[Hosak8]

They're gonna ask for a ton for Arod. The rumor for the Angels was Figgins, Ervin Santana, and 3 prospects.

 

Honesty, I'm not buying that rumor. Who in their right mind would give up even half that much to get ARod? Sure, the ability is there... but that's not what the Yankees will have to consider. FIrst and foremost, the Yankees have to consider that ARod is a pariah, and that there is little to no hope for fans there to do anything but hate him. His career in New York is over, and every GM in baseball knws it. Cashman asks for anything close to that, and every other GM walks away, laughing in his face about the mess he has on his hands.

 

ARods value continues to plummet. Not because he isn't a great player, but because of how the New York fans and media will eat him alive.

[Mephistopheles]

im on the ganja tonight and cooking up this:

 

Marlins Get:

Christian Garcia

Tyler Clippard

Felix Pie

Matt Murton

 

Yankees Get:

Dontrelle Willis (or Miguel Cabrera if they put up another prospect)

Scott Moore

 

Cubs Get:

Alex Rodriguez

 

Maybe we'd give the Yankees someone else too...

[soccer10k]

This is great. Literally every out ARod makes decreases his trade value. Every single article written by the New York media drops his trade value a little bit. Every time John Kruk claims ARod threw his teammates under the bus (I still get a kick out of that), ARod's trade value decreases. It's great. I almost want the Yankees to advance just so ARod can have more 0-4 with 2 K games just to drop his trade value more.

 

But only almost. Go Tigers.

[SouthSideRyan]

I have little to add here besides Go Tigers and boo A-rod

 

But the line I'm on the ganja from kctigers who's posted almost exclusively great analytic content just cracked me up for some reason.

[A New Era]

im on the ganja tonight and cooking up this:

 

Marlins Get:

Christian Garcia

Tyler Clippard

Felix Pie

Matt Murton

 

Yankees Get:

Dontrelle Willis (or Miguel Cabrera if they put up another prospect)

Scott Moore

 

Cubs Get:

Alex Rodriguez

 

Maybe we'd give the Yankees someone else too...

 

You MUST be on the Ganja! What in the world do the Yankme's want Scott more for? Marlin's make out like made. If the Yankees get Cabrera and add Scott Moore to the Marlins, then I can see the Cubs getting Arod by giving up Murton, Pie, and Moore. Sure I could see that. Throw in one of the pitching prospects to give Florida more reason to do it.

[ondeckchamps]

"I didn't like him that well," Steinbrenner said matter-of-factly when asked what he thought of Rodriguez upon leaving the Stadium shortly after the Yankees loss yesterday.

 

 

 

Steinbrenner bidding him ado??? If tha Yankees lose this series A-rod is all but gone,probably to the Angels.

[NorthsideAvenger]

They're gonna ask for a ton for Arod. The rumor for the Angels was Figgins, Ervin Santana, and 3 prospects.

 

As Hosak mention, there is no way the Yankees are going to get that kind of package.

 

1: Even if the Yanks/Rangers are paying most of the remaining part of ARod's contract, how many teams are going to the room to take on ARod's contract. I understand his contract yearly (after the Yanks/Rangers picking up alot of it) still consists close to 10-12 mill per, not too many teams can handle that kind of "acquisition."

 

2: Then you have to consider the mandate that if Steinbrenner wants ARod gone, he and presumably Cashman will want ARod OUT OF THE AL, so that he has no chance at coming back and biting in the butt, at no worst then the World Series, which means, you are looking at an NL team as the best bet to inquire/acquire abotu ARod.

 

Now if you take both into consideration, there are about are about three teams that could fit into the catergory; the Dodgers, Rockies, and the Cubs. The Rockies have Troy T coming up, so they might not be all that interested. The Dodgers could acquire ARod, and then turn around and ship Furcal to another team as part of a three team trade. Or you have the Cubs, who could offer up a LEGITIMATE 3rd baseman and a coupe of solid young arms that might interests the Yankees.

 

I fully believe ARod will be moved, and I willing to bet that ARod will be coming to the NL, one way or another.

