Reds (Petty) vs Cubs (Cabrera): 5/4/26, 6:10pm

[Brandon Glick]

Chase Petty has NOT been good in the big leagues. Let's feast, fellas.

	WED	THU	FRI	SAT	SUN	TOT
Ryan Rolison	0	0	25	0	0	25
Phil Maton	0	0	11	0	25	36
Javier Assad	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jacob Webb	0	0	36	0	0	36
Hoby Milner	3	0	0	0	15	18
Corbin Martin	19	0	0	0	26	45
Ben Brown	11	0	0	24	0	35

[Outshined_One]

Storms will apparently be in the area around 7 PM, so we'll see if they get this one in on time.

[CubinNY]

Kind of a big series. I remember going to a lot of games in the early 1990s while I was in undergrad, and the Reds fans would fill up Wrigley and be obnoxious as hell. So, horsefeathers the Reds, let's destroy them. 

[Hunter]

9 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Kind of a big series. I remember going to a lot of games in the early 1990s while I was in undergrad, and the Reds fans would fill up Wrigley and be obnoxious as hell. So, horsefeathers the Reds, let's destroy them. 

Pretty odd. I've always remembered Cubs fans outnumbering Reds fans in Cincinnati. Especially as the season progressed. I know this one is in Chiacago though.

 

[Bertz]

I have no idea what the Reds were thinking not lining up Burns to pitch in this series.  

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

55 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Storms will apparently be in the area around 7 PM, so we'll see if they get this one in on time.

 

[KCCub]

There goes the Skubal TDL dream (Or does it?)

 

 

[Outshined_One]

4 minutes ago, KCCub said:

There goes the Skubal TDL dream (Or does it?)

 

 

Would you really want the Cubs to pin their October hopes on two rehabbing SPs fresh off elbow surgery?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

4 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Would you really want the Cubs to pin their October hopes on two rehabbing SPs fresh off elbow surgery?

I doubt the TIgers would trade him anyway. They could be .500 the rest of the year and still win their division.

[PeanutPunch33]

OT but kinda Cubs relevant:  Joe Ryan left his start yesterday in the first inning with either a forearm or elbow injury.  I've seen his name come up in July trade ideas.  Unfortunately wouldn't surprise me if his injury is serious the way he reacted.  

[squally1313]

8 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Would you really want the Cubs to pin their October hopes on two rehabbing SPs fresh off elbow surgery?

Is the alternative Jameson Taillon?

[mul21]

8 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Is the alternative Jameson Taillon?

His elbow is currently intact at least.

[KCCub]

8 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Would you really want the Cubs to pin their October hopes on two rehabbing SPs fresh off elbow surgery?

There's absolutely a narrow path that I would be for the Cubs taking a risk on Skubal. So many factors in play though that it's tough to answer that question right now. 

[squally1313]

17 minutes ago, mul21 said:

His elbow is currently intact at least.

Point taken. But a rehabbing Skubal with 2 months left on his contract probably costs you like...Kane Kepley. I take that shot every time. 

[Rcal10]

8 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Point taken. But a rehabbing Skubal with 2 months left on his contract probably costs you like...Kane Kepley. I take that shot every time. 

He will be more than that. Someone will give something much better than that, regardless of if it makes sense or not. Kepley isn’t any better than the QO pick they get when Skubal declines the offer. So why would they do that? 

[Outshined_One]

3 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

He will be more than that. Someone will give something much better than that, regardless of if it makes sense or not. Kepley isn’t any better than the QO pick they get when Skubal declines the offer. So why would they do that? 

I was mulling Skubal's value over and a weird thought occurred to me: with the looming offseason lockout and new CBA likely to be in place come 2027, will qualifying offers even matter?  The Tigers would obviously get the comp pick if Skubal signed before the lockout, but what happens if he's unsigned?

[squally1313]

5 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

He will be more than that. Someone will give something much better than that, regardless of if it makes sense or not. Kepley isn’t any better than the QO pick they get when Skubal declines the offer. So why would they do that? 

I mean, whatever. The point was clearly not to debate which of our blocked offensive prospects we would or would not trade for some hypothetical version of Skubal in a few months. It was that we should absolutely take a swing on a guy capable of being an elite playoff starter because our fourth starter has a 5.95 FIP at the moment and two of our top three starters were borderline unpitchable by September last year. 

[Bertz]

4 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

I was mulling Skubal's value over and a weird thought occurred to me: with the looming offseason lockout and new CBA likely to be in place come 2027, will qualifying offers even matter?  The Tigers would obviously get the comp pick if Skubal signed before the lockout, but what happens if he's unsigned?

Setting aside that I think the talk around CBA round is just a lot of hot air, damn near every FA SP of note signed before the shutdown last go around.  Stroman was the last impact guy standing and we got him right at the wire.

[mul21]

9 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Setting aside that I think the talk around CBA round is just a lot of hot air, damn near every FA SP of note signed before the shutdown last go around.  Stroman was the last impact guy standing and we got him right at the wire.

Is the deadline December 31st?

[mk49]

14 minutes ago, mul21 said:

Is the deadline December 31st?

I think it's Dec 1st.

[Rcal10]

31 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

I mean, whatever. The point was clearly not to debate which of our blocked offensive prospects we would or would not trade for some hypothetical version of Skubal in a few months. It was that we should absolutely take a swing on a guy capable of being an elite playoff starter because our fourth starter has a 5.95 FIP at the moment and two of our top three starters were borderline unpitchable by September last year. 

I agree. But it is a different conversation if the Kepley is the 3rd piece of the trade offer instead of the only piece. 

Didn’t the Nationals want Shaw and Horton for Gore?

I expect cost to be ridiculous again. 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

3 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Didn’t the Nationals want Shaw and Horton for Gore?

Yes, but Gore had 2.5 years of club control left at the time.

[squally1313]

2 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

I agree. But it is a different conversation if the Kepley is the 3rd piece of the trade offer instead of the only piece. 

Didn’t the Nationals want Shaw and Horton for Gore?

I expect cost to be ridiculous again. 

I don't really know why that's become this like, hard and fast baseline in terms of what it's going to take to acquire any good starting pitcher. The trade didn't happen. It was a negotiation. There's some middle ground between 'there was a rumor from writers that one team was demanding 2 top 75 prospects in a trade that didn't happen' and 'the best prospect traded for not-Mason Miller was a single A pitcher who some thought, maybe, would sneak onto top 100 lists at the end of the year'. 

Also what Plaid said above, which makes that very much an apples and oranges comparison. 

[BKHoo]

Over is 11.5 runs tonight.  It's expected to be high scoring game. 

[squally1313]

Starting to look pretty questionable 20 miles west of Chicago so is might be generally doubtful.