Would you trade Ohman for Michaels?

[Ram1380]

If things were to fall apart between Cleve./Philly with recent developments, would you "jump in" and offer Ohman to Philly for Michaels?

 

Slide Rush into Ohmans spot , guarantee Williams a spot in the rotation that he deserves anyway IMO.

 

Baker could easily find plenty of time for Michaels/Murton/Jones between LF and RF, (say 450 ab's?) playing his beloved righty/leftie matchups.

[RynoRules]

Sign me up. I just can't believe that Philly would do it.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Offer them Rusch first. But yes, I'd give Ohman for Michaels.

[RynoRules]

Offer them Rusch first. But yes, I'd give Ohman for Michaels.

 

 

Based on the fact that they are willing to take Rhodes, I would think Rusch is is just as attractive b/c he can start as well. But what do I know; the whole makes little sense.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I like Ohman, but considering we have Dempster, Williamson, Eyre, Howry, Rusch, Wellemeyer, Novoa, and Wuertz who can all pitch out of the pen, yes.

[Ram1380]

Sign me up. I just can't believe that Philly would do it.

 

 

They were going to give him up for Rhodes, Ohman may be just as good against lefties, for a fraction of the costs.

 

 

Not saying if they would or wouldn't, should get you close.

[CuseCubFan69]

Where would the Cubs play Michaels?

[USSoccer]

Where would the Cubs play Michaels?

 

4th OF.

[RynoRules]

Where would the Cubs play Michaels?

 

Who cares? Have you seen his OBP? :wink:

[SouthSideRyan]

Neither Ohman or Rusch have the perceived value of Rhodes.

[baseball7897]

NO way I would trade Ohman for Michaels.

[MPrior]

I definitely would have done it before we traded for Pierre. And I guess I probably would still do it, but getting him playing time would be difficult, because Pierre's gonna play just about every day, Jones is pretty much guaranteed a starting role (argh), and I want Murton in the lineup as much as possible, unless we have a serious power bat to take his place, and while I like Michaels a lot, he doesn't qualify.

[USSoccer]

NO way I would trade Ohman for Michaels.

 

I think at this point for the Cubs, we could use a lefty specialist more than a 4th OF. Rusch isn't a great LOOGY candidate, and I have no faith in anyone else in the system.

 

That said, if you knew Hill could fill that role well, or knew you were going to platoon Jones, Ohman for Michaels is fair.

[Neuby]

Ohman was a well thought of prospect before he got hit hard by some injuries. Last year was really his first full season in the majors he's only 28 and is quite a bargain. Lefties hit 173 off him and though righties killed him at 231.He has some pretty unhittable stuff for one inning and would hate to lose him for a bench guy and an overhyped one at that.

[professahesse]

Ohman was a well thought of prospect before he got hit hard by some injuries. Last year was really his first full season in the majors he's only 28 and is quite a bargain. Lefties hit 173 off him and though righties killed him at 231.He has some pretty unhittable stuff for one inning and would hate to lose him for a bench guy and an overhyped one at that.

 

Yeah, Ohman showed me something last year. He's a great loogy and probably has the potential to be even more valuable. I don't really see the need for Michaels, but I'd try to give them Novoa, Wellmeyer and/or some other righty before Ohman.

[Lefty]

NO way I would trade Ohman for Michaels.

 

Ohman is a commodity. I do that in a heartbeat. But then I need to dump Pierre.

 

BTW, Michaels hits righties just fine.

[NorthsideAvenger]

NO way I would trade Ohman for Michaels.

 

Ohman is a commodity. I do that in a heartbeat. But then I need to dump Pierre.

 

BTW, Michaels hits righties just fine.

 

Lefties who can get outs in the late innings are more valuable the 4th OF (besides we have Mabry/Grissom/Restovich :roll: ) who would force Murton to the bench. Murton is a very similar player to Michaels, and the best things is....Murton is 7 yrs younger then Michaels. So while his numbers may look great, I don't buy into the Michaels hype. This is a player who couldn't BEAT OUT the likes such legendary players like Ledee, Chavez, Lofton, Byrd....

