Cubs (Imanaga) vs Reds (Greene): 7/10/26, 6:10pm

[Brandon Glick]

Final series before the All-Star Break!

	SUN	MON	TUE	WED	THU	TOT
Tyler Ferguson	9	0	8	0	9	26
Trent Thornton	0	0	14	6	0	20
Ryan Rolison	20	0	27	0	13	60
Javier Assad	80	0	0	0	0	80
Jacob Webb	27	0	7	9	0	43
Gavin Hollowell	0	0	0	0	28	28
Drew Pomeranz	13	0	0	22	0	35
Caleb Thielbar	0	0	0	21	6	27

[Bertz]

Greene is awesome but was clearly rusty his first outing.  Hopefully it takes one more outing before he finds his footing.

We tend to either whoop his ass or he whoops ours, not a lot of 5 IP 2ER type of outings.

[PeanutPunch33]

It would be awesome to wake up one of these days and see the update on my phone

"Cubs acquire Joe Ryan in 4 player trade" 

[CubUgly]

13 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Greene is awesome but was clearly rusty his first outing.  Hopefully it takes one more outing before he finds his footing.

We tend to either whoop his ass or he whoops ours, not a lot of 5 IP 2ER type of outings.

His velocity was fine but his control was whack.   Let's hope that continues. 

[Jason Ross]

14 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

It would be awesome to wake up one of these days and see the update on my phone

"Cubs acquire Joe Ryan in 4 player trade" 

Probably won't happen until August, so don't get your hopes up. As much as the Twins aren't good, even at 46-48 they're two games back of the White Sox who also, just aren't very good, and are in first place. The AL is terrible but it's letting under .500 teams fart around relevancy and they're just not selling until the last moment or they go on ten game streak of dropping eight of them. 

If you want an early deadline deal it's basically: Royals, Angels, Orioles, Mets, Rockies, Giants as your shopping spots as I think all of these teams are way out of it and probably aren't going to convince themselves they're getting back in. Boston probably belongs here but I don't think they're going to throw in the towel mentally yet, same with the Padres. It will also allow these teams to ask for significant overpays.

Your fringe teams like the Tigers, Twins, Red Sox, Padres, Blue Jays, Nationals (as examples) will be happy to float along for a few weeks to see if they can have the opposite of the situation above with the Twins; a good eight of ten run that puts them in buying positions. 

As for the Cubs, they're probably going to wait a few weeks too. They'll let the Angels or the Giants get a little more uncomfortable to hope for a Detmers or Webb trade, allow Taillon, Palencia and maybe Cabrera get back up and running and then assess. 

[PeanutPunch33]

16 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Probably won't happen until August, so don't get your hopes up. As much as the Twins aren't good, even at 46-48 they're two games back of the White Sox who also, just aren't very good, and are in first place. The AL is terrible but it's letting under .500 teams fart around relevancy and they're just not selling until the last moment or they go on ten game streak of dropping eight of them. 

If you want an early deadline deal it's basically: Royals, Angels, Orioles, Mets, Rockies, Giants as your shopping spots as I think all of these teams are way out of it and probably aren't going to convince themselves they're getting back in. Boston probably belongs here but I don't think they're going to throw in the towel mentally yet, same with the Padres. 

Your fringe teams like the Tigers, Twins, Red Sox, Padres, Blue Jays, Nationals (as examples) will be happy to float along for a few weeks to see if they can have the opposite of the situation above with the Twins; a good eight of ten run that puts them in buying positions. 

True.. the AL is awful this year.  

I'm starting to like your Detmers idea a lot.  Get that guy in a real organization that can develop guys and he might be an ace.  Hopefully with a new GM, they'd seriously consider it.  Given the uncertainty around 2027, that might be the best move they can make.  

[Rcal10]

45 minutes ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

True.. the AL is awful this year.  

