Olympics

[CDBears1259]

From the tone I've seen here on the subject, I know this probably won't be popular, but I actually agree with most of what this guy says.

 

http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/sports/olympic/story/3179493p-11888681c.html

 

I agree Davis has been acting selfish. The trouble is though------Hedrick is being just as selfish. Think about it, just for a second. The only way Hedrick wins 5 GOLD medals is to take the 1,000 meter. The only way he wins the 1,000 meter is by tiring Davis out. The only way he tires Davis out is by getting him to skate more events.

 

Hedrick was never in the running for 5 Gold medals, unless Davis handed the 1,000 to him. So you're telling me Davis is selfish for not handing it to him? How about HEDRICK being selfish for wanting Davis to sacrifice his Olympic dream? Huh?

 

It's a 2 way street. Unfortunately, in typical American media fashion, only one side is being reported. Hedrick is just as much of a self-centered prick as Davis. So why is he being treated like a hero and Davis like trash? That's completely unfair. Anyone who is honest with themselves must concede that much.

 

Sorry, but I don't buy it. First of all, trying to justify Davis' selfishness by point out Hedrick's, whether true or not is a weak and ineffective argument. You don't justify bad behavior, by pointing out other bad behavior, especially when you have no proof of said action taking place.

 

If a great Olympic athlete can't recover in time to compete two days later, then he's not the athlete he thinks he is. As for assigning alterior motives to Hedrick, by saying that he is trying to tire Davis out is a pretty large leap to make and a very entertaining theory. Maybe, but I don't think either of us have any idea what inside games are going on, if any.

 

In an even race with nothing strange happening, your probably right about Hedrick not beating Davis in the 1000, but to say the "only" way for Hedrick to beat Davis in the 1000 is if Davis were to hand it to Hedrick is another assumption, although not quite as wild. Anything can happen, therefore, that is not the "only" way Hedrick could beat Davis.

 

How would Davis be sacrificing his Olympic dream? Again I say if he can't recover in time he's not the Olympic athlete he thinks he is. Not only that, but Davis is competing in more than one event, thus allowing his Olympic dream to continue, even if he would have been beaten in the 1000.

 

As for the media only reporting one side, Davis isn't doing himself any favors by not trying to cozy up to the media in an effort to clear up his public perception. If Davis is being treated like trash by media, maybe it has something to do with the way he acts. While I'm not a fan of the media most of the time, Davis could use them to his advantage too. I did see that ESPN's anchor were pretty forgiving of his attitude and congratulatory at the time he won his first gold and MSNBC was showing him some love today as well.

 

I'm not so naive as to think that Hedrick's motives are purely for his country's success, but at least he seems to hide his supposed glory hogging attempts by tying them in with the US's success. With Davis not so much. He's seems to have a huge chip on his shoulder that is in dire need of being knocked off.

[Andy]

I will give Shani credit for not taking his post-medal ceremony interview to take a dig at Hedrick tonight. However, I'm just eager for more speed skating. It's one of my favorite events.

[BigbadB]

I look forward to the day that a US Olympic athlete is introduced as such, rather than by race first.

[Soul]

From the tone I've seen here on the subject, I know this probably won't be popular, but I actually agree with most of what this guy says.

 

http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/sports/olympic/story/3179493p-11888681c.html

 

I agree Davis has been acting selfish. The trouble is though------Hedrick is being just as selfish. Think about it, just for a second. The only way Hedrick wins 5 GOLD medals is to take the 1,000 meter. The only way he wins the 1,000 meter is by tiring Davis out. The only way he tires Davis out is by getting him to skate more events.

 

Hedrick was never in the running for 5 Gold medals, unless Davis handed the 1,000 to him. So you're telling me Davis is selfish for not handing it to him? How about HEDRICK being selfish for wanting Davis to sacrifice his Olympic dream? Huh?

 

It's a 2 way street. Unfortunately, in typical American media fashion, only one side is being reported. Hedrick is just as much of a self-centered prick as Davis. So why is he being treated like a hero and Davis like trash? That's completely unfair. Anyone who is honest with themselves must concede that much.

 

Sorry, but I don't buy it. First of all, trying to justify Davis' selfishness by point out Hedrick's, whether true or not is a weak and ineffective argument. You don't justify bad behavior, by pointing out other bad behavior, especially when you have no proof of said action taking place.

