PieOnMyHands

Carlos Zambrano has 30 wins over the last two years. Jeff Suppan has 32 wins over the last two years. Win-loss doesn't mean anything. Well, yes it does, but it's vastly overrated and shouldn't be considered in this situation.

Trash? Now I know a 4.57 ERA isn't all that great, but he is playing in one of the friendliest hitters parks in baseball. Home ERA: 4.90 Away ERA: 4.20 Looks like crap wherever he's pitching. My main beef with Clement is that he's making $9 million the next two years. Relative to his salary, yes -- he's trash, in my opinion. Improving your pitching staff is one thing, but grossly overpaying for a #3 starter is not the best way to go about doing that. 4.37 career ERA, too. I do feel he was very impressive with the Cubs, and that I can't explain. You could also argue he went downhill after getting in in the face (3.85 ERA before the All-Star break, 5.72 ERA after), but if you argue that then the potentially of him being permanently damaged goods always looms.

That's really been my outlook on the situation the entire time. Between and elite position player (I'm skeptical if it applies to Miggy, by the way) and an elite pitcher, you take the pitcher.

I don't know. Clement, Manny and Marte? Well, let's see: Clement is trash and is grossly overpaid, so the Orioles would be doing the Red Sox a favor by paying him $9 million over the next two years. Manny makes, what... $9 million more per year than Tejada does? I really don't see their Marte request as being as over-the-top as you personally feel it is . I view it more as Manny and Marte, and then being forced to take Clement and overpay for Clement. I would think that Manny for Tejada is pretty much an equal trade. Manny is a lot better of a player, but he's four years older and costs a lot more, so that really detracts from his value. The Sox are clearly more willing to deal than the Orioles are, so one would naturally assume that the O's would have to get the better end of the deal. Just my thoughts.

I'd say that is at least a reasonable concern, but here's why it's not comparable: the young pitchers mentioned didn't have a career ERAs of 3.24 in 2+ big league seasons when they were acquired. I think Baltimore would be stupid not to accept a Tejada-for-Prior trade.

I bet the Royals are pissed right now... I know! What a traitor! In fact, he's a double traitor: - Betrays his former team, the Cubs, for their rivals, the Cards - Betrays the Royals and the contract he signed with them for Kansas City's rival, the Cards :x

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/transactions?team=stl AWESOME. Is he any good?

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5208404 Mets could get Manny in four-way blockbuster This is the laughable part: So while entertaining offers that involve Manny and Clement, Prior, and possibly some nice offers from the White Sox, the Orioles will settle for the Lugo and Benson package? This story has to be 100% fabricated.

I don't see Quentin being traded. What would be the point? The Byrnes deal is only for one year. No need to rush the guy. Give him another year at AAA, or just keep him on the bench and ease him into the starting role so he's ready for next year. There are also injuries and whatnot to consider. Depth is never a bad thing... and since they can just keep him in the minors, I think they'd have to be overwhelmed to give him up.

Thanks for posting this; however, (not to take anything away from you) hasn't this been the situation the whole time? If it were Prior for Tejada straight up, what would be the hold-up? I thought all along it was a game of the other GM thinking his man was more valuable: Hendry felt that he needed a pitcher in return to make the deal work, while Flanagan (is that their GM?) felt that they, too, were giving up more, and needed prospect(s) to compensate. I don't know what to think of this trade. There's so much speculation on it that I'm inclined to believe there is more going on than they're admitting, but the longer it drags on the more unlikely it is to happen... then again, the more Tejada whines, the more likely a deal will be reached... but then, since they don't have to trade him and since he will play for the Orioles next year ("I'll repsect the game," or whatever his quote was), I don't think that he's going to be any "cheaper" to get. That was a really long run-on sentence. Probably multiple ones, too.

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If you read the link to the quotes, it's pre-faced by a couple paragraphs: - He's in Santo Domingo; logically, one would assume that this reporter has at least some experience with the Spanish language. - He claims to have personally interviewed Miguel Tejada himself. So to answer your question: yes, there is a chance that this is all fabricated by the media. I doubt it, though. There's nothing in this most recent interview to suggest that Tejada has other views than what have already been expressed. Furthermore, if you look at this quote... That all-but-ensures that he had previously discussed this issue with the media personally, not through a representative. I don't want to sit here and argue semantics with you, because it's stupid. If you don't believe in these stories, don't post in here. You don't have to insult me and make it sound like I'm a gullable fan starving for news just because I react to an article..

Tejada is ridiculous. He's starting to sound like Manny! "I want to be traded." "I didn't say I wanted to be traded, I am just frustrated." "I want to be traded."

True, but regardless... that's still saying something about what kind of upgrade we're going to expect. And you can argue that Rolen might not revert back to career form... but he's almost certain to be better than last year, when he would wince in pain when he would swing and miss.

I'll take my chances with Scott Rolen over Abraham Nunez. AVG OBP SLG OPS .235 .323 .383 .706 (roughly 200 injured Scott Rolen at-bats) .285 .343 .361 .704 (421 Abraham Nunez at-bats) An injured Scott Rolen that experiences pain every time he swings a bat is (slightly) more productive than Abraham Nunez.