[A New Era]

First off. We'd have to SIGN A-ram (less you are talking about moore) before we trade him. Secondly. Signing someone then trading them = not cool.

 

Anyway. If the trib is serious in their hints that they want to win for the fans. Then A-rod is the type of move an org would do to make a huge splash. There's no promise of your sincerity to compete than signing someone like A-rod.

[WrigleyinEngland]

Is there any way we could keep Aram and aquire A-rod?? How would this lineup work financially?

 

CF Dave Roberts

LF Matt Murton

1B D-Lee

SS A Rod

3B A Ramirez

C Barrett

RF Jock/C Wilson

2B Cedeno/Riot/E Patt/Izturis

 

Or if we lost Aram/Traded him for A-rod

 

CF Dave Roberts

LF Matt Murton

1B D-Lee

SSA-Rod

2B Soriano

C Barrett

RF Jock/C Wilson

3B Izturis/S Moore

 

Just thinkin' out loud....

[Backtobanks]

im on the ganja tonight and cooking up this:

 

Marlins Get:

Christian Garcia

Tyler Clippard

Felix Pie

Matt Murton

 

Yankees Get:

Dontrelle Willis (or Miguel Cabrera if they put up another prospect)

Scott Moore

 

Cubs Get:

Alex Rodriguez

 

Maybe we'd give the Yankees someone else too...

 

You MUST be on the Ganja! What in the world do the Yankme's want Scott more for? Marlin's make out like made. If the Yankees get Cabrera and add Scott Moore to the Marlins, then I can see the Cubs getting Arod by giving up Murton, Pie, and Moore. Sure I could see that. Throw in one of the pitching prospects to give Florida more reason to do it.

 

I'd love to have Arod, but the new regime seems to want to win while developing for the future. Giving up Pie, Murton, and Moore means many more years of looking for free agent positional players without developing your own.

[shnsajax]

im on the ganja tonight and cooking up this:

 

Marlins Get:

Christian Garcia

Tyler Clippard

Felix Pie

Matt Murton

 

Yankees Get:

Dontrelle Willis (or Miguel Cabrera if they put up another prospect)

Scott Moore

 

Cubs Get:

Alex Rodriguez

 

Maybe we'd give the Yankees someone else too...

 

You MUST be on the Ganja! What in the world do the Yankme's want Scott more for? Marlin's make out like made. If the Yankees get Cabrera and add Scott Moore to the Marlins, then I can see the Cubs getting Arod by giving up Murton, Pie, and Moore. Sure I could see that. Throw in one of the pitching prospects to give Florida more reason to do it.

 

I'd love to have Arod, but the new regime seems to want to win while developing for the future. Giving up Pie, Murton, and Moore means many more years of looking for free agent positional players without developing your own.

 

I don't think they have time for that with their contracts. Plus we have no one in our system that they can justify as not wanting to trade for Arod.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

First off. We'd have to SIGN A-ram (less you are talking about moore) before we trade him. Secondly. Signing someone then trading them = not cool.

 

1. Aramis would only have to be signed if he uses the clause to opt out of his current contract. Until he does so, he still belongs to the Cubs.

 

2. If he opts out, he becomes a free agent. There are rules governing whether or not you can trade a newly signed free agent so it's not "not cool", it would not be allowed by the league.

[Sammy Sofa]

Even if Aramis was moved for ARod, I think you move ARod back to SS. It's his natural position and he's one of the best that ever played it. Moving him to 3rd for Jeter was one of the dumbest moves of all time.

[SCCubbieFAN]

First off. We'd have to SIGN A-ram (less you are talking about moore) before we trade him. Secondly. Signing someone then trading them = not cool.

 

1. Aramis would only have to be signed if he uses the clause to opt out of his current contract. Until he does so, he still belongs to the Cubs.

 

2. If he opts out, he becomes a free agent. There are rules governing whether or not you can trade a newly signed free agent so it's not "not cool", it would not be allowed by the league.

 

ARam's deal/contract can be re-worked so he doesn't actually become a FA but even if he does, he can consent to a trade. If the Cubs were actually considering a deal involving ARam before or after he opts out or not, I'm fairly certain it would be w/ARam's knowledge and blessing.

