Pirates sign Jason Bay to a (probably) 5-year contract

[sethuel1]

No hard money or years data yet.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2227115

[YearofDaCubs]

No-brainer there. The kid is good.

[BigbadB]

Ah, following in Brian Giles footsteps.

[AAApittsburgh]

Ah, following in Brian Giles footsteps.

I was really hoping he'd follow the footsteps of Aramis Ramirez.

[imb]

He's the next Abreu.

 

Seriously, look at his numbers last year.

[Dr. Cub]

He's the next Abreu.

 

Seriously, look at his numbers last year.

 

Wow. I knew the kid was good, but holy crap!! He really should not be wasting his talent in Pittsburgh. He should be on the north side of Chicago wasting it.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

He's the next Abreu.

 

Seriously, look at his numbers last year.

 

Wow. I knew the kid was good, but holy crap!! He really should not be wasting his talent in Pittsburgh. He should be on the north side of Chicago wasting it.

 

I'd even trade Murton for him. :lol:

[Transmogrified Tiger]

2004: .352 BABIP

2005: .355 BABIP

Career Minor League BABIP: .316

 

2004: .218 IsoP

2005: .253 IsoP

Career Minor League IsoP: .158

 

2004: 27.21 K/100 PA

2005: 19.83 K/100 PA

Career Minor League K/100 PA: 18.38

 

Either he somehow figured it out, or he's had an impressive streak of good fortune.

[rawaction]

2004: .352 BABIP

2005: .355 BABIP

Career Minor League BABIP: .316

 

2004: .218 IsoP

2005: .253 IsoP

Career Minor League IsoP: .158

 

2004: 27.21 K/100 PA

2005: 19.83 K/100 PA

Career Minor League K/100 PA: 18.38

 

Either he somehow figured it out, or he's had an impressive streak of good fortune.

 

I think he's just good. My fantasy team thinks so too.

[Andy]

Bay is an absolute stud. I can only assume the Pirates made some kind of informal promise to Bay to at least put up a marginal effort to win payroll-wise, otherwise I can't imagine him signing the dotted line for 5 years.

 

I'd kill for Bay in left field, though. Probably the most underrated player in the majors.

[Gunned]

2004: .352 BABIP

2005: .355 BABIP

Career Minor League BABIP: .316

 

2004: .218 IsoP

2005: .253 IsoP

Career Minor League IsoP: .158

 

2004: 27.21 K/100 PA

2005: 19.83 K/100 PA

Career Minor League K/100 PA: 18.38

 

Either he somehow figured it out, or he's had an impressive streak of good fortune.

 

What players DO you like?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

2004: .352 BABIP

2005: .355 BABIP

Career Minor League BABIP: .316

 

2004: .218 IsoP

2005: .253 IsoP

Career Minor League IsoP: .158

 

2004: 27.21 K/100 PA

2005: 19.83 K/100 PA

Career Minor League K/100 PA: 18.38

 

Either he somehow figured it out, or he's had an impressive streak of good fortune.

 

What players DO you like?

 

Bay's a good player, I like him a lot. Just throwing out there what looks like a real oddity. You don't see a lot of players just jump 70-100 points in slugging from their minor league numbers. His BABIP has been pointed out by others in the past.

[Gunned]

That's fine. Just wondering.

[Keener98]

4 year 18.25 million is what the deal is for. Good deal for the Pirates.

[Burtonbell]

What a great deal for the Pirates! I can't believe how low is salary is going to be the next 2 years. Thats about as great a contract as I have seen in years...

 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aguozs44Y8xuOn0MzewJOQIRvLYF?slug=ap-pirates-bay&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Outshined_One]

4 year 18.25 million is what the deal is for. Good deal for the Pirates.

 

Wow, that's a heck of a good deal. 4/40 is more market value for him, imo.

[Andy]

4 year 18.25 million is what the deal is for. Good deal for the Pirates.

 

Wow, that's a heck of a good deal. 4/40 is more market value for him, imo.

I'd pay 4/40 for Bay in a second. That's one hell of a hometown discount he's giving the Buckos.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Remember that Bay isn't arbitration eligible until after next season. It's probably less than what he would've gotten had he gone to arbitration all 3 years, but remember the Pirates have him under their control for all 4 years regardless.

 

EDIT: This isn't really much of a discount. He's trading a couple million dollars he could get if his production stays the same for the security of guaranteed money. Hafner, Vic Martinez, Blalock, and Michael Young have done the same thing.

Edited November 17, 2005 by Transmogrified Tiger

[TrueBlueCubFan]

4 year 18.25 million is what the deal is for. Good deal for the Pirates.

 

Wow, that's a heck of a good deal. 4/40 is more market value for him, imo.

Bay would get that or more if he was FA eligible. I think he's still 3 years or more away from FA's.

[treebird]

Remember that Bay isn't arbitration eligible until after next season. It's probably less than what he would've gotten had he gone to arbitration all 3 years, but remember the Pirates have him under their control for all 4 years regardless.

 

EDIT: This isn't really much of a discount. He's trading a couple million dollars he could get if his production stays the same for the security of guaranteed money. Hafner, Vic Martinez, Blalock, and Michael Young have done the same thing.

 

exactly, he was going to be pretty much free next year anyway.

[cubs121]

well...

hes gonna get more chances to beat up on us and break our hearts (sigh) :cry:

[NorthsideAvenger]

well...

hes gonna get more chances to beat up on us and break our hearts (sigh) :cry:

 

Something tells me...this Murton kid will be right there with Bay. Maybe not much with the power, but all-around skills. I like Jason Bay, and I would trade Scott Rolen, Anthony Reyes, and Yadier Molina (cause Pujols would be overpaying) for Bay....and the Cards get Todd Walker, Jose Macias, and Mark Redman. That's a fair trade. :lol:

[Andy]

well...

hes gonna get more chances to beat up on us and break our hearts (sigh) :cry:

 

Something tells me...this Murton kid will be right there with Bay. Maybe not much with the power, but all-around skills. I like Jason Bay, and I would trade Scott Rolen, Anthony Reyes, and Yadier Molina (cause Pujols would be overpaying) for Bay....and the Cards get Todd Walker, Jose Macias, and Mark Redman. That's a fair trade. :lol:

Good point NSAvenger. Murton has the tools, the plate discipline, and if the end of 2005 showed us anything, maybe even the power to be right on Bay's level. Now whether he is able to do that or if he becomes another minor-league Cubs bust, we shall see. I'd bet closer to the former.

[rawaction]

well...

hes gonna get more chances to beat up on us and break our hearts (sigh) :cry:

 

Something tells me...this Murton kid will be right there with Bay. Maybe not much with the power, but all-around skills. I like Jason Bay, and I would trade Scott Rolen, Anthony Reyes, and Yadier Molina (cause Pujols would be overpaying) for Bay....and the Cards get Todd Walker, Jose Macias, and Mark Redman. That's a fair trade. :lol:

Good point NSAvenger. Murton has the tools, the plate discipline, and if the end of 2005 showed us anything, maybe even the power to be right on Bay's level. Now whether he is able to do that or if he becomes another minor-league Cubs bust, we shall see. I'd bet closer to the former.

 

Interesting comparison. Bay is much more athletic than Murton though, although Matt has surprising athletic ability for his size. I don't think Murton has the wingspan of Bay, though, or the ability to take the ball out to all parts of the park. I'd settle for Murton becoming a poor man's Jason Bay.