Bradley Could Be a Non-Tendered ?!?!?

[USSoccer]

If he's nontendered, he's a free agent and thus completely at liberty to sign with anyone.

 

Why not throw the Dodgers some value so you're ensured that he's your property*?

 

*that phrase will go over very well with Mr. Bradley, I'm sure!

 

Sure that's one way you could go about it, and I'm not saying that's bad at all. Hoops was talking about shying away from Bradley because of player cost, and I pointed out that it might not be necessary if he's non-tendered.

 

I'd rather make sure I got him and give the Dodgers some of our bulk arms.

[St.Paul Cub]

Understood, but despite what the link says, I doubt the Dodgers would non-tender him. There are enough teams needing a CF with a decent bat that someone will surely offer the Dodgers a trade just to make sure the Yankees don't get first dibs if he's non-tendered, and becomes a free agent.

 

Then maybe Hendry should use the Rule 5 guys for something useful before we lose them.

 

Great point. I think we have plenty of guys to trade that would qualify as "better than nothing" to the Dodgers.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If he's nontendered, he's a free agent and thus completely at liberty to sign with anyone.

 

Why not throw the Dodgers some value so you're ensured that he's your property*?

 

*that phrase will go over very well with Mr. Bradley, I'm sure!

 

Sure that's one way you could go about it, and I'm not saying that's bad at all. Hoops was talking about shying away from Bradley because of player cost, and I pointed out that it might not be necessary if he's non-tendered.

 

I'd rather make sure I got him and give the Dodgers some of our bulk arms.

 

Yeah, I'd probably rather do that too, I was just responding to the mindset that Hoops laid out.

[The Voice of Reason]

According to this, Bradley will be non-tendered if he isn't traded.

 

The Dodgers are looking to deal Milton Bradley, a talented 27-year-old switch-hitting center fielder, whose temper has led to major problems in Cleveland and L.A. If they can't trade Bradley, they aren't expected to tender him a contract by Dec. 20. That would make him a free agent, but if the Yankees are interested, it would be easier to acquire Bradley via trade, since the Dodgers aren't looking for much.

 

This goes on to suggest the Dodgers wouldn't want much in return for Bradley, especially if they might non-tender him. The Cubs should be all over him.

 

He'd break up the good chemistry that they have...I'd pass.

 

 

How did "clubhouse cancer" A. J. Pierzynski work out for the White Sox this year?

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

According to this, Bradley will be non-tendered if he isn't traded.

 

The Dodgers are looking to deal Milton Bradley, a talented 27-year-old switch-hitting center fielder, whose temper has led to major problems in Cleveland and L.A. If they can't trade Bradley, they aren't expected to tender him a contract by Dec. 20. That would make him a free agent, but if the Yankees are interested, it would be easier to acquire Bradley via trade, since the Dodgers aren't looking for much.

 

This goes on to suggest the Dodgers wouldn't want much in return for Bradley, especially if they might non-tender him. The Cubs should be all over him.

 

He'd break up the good chemistry that they have...I'd pass.

 

 

How did "clubhouse cancer" A. J. Pierzynski work out for the White Sox this year?

 

So the right way is to emulate the WS champs? How many WS champs have there been and how many different approaches did they take? I don't get it.

[snoodmonger]

Playing it safe will only mean we'll have to count on career years to win a title. Hendry needs to think bigger than Kenny Lofton.

Why? Any CF is just a stop-gap rental for Pie. No reason to think big at the only position out of which the farm is expected to produce an all-star.

 

Because there's no reason to accept a mediocre to bad stopgap when a good stopgap is available.

 

Because Bradley gives us a better chance to win next year. No reason to wait for Pie to come up before we assemble a good team.

 

(For the record, I'm fine with Lofton if that's who we get. But I'd prefer to cough up a couple of guys clogging the 40 man and get Bradley.)

[CubinNY]

IMO, there is no way Hendry even thinks about getting Bradley, no matter how much some of us want him too.

 

Try putting yourself in Hendry's position:

 

1: He has a young CF that might have been brought up this year if he had not be hurt- I didn't like the idea, but if one believes the media it was true.

 

2: he spent all last year ridding the team of supposed malcontents that Mr. Playersmanager couldn't control.

 

I would be more than shocked if Bradley becomes a Cub.

Edited November 7, 2005 by CubinNY

[BigbadB]

IMO, there is no way Hendry even thinks about getting Bradley, no matter how much some of us want him to.

 

Try putting yourself in Hendry's position:

 

1: He has a young CF that might have been brought up this year if he had not be hurt- I didn't like the idea, but if one believes the media it was true.

 

2: he spent all last year ridding the team of supposed malcontents that Mr. Playersmanager couldn't control.

 

I would be more than shocked if Bradley becomes a Cub.

 

Of the players labeled malcontents, how many were considered malcontents prior to their arrival in Wrigleyville?

 

None! Me thinks that Dusty breeds malcontentia.

 

Wasn't it the same year that Bonds and Kent got into a cat fight that the Giants went to the World Series?

[CubinNY]

IMO, there is no way Hendry even thinks about getting Bradley, no matter how much some of us want him too.

 

Try putting yourself in Hendry's position:

 

1: He has a young CF that might have been brought up this year if he had not be hurt- I didn't like the idea, but if one believes the media it was true.