[jmajew]

IF the Yankees are going ot shop A-rod they will want starting pitching. I can see a deal of Prior, Veal, and Moore for A-rod being the kind of deal the Yankees would take. I know Prior is a huge risk but if healthy that trade would be an amazing deal for the Yankees.

[Electron Blue]

IF the Yankees are going ot shop A-rod they will want starting pitching. I can see a deal of Prior, Veal, and Moore for A-rod being the kind of deal the Yankees would take. I know Prior is a huge risk but if healthy that trade would be an amazing deal for the Yankees.

 

No one in 2003 would believe we would consider trading Prior w/n just 3-4 years, but here we are.

 

And, FWIW, I would probably do that deal - though I don't know much about Veal.

[CubinNY]

Believe it or not the Yankees are about at their spending limit. They really can't afford to take on much more debt while they are financing the new stadium.

 

With that in mind is this a realistic trade proposal

 

To Cubs

 

A-Rod (minus a few million)

Carl Pavano (minus another few million)

 

To Yankees

 

Felix Pie

Mark Prior

B level pitching prospect

 

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If the Cub invision Colvin becoming a CF Pie becomes expendable (so to speak). The Cubs need another starting Pitcher if they deal Prior and we already know Hendry loves da' 2003 Marlins.

 

To me this is not a bad trade, but I don't know about the financials for the Cubs. They would be taking on a lot of salary.

[AubCubFan]

If, IF we get AROD, which I doubt we will, atleast until he is way past his prime. Anyways, if we got Arod, He would win the MVP. The wrigley pressure is great, but nothing like Yankee Stadium. I think he would do great.

 

Is there anyone un-touchable?

 

We wouldnt get rid of Lee, but I think anyone else could go. Would we risk getting rid of Rich Hill?

[soccer10k]

Believe it or not the Yankees are about at their spending limit. They really can't afford to take on much more debt while they are financing the new stadium.

 

With that in mind is this a realistic trade proposal

 

To Cubs

 

A-Rod (minus a few million)

Carl Pavano (minus another few million)

 

To Yankees

 

Felix Pie

Mark Prior

B level pitching prospect

 

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If the Cub invision Colvin becoming a CF Pie becomes expendable (so to speak). The Cubs need another starting Pitcher if they deal Prior and we already know Hendry loves da' 2003 Marlins.

 

To me this is not a bad trade, but I don't know about the financials for the Cubs. They would be taking on a lot of salary.

 

Sheffield will be a free agent which will take $13M off the books. Mussina has a $17M club option (1.5M buyout for 2007) and it's hard to see the Yankees picking that up. So right there you have almost $30M coming off the books. Are they looking to cut that much salary? With the trade you're proposing, even with the Yankees paying some of the contracts, that would mean the Yankees would be cutting somewhere from $40-50M worth of salary next year depending on how much money they give the Cubs.

[Sammy Sofa]

If, IF we get AROD, which I doubt we will, atleast until he is way past his prime. Anyways, if we got Arod, He would win the MVP. The wrigley pressure is great, but nothing like Yankee Stadium. I think he would do great.

 

Is there anyone un-touchable?

 

We wouldnt get rid of Lee, but I think anyone else could go. Would we risk getting rid of Rich Hill?

 

To get Arod? I should certainly hope so.

[Electron Blue]

If, IF we get AROD, which I doubt we will, atleast until he is way past his prime. Anyways, if we got Arod, He would win the MVP. The wrigley pressure is great, but nothing like Yankee Stadium. I think he would do great.

 

Is there anyone un-touchable?

 

We wouldnt get rid of Lee, but I think anyone else could go. Would we risk getting rid of Rich Hill?

 

To get Arod? I should certainly hope so.

 

If Rich Hill is the centerpiece, I COMPLETELY agree.

 

But what if the deal is Arod for Prior/Pie/Hill/Murton/prospect.

 

I would have to think about it - I may still do it, but it would take some thought.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Hahaha, ARod batting 8th today.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Hahaha, ARod batting 8th today.

 

Holy Crap!

 

He's going to want to be traded after this!