NFL Week 1

[Rcal10]

16 hours ago, soccer10k said:

Do we know the Bears can win because of Caleb? They went 11-6 with the point differential of a 9-8 team while leading the league with a +22 turnover margin (only four other teams were even +10). Like would we be saying that if the Bears went 8-9 and missed the playoffs last year like they probably should have?

We don’t know anything. I said “I think”, which means that is my opinion. So yes, IMO, Caleb is or will be the type of QB a team wins games because of having him. Feel free to disagree, if that is your opinion. 

[Geographyhater8888]

49 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

We don’t know anything. I said “I think”, which means that is my opinion. So yes, IMO, Caleb is or will be the type of QB a team wins games because of having him. Feel free to disagree, if that is your opinion. 

I wonder what the perception of Caleb would be nationally with more even quarter splits.

Edited yesterday at 11:56 AM by Geographyhater8888

[BigSlick]

16 hours ago, soccer10k said:

Historically great based on what exactly?

He led the league in INT% (behind Penix but he only played 9 games) and his season was 33rd all time. In 2024 he was third in the league.

He fumbled 9 times, which was more than Hurts, Maye, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence and Dart despite those four all having more rushing attempts than him. All four of those guys got sacked more than Caleb as well. Best I can tell, the Bears fumbled 13 times but only lost 4 of them.

Meanwhile they lead the league with 23 interceptions despite not being the best defensive team.

Don't want to make it seem like Williams sucks. He may very well turn into a superstar. I just don't think we know that Caleb is a guy you win because of while Maye isn't (though it's certainly possible that sentiment turns out to be correct).

"Historically great" in that he has the best Interception% in his first 1,000 passes in the history of the NFL, that's what I mean by that. Literally nobody in NFL history has been better than him. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/bears-caleb-williams-broke-crazy-134330602.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE4jXPpLRghVioDdES1CECosi8kJbGproD6GL2rQTOqWTWFDkIqvzRD5I3Aes9ZlN8EZlcerDFSLbJwO2wJKzfQBbBOJ4oY2CaxeOUWiWzaNrk3GTEFYq74BDOnNFqEyFgMmNDGAh8Rz4rukyFQitIDneTk4sfdIhEvlcYYe3QQz