 

2: he spent all last year ridding the team of supposed malcontents that Mr. Playersmanager couldn't control.

 

I would be more than shocked if Bradley becomes a Cub.

 

Of the players labeled malcontents, how many were considered malcontents prior to their arrival in Wrigleyville?

 

None! Me thinks that Dusty breeds malcontentia.

 

Wasn't it the same year that Bonds and Kent got into a cat fight that the Giants went to the World Series?

 

No doubt. I'm trying to think like I think Hendry thinks. If you know what I mean :D

[SCCubbieFAN]

Even if the Cubs can swing a trade with LA for Bradley, he still is not under contract so Hendry will either have to work out a deal with him or tender him.

Either way, it will cost the Cubs prospects plus a new deal for Bradley, albeit a one year deal. Any guesses what Bradley might get with arbitration?

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Even if the Cubs can swing a trade with LA for Bradley, he still is not under contract so Hendry will either have to work out a deal with him or tender him.

Either way, it will cost the Cubs prospects plus a new deal for Bradley, albeit a one year deal. Any guesses what Bradley might get with arbitration?

This is what he made LY:

 

 

 

Milton Bradley: signed deal for 2005 season worth 2.5M on 1/4/04- + he can make 750K in performance bonuses based on games and PA

[Backtobanks]

If we can get him cheap, go for it. If he acts like a jerk, as of now we still have Patterson and Hairston to play CF. Sign Furcal and get an impact player for RF (Giles ??) you have a very good lineup with depth and plenty of players as trade bait (Walker, Patterson, Rusch/Williams, any Rule 5 players left, prospects).

[SouthSideRyan]

Giving up a prospect for Bradley isn't my problem. The problem is I think we could save about 1M by not having to go thru arbitration with him if we wait for the non-tender.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Giving up a prospect for Bradley isn't my problem. The problem is I think we could save about 1M by not having to go thru arbitration with him if we wait for the non-tender.

 

the gamble is that there are plenty of teams out there that won't wait for the non-tender. the dodgers will get something in return for bradley.

[CubfaninCA]

The chances of Hendry getting Bradley are slim and none.

 

Since their best prospect is a centerfielder, Bradley's basically a stop-gap. Hendry will opt for other alternatives instead of a hothead.

 

EDIT: Also, if the Cubs deal w/ LA, I have a feeling that they'll try to get Kent and Lowe.

[SCCubbieFAN]

Giving up a prospect for Bradley isn't my problem. The problem is I think we could save about 1M by not having to go thru arbitration with him if we wait for the non-tender.

 

SSR: If Bradley is non-tendered, he becomes a FA. Then the Cubs will have to bid against other teams for his services. IMO, Bradley will get more being a FA than he will in arbitration. Just my opinion.

[Sabermetrician]

According to this, Bradley will be non-tendered if he isn't traded.

 

Since the beginning of this offseason my dream lineup has been Castillo, Bradley, Lee, Ramirez, Giles, Garciaparra, Murton, Barrett; I realize that this won't happen, but I'd be pretty happy if we got Bradley!

[Outshined_One]

Besides, has Bradley ever had a problem with teammates? Jose Guillen wasn't even allowed on the postseason roster last year because of some falling out, then he went to Washington and people raved about how good a guy he was.

 

He's had well-documented problems with Jeff Kent in LA.

 

Now, whether you think that falls on Bradley or Kent is another matter altogether...

[JeffH]

Bradley will likely get about $4 this season.

[SouthSideRyan]

Giving up a prospect for Bradley isn't my problem. The problem is I think we could save about 1M by not having to go thru arbitration with him if we wait for the non-tender.

 

SSR: If Bradley is non-tendered, he becomes a FA. Then the Cubs will have to bid against other teams for his services. IMO, Bradley will get more being a FA than he will in arbitration. Just my opinion.

 

I disagree, I see him getting 4M+ in arbitration, and I think his clubhouse problems are going to make him greatly undervalued on the open market.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

What "clubhouse problems" does Milton Bradley have? Other than Jeff Kent--a well-known jerk--I don't know of any clubhouse issues regarding Bradley. Now, incidents with the fans, incidents with the local police, these I am aware of.

 

It's baseball, not the Vatican, Bradley can play and he's cheap. He's a legitimate option were I the GM.

[SouthSideRyan]

What "clubhouse problems" does Milton Bradley have? Other than Jeff Kent--a well-known jerk--I don't know of any clubhouse issues regarding Bradley. Now, incidents with the fans, incidents with the local police, these I am aware of.

 

It's baseball, not the Vatican, Bradley can play and he's cheap. He's a legitimate option were I the GM.

 

Same if I was, but you honestly don't think that his antics are gonna cost him money in the open market?

[USSoccer]

Bruce, I see you lurking. Any info on this that you're privy to? :D

[SouthSideRyan]

Come on US, let us be blissfully ignorant for a little while longer.

[biittner77]

I'm torn on this one. On the one hand I agree with what NY is saying about character being important to Hendry. On the other hand, Hendry also likes guys that can play. Aramis Ramirez had some work ethic questions but Hendry still went out and got him. Similarly, Walker seemed to wear out his welcome on multiple clubs.