 

If a great Olympic athlete can't recover in time to compete two days later, then he's not the athlete he thinks he is. As for assigning alterior motives to Hedrick, by saying that he is trying to tire Davis out is a pretty large leap to make and a very entertaining theory. Maybe, but I don't think either of us have any idea what inside games are going on, if any.

 

In an even race with nothing strange happening, your probably right about Hedrick not beating Davis in the 1000, but to say the "only" way for Hedrick to beat Davis in the 1000 is if Davis were to hand it to Hedrick is another assumption, although not quite as wild. Anything can happen, therefore, that is not the "only" way Hedrick could beat Davis.

 

How would Davis be sacrificing his Olympic dream? Again I say if he can't recover in time he's not the Olympic athlete he thinks he is. Not only that, but Davis is competing in more than one event, thus allowing his Olympic dream to continue, even if he would have been beaten in the 1000.

 

As for the media only reporting one side, Davis isn't doing himself any favors by not trying to cozy up to the media in an effort to clear up his public perception. If Davis is being treated like trash by media, maybe it has something to do with the way he acts. While I'm not a fan of the media most of the time, Davis could use them to his advantage too. I did see that ESPN's anchor were pretty forgiving of his attitude and congratulatory at the time he won his first gold and MSNBC was showing him some love today as well.

 

I'm not so naive as to think that Hedrick's motives are purely for his country's success, but at least he seems to hide his supposed glory hogging attempts by tying them in with the US's success. With Davis not so much. He's seems to have a huge chip on his shoulder that is in dire need of being knocked off.

 

I wasn't trying to justify Davis' selfishness by pointing out Hedrick's. I merely pointed out that both were acting like jerks, and only one was getting reamed for it.

 

You're completely wrong when you say Hedrick is hiding his ulterior motives. Maybe you missed his comment the other day:

 

"I mean, I'm the one with the Gold Medal so why are we talking about him?"

[jaydee]

I look forward to the day that a US Olympic athlete is introduced as such, rather than by race first.

exactly...at that point maybe racism will actually be gone...

[Marco4]

I was just briefly bitten by the curling bug. Its passed now.

[CDBears1259]

From the tone I've seen here on the subject, I know this probably won't be popular, but I actually agree with most of what this guy says.

 

http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/sports/olympic/story/3179493p-11888681c.html

 

I agree Davis has been acting selfish. The trouble is though------Hedrick is being just as selfish. Think about it, just for a second. The only way Hedrick wins 5 GOLD medals is to take the 1,000 meter. The only way he wins the 1,000 meter is by tiring Davis out. The only way he tires Davis out is by getting him to skate more events.

 

Hedrick was never in the running for 5 Gold medals, unless Davis handed the 1,000 to him. So you're telling me Davis is selfish for not handing it to him? How about HEDRICK being selfish for wanting Davis to sacrifice his Olympic dream? Huh?

 

It's a 2 way street. Unfortunately, in typical American media fashion, only one side is being reported. Hedrick is just as much of a self-centered prick as Davis. So why is he being treated like a hero and Davis like trash? That's completely unfair. Anyone who is honest with themselves must concede that much.

 

Sorry, but I don't buy it. First of all, trying to justify Davis' selfishness by point out Hedrick's, whether true or not is a weak and ineffective argument. You don't justify bad behavior, by pointing out other bad behavior, especially when you have no proof of said action taking place.

 

If a great Olympic athlete can't recover in time to compete two days later, then he's not the athlete he thinks he is. As for assigning alterior motives to Hedrick, by saying that he is trying to tire Davis out is a pretty large leap to make and a very entertaining theory. Maybe, but I don't think either of us have any idea what inside games are going on, if any.

 

In an even race with nothing strange happening, your probably right about Hedrick not beating Davis in the 1000, but to say the "only" way for Hedrick to beat Davis in the 1000 is if Davis were to hand it to Hedrick is another assumption, although not quite as wild. Anything can happen, therefore, that is not the "only" way Hedrick could beat Davis.

 

How would Davis be sacrificing his Olympic dream? Again I say if he can't recover in time he's not the Olympic athlete he thinks he is. Not only that, but Davis is competing in more than one event, thus allowing his Olympic dream to continue, even if he would have been beaten in the 1000.

 

As for the media only reporting one side, Davis isn't doing himself any favors by not trying to cozy up to the media in an effort to clear up his public perception. If Davis is being treated like trash by media, maybe it has something to do with the way he acts. While I'm not a fan of the media most of the time, Davis could use them to his advantage too. I did see that ESPN's anchor were pretty forgiving of his attitude and congratulatory at the time he won his first gold and MSNBC was showing him some love today as well.