 

And no, I wouldn't do a Ohman for Michaels deal. Maybe Bartosh and Wellemeyer but not Will Ohman.

[CuseCubFan69]

NO way I would trade Ohman for Michaels.

 

Ohman is a commodity. I do that in a heartbeat. But then I need to dump Pierre.

 

BTW, Michaels hits righties just fine.

 

Lefties who can get outs in the late innings are more valuable the 4th OF (besides we have Mabry/Grissom/Restovich :roll: ) who would force Murton to the bench. Murton is a very similar player to Michaels, and the best things is....Murton is 7 yrs younger then Michaels. So while his numbers may look great, I don't buy into the Michaels hype. This is a player who couldn't BEAT OUT the likes such legendary players like Ledee, Chavez, Lofton, Byrd....

 

And no, I wouldn't do a Ohman for Michaels deal. Maybe Bartosh and Wellemeyer but not Will Ohman.

 

Is Bartosh still on the 40 man?

[waffle]

they said in the philly paper this am that the deal with Micheals is AT LEAST on hold (no sure what the holdup is). He's young, has a decent glove and arm, seems to be a fairly clutch hitter when given the chance. I think he might end up being a starting RF/LF for us if the deal went through, I think he could maybe beat out either jones or Murton

 

Oh yeah, and he had an incident last year where he hit a cop and really messed him up, so he has that going for him.

[Lefty]

NO way I would trade Ohman for Michaels.

 

Ohman is a commodity. I do that in a heartbeat. But then I need to dump Pierre.

 

BTW, Michaels hits righties just fine.

 

Lefties who can get outs in the late innings are more valuable the 4th OF (besides we have Mabry/Grissom/Restovich :roll: ) who would force Murton to the bench.

 

And no, I wouldn't do a Ohman for Michaels deal. Maybe Bartosh and Wellemeyer but not Will Ohman.

 

We have Eyre for outs in the late innings if you think such micro-building of your bullpen is required (it isn't). I didn't advocate benching Murton. I'd prefer to dump Pierre. Even though that is not going to happen, with Jones' flailing against LHPs, Michaels could get over 300 PAs with us and have a great OBP. Ohman's a commodity. And Michaels is way better than Mabry, Grissom or Restovich.

[ltb]

NO way I would trade Ohman for Michaels.

 

Ohman is a commodity. I do that in a heartbeat. But then I need to dump Pierre.

 

BTW, Michaels hits righties just fine.

 

Lefties who can get outs in the late innings are more valuable the 4th OF (besides we have Mabry/Grissom/Restovich :roll: ) who would force Murton to the bench. Murton is a very similar player to Michaels, and the best things is....Murton is 7 yrs younger then Michaels. So while his numbers may look great, I don't buy into the Michaels hype. This is a player who couldn't BEAT OUT the likes such legendary players like Ledee, Chavez, Lofton, Byrd....

 

And no, I wouldn't do a Ohman for Michaels deal. Maybe Bartosh and Wellemeyer but not Will Ohman.

 

Is Bartosh still on the 40 man?

 

no, he was removed when sent to iowa last year.

[baseball7897]

If you dump Pierre then who is leading off???????

[Sabermetrician]

If you dump Pierre then who is leading off???????

What's wrong with Michaels leading off?

 

Contrary to popular belief, there's more to leading off than running fast.

[NCCubFan]

they said in the philly paper this am that the deal with Micheals is AT LEAST on hold (no sure what the holdup is).

The holdup is that, from Cleveland's perspective, this trade is tied to the trade with Boston (Coco Crisp for Marte and Mota). That trade is on hold because Mota failed his physical, and if it falls through I don't think Cleveland still wants to trade Rhodes.

[TheRaven]

Well, obviously, Pierre wouldn't get dumped anyways, so thats a non issue, wishful thinking or not.

 

I would do this trade as it would be a boost to the Cubs lackluster offense. Suddenly, we have someone to hit lefties for Jones, making that signing look better as he is an above average hitter against righties. And, we have Murton insurance now as well, as I don't think he has proven himself beyond a doubt that he can be an everyday player in the majors. A hitter like Michaels could be a make or break type addition for this team. I cannot say the same for Ohman.