Latest from Mike Kiley......re Prior

[NorthsideAvenger]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/cubs/cst-spt-kiley31.html

 

In fact, what Prior has been assured of behind the scenes is this important fact: The Cubs didn't offer him to the Orioles for Tejada. Major-league sources explained that the Orioles phoned Hendry and asked if he would trade Prior for Tejada. Hendry told the Orioles he wouldn't consider that one-for-one swap.

 

Hendry needed to get a quality pitcher in return, and the discussion went into different avenues from there. But when he asked for left-handed pitcher Erik Bedard as part of a multiplayer package, suddenly the Orioles were the ones backing away.

 

So unless Bedard or to a lesser extent Daniel Cabrera is on the table....I doubt a Prior for Tejada deal is even on the table.

[Marco4]

Reading the text you've highlighted in bold is probably the best thing that will happen to me until the start of 2006.

[Cubfanintheknow]

Jim Hendry takes a lot of heat on this board and in the media, but he does know when to shut up. He's taken a beating lately for even "offering" Mark Prior. But as a courtesy to the Orioles, who could yet wind up as a trade partner with the Cubs, he lets the speculation run rampant rather than speak out and possibly jeopardize a deal.

[CuseCubFan69]

Jim Hendry takes a lot of heat on this board and in the media, but he does know when to shut up. He's taken a beating lately for even "offering" Mark Prior. But as a courtesy to the Orioles, who could yet wind up as a trade partner with the Cubs, he lets the speculation run rampant rather than speak out and possibly jeopardize a deal.

 

So Jim knows when to hold em...knows when to fold em? Knows when to walk away and knows when to run?

[CP_414]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

[Electron Blue]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

 

Yeah, if for no other reason, than to spare us the suspense

[Cubfanintheknow]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

 

I'm glad he didn't. Nothing like shutting the door when other options (ones that don't include Mark Prior, mind you) may be available.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

 

I'm glad he didn't. Nothing like shutting the door when other options (ones that don't include Mark Prior, mind you) may be available.

 

Like Mora. I wonder what he would cost trade wise?

[Electron Blue]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

 

I'm glad he didn't. Nothing like shutting the door when other options (ones that don't include Mark Prior, mind you) may be available.

 

But if Hendry's determined not to trade Prior (and I've gradually come to this conclusion), it is important to "hang up laughing." If you don't, you may show hesitation or weakness, letting the O's dictate what's fair what's not fair in each proposal.

[Cubfanintheknow]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

 

I'm glad he didn't. Nothing like shutting the door when other options (ones that don't include Mark Prior, mind you) may be available.

 

But if Hendry's determined not to trade Prior (and I've gradually come to this conclusion), it is important to "hang up laughing." If you don't, you may show hesitation or weakness, letting the O's dictate what's fair what's not fair in each proposal.

 

There are better ways of doing that than humiliating another GM.

[ThePenguin11]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

 

I'm glad he didn't. Nothing like shutting the door when other options (ones that don't include Mark Prior, mind you) may be available.

 

But if Hendry's determined not to trade Prior (and I've gradually come to this conclusion), it is important to "hang up laughing." If you don't, you may show hesitation or weakness, letting the O's dictate what's fair what's not fair in each proposal.

 

There are better ways of doing that than humiliating another GM.

 

Business relations and ethics are just as important in baseball as they are in any business. Not only do you close a door with the team you insult, but the word will get around the league and give you a reputation as being a jerk. Other GMs won't give you a sniff at a decent offer if you build that kind of a rep.

 

(See Lamar, Chuck)

[Electron Blue]

I would have rather Jim hung up the phone laughing when Prior's name was mentioned by the O's.

 

I'm glad he didn't. Nothing like shutting the door when other options (ones that don't include Mark Prior, mind you) may be available.

 

But if Hendry's determined not to trade Prior (and I've gradually come to this conclusion), it is important to "hang up laughing." If you don't, you may show hesitation or weakness, letting the O's dictate what's fair what's not fair in each proposal.

 

There are better ways of doing that than humiliating another GM.

 

Business relations and ethics are just as important in baseball as they are in any business. Not only do you close a door with the team you insult, but the word will get around the league and give you a reputation as being a jerk. Other GMs won't give you a sniff at a decent offer if you build that kind of a rep.

 

(See Lamar, Chuck)

 

My intention of putting "hang up laughing" in quotation marks was to indicate that, of course, it's not meant literally. That phrase comes up a lot in this forum, and I've assumed that it simply meant: sternly deny without discussion or interest. I don't think doing this to the O's suggestion of Mark Prior would have any ill effects - chances are, Baltimore was just testing the waters and half-expected to get shot down.

[Peoriaman]

Cabrara has absolutely electric stuff. Better than Carlos Z.

[Wheelimus]

Yeah, i'd say that the best response to someone asking for someone you aren't willing to give up is to ask for an out of this world package that WOULD make you give them up. For all we know he asked for Bedard AND Cabrera. Hehe

[NorthsideAvenger]

Cabrara has absolutely electric stuff. Better than Carlos Z.