 

I'm not so naive as to think that Hedrick's motives are purely for his country's success, but at least he seems to hide his supposed glory hogging attempts by tying them in with the US's success. With Davis not so much. He's seems to have a huge chip on his shoulder that is in dire need of being knocked off.

 

I wasn't trying to justify Davis' selfishness by pointing out Hedrick's. I merely pointed out that both were acting like jerks, and only one was getting reamed for it.

 

You're completely wrong when you say Hedrick is hiding his ulterior motives. Maybe you missed his comment the other day:

 

"I mean, I'm the one with the Gold Medal so why are we talking about him?"

 

How does his comment prove me wrong about his motives? If anything all it shows is that he is annoyed by such a stupid discussion about someone/something when he's just won a gold medal. I wonder why more athletes don't make comments like this. It happens in the PGA all the time if someone other than Tiger wins a tourney. Instead of talking the winner up, the first question usually has something to do with why Tiger didn't win the competition. His comment proves zero about his motives, real or perceived.

[Chris]

In regards to the quote from Hedrick, I'm wanting to say that he also voiced displeasure with the focus on Davis because Joey Cheek had won a gold medal and was receiving little attention. When you add the fact that Cheek is giving prize money to charity, it is a shame that the majority of questions remained on Davis backing out of the team chase.

[CDBears1259]

In regards to the quote from Hedrick, I'm wanting to say that he also voiced displeasure with the focus on Davis because Joey Cheek had won a gold medal and was receiving little attention. When you add the fact that Cheek is giving prize money to charity, it is a shame that the majority of questions remained on Davis backing out of the team chase.

 

=D> What an excellent point!

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Let's see how the media reacts to that race...

[hardcorecubfan]

I look forward to the day that a US Olympic athlete is introduced as such, rather than by race first.

 

Exactly

[Andy]

The US can't score on an open shot, but stick 50 people in front of the net and they're golden. Russia leads the US 3-2 after two despite the Americans largely dominating the offensive end. The game is essentially meaningless because we play Finland tomorrow, win, lose, or tie.

[Flames24Rulz]

US loses to Russia 5-4...the final minute of the game was real exciting even though the outcome was pretty much meaningless.

 

like ndi said, we play Finland tomorrow in the quarters.

[Chris]

Sasha Cohen is off to a good start

[jaydee]

usa loses to finland 4-3...they didnt play well at all and were still in it. this was a transition olympics anyway from the leetch/amonte/roenick/madano/chelios group to the jack johnson/phil kessel/erik johnson/parise generation of players. USA really played well enough to win or tie against Sweden, Russia, SLovakia, or Finland but just couldn't finish their chances.

[wolf stansson]

I'm pumped for the battle of czechloslovakia. Should be an exciting game.

[Flames24Rulz]

Canada will not repeat as gold medal champs as they lose to Russia 2-0.

[sandberg23]

Apolo won gold in the 500. Very exciting race to watch.

[stitchface]

Apolo won gold in the 500. Very exciting race to watch.

 

I'm very happy for him - he seems like the most likeable of all the US olympians (that have been shown at least). He looks genuinely thrilled crossing the line.

[Chris]

great races!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Apolo won gold in the 500. Very exciting race to watch.

 

I'm very happy for him - he seems like the most likeable of all the US olympians (that have been shown at least). He looks genuinely thrilled crossing the line.

 

He's a really great guy. My mom met him 4 years ago at a post-Oscar party and he let her and her co-workers touch his Olympic medal and was nice to everyone.

[stitchface]

Apolo won gold in the 500. Very exciting race to watch.

 

I'm very happy for him - he seems like the most likeable of all the US olympians (that have been shown at least). He looks genuinely thrilled crossing the line.

 

He's a really great guy. My mom met him 4 years ago at a post-Oscar party and he let her and her co-workers touch his Olympic medal and was nice to everyone.

 

He seems very nice and very mature. He got very lucky though - the poor guy who had been second in the semi really got screwed. he didn't get dqed but the move that led to the DQ took him out of the race.

[stitchface]

or did they let him through? I'm about to watch the final.

[stitchface]

wow, that was awesome. interesting that he is good friends with Shani Davis. Kind of falls in line with what I think about Davis and Hedrick.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

US is going to lose the medal chase to Germany. Bummer. Doesn't look like Canada will have a chance to catch the US for second though.