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So when do you think the next possible time a stadium deal gets done?

Is this Illinois calling the Bears bluff on Indiana? It will probably be another 6 months for them to pass a bill now. They must not think Bears are serious moving to a toxic waste site

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3 hours ago, Brian707 said:

So when do you think the next possible time a stadium deal gets done?

Is this Illinois calling the Bears bluff on Indiana? It will probably be another 6 months for them to pass a bill now. They must not think Bears are serious moving to a toxic waste site

I mean they could call a special session at any time.

At this point is really comes down to how viable Hammond is (soil testing but also traffic study and site plan + infrastructure needs that wouldn't be in the NWI stadium authority).

 

I've never thought Hammond was a bluff only, but legit interest does not equal a done deal. Bears would have had nothing to lose in past few months leaking any level of detail.  That they haven't means either those details aren't ready or that they didn't feel the need to put pressure on Illinois.  

 

An early summer deadline wouldn't be Warren's first missed deadline in this whole process if it comes and goes with no decision....

 

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I was vehemently against them going to Indiana, but if Illinois politicians are this inept, then horsefeathers it, I don't blame them if they move out of state.

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The last thing Illinois legislators... especially downstate legislators... want to do is to explain to their constituents why it's giving the Bears money. And make no mistake about this... the Bears (and the NFL in general) are looking for government handouts at every turn despite being a multi-billion dollar business. 

The Bears actually did very little with downstate legislators to "grease the skids" on a deal. Very little lobbying on their part. Kevin Warren simply believed being "The Bears" and having a deal in place with Indiana was more than enough to get what he wanted from the state. He was very wrong. 

I want the Bears to stay in Illinois. The Bears want to stay in Illinois and play in a new stadium. Ultimately, they will. They're just not getting everything they want.

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1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

I was vehemently against them going to Indiana, but if Illinois politicians are this inept, then horsefeathers it, I don't blame them if they move out of state.

In this case if their ineptness kept them from a bad financial deal... I'll take it.  Bears really haven't produced a real shred of evidence that a good deal even existed for IL. And while I can't say what was Bears and what was Prtizker or House, that PILOT bill was a mess in a way that even normal bad stadium deals rarely are.

 

Also my impression is that in this entire 4+ year saga some people are interpreting "no's" as IL pols dragging their feet or whatever. But longest time was still spent on a SF plan with one fairly powerless backer. Before shifting back to AH and a terrible PILOT bill.

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25 minutes ago, Banedon said:

Kevin Warren convinced the McCaskeys to spend on Ben Johnson. But everything else he’s done with the Bears has been terrible and he needs to be fired.

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34 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Kevin Warren convinced the McCaskeys to spend on Ben Johnson. But everything else he’s done with the Bears has been terrible and he needs to be fired.

Yeah, outside of that one huge thing, his tenure has been an unmitigated disaster, both in PR and actions.  He comes off as a self-important douche and the sooner they send him packing the better.

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