I'm starting to like your Detmers idea a lot.  Get that guy in a real organization that can develop guys and he might be an ace.  Hopefully with a new GM, they'd seriously consider it.  Given the uncertainty around 2027, that might be the best move they can make.  

He would be my preferred target. For one, he is on a team that absolutely should be selling. With the weak AL so many teams can be convinced they are in the race. Sesondly, I want that extra year of control he has over Ryan, as an example. There is no reason he can’t be traded even now, if the Cubs provide the Angels a package they want. Cubs got Addison Russell over the 4th of July weekend back in ‘14. Deals can be made now. 

[bukie]

The AL is so weak that the 47-45 White Sox not only make the playoffs, but win the division and get the bye as the 2 seed.

[PeanutPunch33]

4 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

He would be my preferred target. For one, he is on a team that absolutely should be selling. With the weak AL so many teams can be convinced they are in the race. Sesondly, I want that extra year of control he has over Ryan, as an example. There is no reason he can’t be traded even now, if the Cubs provide the Angels a package they want. Cubs got Addison Russell over the 4th of July weekend back in ‘14. Deals can be made now. 

The Angels are also a crap organization that doesn't invest properly in its players or develop them.  They don't have a pitching lab.  For a guy to have a sub 3.4 FIP in his last 160 IP from that organization shows the pure talent.  He has major upside moving forward.  

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Is there a package for Detmers that doesn't include Hartshorn or Conrad? I'm not sure I wanna do that, but maybe I'm just prospect hugging

[Dfan25]

Starting to worry that there won’t be too many sellers with the Red Sox and Twins getting closer to contention . How many sellers do we have ? Orioles , Royals , Angels , Giants , Rockies , Mets ? 
 

 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

18 minutes ago, Dfan25 said:

Starting to worry that there won’t be too many sellers with the Red Sox and Twins getting closer to contention . How many sellers do we have ? Orioles , Royals , Angels , Giants , Rockies , Mets ? 
 

 

Yeah, and who on that list has anything you'd be really interested in? Players you'd actually think could put you in a position to challenge the Dodgers. Just feels like it's gonna be a big nothing

[Backtobanks]

43 minutes ago, Dfan25 said:

Starting to worry that there won’t be too many sellers with the Red Sox and Twins getting closer to contention . How many sellers do we have ? Orioles , Royals , Angels , Giants , Rockies , Mets ? 
 

 

More of a reason to make a trade now before those borderline contenders get involved in the trade market.

[Jason Ross]

12 minutes ago, Backtobanks said:

More of a reason to make a trade now before those borderline contenders get involved in the trade market.

The same argument can be used for why you can't make a trade. If we are worried about teams entering the fray, we have to wait for some of the floating around teams to drop out. 

The Twins just added a reliever today via trade. Teams are going to either have to decide to drop out or the Cubs to pay for it. So they're a bit damned either way. 

If they can make a trade now great. But it really might take a few weeks. 

[chibears55]

Anyone know why the Redsox were delayed in Chicago until a couple hours ago ?

They have a game in NY against the mets in 35 minutes

[chibears55]

Be nice to see a big series out of Happ and Busch this weekend 

[chopsx9]

Good Morning

Good Afternoon

Good Night.

[Papa Cub]

Hunter Greene looks to be on a mission to recover from the shelling last week. Didn’t even hide he was throwing heaters to PCA and the boys 

[Eeyore]

How many homers does Shota give up today?

[Derwood]

One of my pirate sites got busted 

[cl smooth]

This camera angle is such horseshit. 

[Papa Cub]

Just now, cl smooth said:

This camera angle is such horseshit. 

I watched them against the Phillies last night, and this angle sucks. Like a mile between the mound and the plate it appears 😆 

[PeanutPunch33]

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[Papa Cub]

Fuggin Suarez - I remember his 3 homer game last season against us 

[mk49]

2 minutes ago, Papa Cub said:

Fuggin Suarez - I remember his 3 homer game last season against us 

Yeah, that was something.