 

Yeah, well so did Juan Cruz.

[muntjack]

Cabrara has absolutely electric stuff. Better than Carlos Z.

 

Yeah, well so did Juan Cruz.

 

(sigh)

[Outshined_One]

Hm...looks like my theory of this whole thing just being like one bad game of telephone gone out of control might not be that far off the mark. :D

[PieOnMyHands]

So unless Bedard or to a lesser extent Daniel Cabrera is on the table....I doubt a Prior for Tejada deal is even on the table.

 

Thanks for posting this; however, (not to take anything away from you) hasn't this been the situation the whole time?

 

If it were Prior for Tejada straight up, what would be the hold-up? I thought all along it was a game of the other GM thinking his man was more valuable: Hendry felt that he needed a pitcher in return to make the deal work, while Flanagan (is that their GM?) felt that they, too, were giving up more, and needed prospect(s) to compensate.

 

I don't know what to think of this trade. There's so much speculation on it that I'm inclined to believe there is more going on than they're admitting, but the longer it drags on the more unlikely it is to happen... then again, the more Tejada whines, the more likely a deal will be reached... but then, since they don't have to trade him and since he will play for the Orioles next year ("I'll repsect the game," or whatever his quote was), I don't think that he's going to be any "cheaper" to get. That was a really long run-on sentence. Probably multiple ones, too.

[JeffH]

Hm...looks like my theory of this whole thing just being like one bad game of telephone gone out of control might not be that far off the mark. :D

 

Ken Rosenthal, to Hendry: "Jim, I've heard you may have some interest in trading for Miguel Tejada. Is that true? Have there been any talks on the matter?"

 

Hendry: "Obviously, we like him a lot. And, yes, we've had some prior discussions about Tejada."

 

Rosenthal pulls a muscle running back to his computer.

 

Shortly thereafter, NSBB implodes.

[WrigleyField 22]

Jim Hendry takes a lot of heat on this board and in the media, but he does know when to shut up. He's taken a beating lately for even "offering" Mark Prior. But as a courtesy to the Orioles, who could yet wind up as a trade partner with the Cubs, he lets the speculation run rampant rather than speak out and possibly jeopardize a deal.

 

So Jim knows when to hold em...knows when to fold em? Knows when to walk away and knows when to run?

 

Jim never counts his money, when hes sitting at the table. There'll be time enough for countng... When the dealings done.

 

Yes I changed one key word to make it baseball related.

didn't want your awesome usage of kenny rodgers to go unnoticed

[FergieJ31]

Hm...looks like my theory of this whole thing just being like one bad game of telephone gone out of control might not be that far off the mark. :D

 

Ken Rosenthal, to Hendry: "Jim, I've heard you may have some interest in trading for Miguel Tejada. Is that true? Have there been any talks on the matter?"

 

Hendry: "Obviously, we like him a lot. And, yes, we've had some prior discussions about Tejada."

 

Rosenthal pulls a muscle running back to his computer.

 

Shortly thereafter, NSBB implodes.

 

hehe niiiiice :D Hendry would also give Rosenthal his sundry line: "We'll consider any trade that will improve this ballclub."

[dacheezwhiz]

what about kenny rogers Wrigley?

[FergieJ31]

Jim Hendry takes a lot of heat on this board and in the media, but he does know when to shut up. He's taken a beating lately for even "offering" Mark Prior. But as a courtesy to the Orioles, who could yet wind up as a trade partner with the Cubs, he lets the speculation run rampant rather than speak out and possibly jeopardize a deal.

 

So Jim knows when to hold em...knows when to fold em? Knows when to walk away and knows when to run?

 

I hope Jim knows because Kenny Rogers has apparently forgotten:

 

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2005-06/18262319.jpg

[CubfaninCA]

Jim Hendry takes a lot of heat on this board and in the media, but he does know when to shut up. He's taken a beating lately for even "offering" Mark Prior. But as a courtesy to the Orioles, who could yet wind up as a trade partner with the Cubs, he lets the speculation run rampant rather than speak out and possibly jeopardize a deal.

 

Interesting take & quite possible. When it comes to trades Hendry's no amateur.

[Ram1380]

Jim Hendry takes a lot of heat on this board and in the media, but he does know when to shut up. He's taken a beating lately for even "offering" Mark Prior. But as a courtesy to the Orioles, who could yet wind up as a trade partner with the Cubs, he lets the speculation run rampant rather than speak out and possibly jeopardize a deal.

 

Interesting take & quite possible. When it comes to trades Hendry's no amateur.

 

 

 

Sure, when it comes to taking salary dumps from other clubs, save the Hundley deal.....although insurance paid the majority of his contract during his time back in LA, Karros played ENTIRELY too much and Pudz was kept another year(too long) because of that trade as well.

 

 

Color me unimpressed.