Guardians (Bibee) vs Cubs (Imanaga): 7/2/25, 7:05pm

[UMFan83]

Just for fun, the Cubs need to go 39-37 the rest of the season to win 90 games.  

[cubfansince77]

12 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Just for fun, the Cubs need to go 39-37 the rest of the season to win 90 games.  

Good stat but Brewers gonna win 90+ IMO so....there's that 

[BigbadB]

8 hours ago, Cubs206 said:

Can we get a closer that actually shuts the game down without nonsense lol 

Show me a closer with a 0.00 ERA for the season. EVER? Or how about a closer with a 0.00 WHIP?

It's baseball. The other team is doing everything they can to score because they to do not want to lose. If Shaw doesn't miss that groundball, this inning is probably uneventful. But, it's baseball. A guy is going to misplay a ball from time to time, even at unfortunate times. Occasionally, it will cost the Cubs a game. Palencia is not without flaws, but I'm quite happy with the results of him basically being thrust into the position due to poor results by the others given that same opportunity.

[Wilson A2000]

PCA was credited with a triple last night because the ump called him out after he was past the bag at 3B? 

[CubUgly]

12 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

Really wild that Baez and PCA are going to be ASG starting OFers on opposing teams.

Good for Javy, he had really hit rock bottom, to the point that I think if he did not start producing early this year he was gonna be DFA'd.   Comeback story of the year. 

[Jason Ross]

9 hours ago, gflore34 said:

True, I've watched Mason Miller have such struggles on a couple of occasions this season.

Entirely! Another example, we saw Josh Hader twice in Houston (one time for a full inning). He was really dominant in those four batters he faced. But on June 22nd and June 19th, in both appearances he surrendered runs to the Angels (two in this appearance) and the A's in save situations, giving up a combined three hits, and two walks. Hader has been one of the most dominant closers in baseball. 

From a Cub-perspective, that's (likely) the last time we see Hader all year. You'd believe, based on those two appearances that Hader has somehow been impervious to nights like Palencia had last night, When...it's a lot closer than what it seems. We just see every outing Palencia has compared to not seeing the June 19th and June 22nd Hader struggles.

[Rcal10]

10 hours ago, Cubs206 said:

Can we get a closer that actually shuts the game down without nonsense lol 

I guess I am the only one who read this as if you were trying to be funny. The lol at the end of this response had me thinking you said this sarcastically because of how good Palencia had been until a little nervousness last night. Am I wrong, or did countless poster explaining to you how good Palencia has been and how no closer is perfect 1,2,3 all the time, miss the sarcasm? 

[Ding Dong Johnson]

1 hour ago, Wilson A2000 said:

PCA was credited with a triple last night because the ump called him out after he was past the bag at 3B? 

Correct. 

[Wilson A2000]

6 minutes ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

Correct. 

I thought they had him before he hit the bag, but it was a delayed call so I didn’t know for sure

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Guardians will need a new starter tonight.

[Jason Ross]

1 minute ago, itisallpartoftheplan said:

Guardians will need a new starter tonight.

Well...that's bananas. 

[UMFan83]

13 minutes ago, itisallpartoftheplan said:

Guardians will need a new starter tonight.

They are calling up Joey Cantillo who is, surprise, a LHP.  

He seems like a 2-3 inning reliever so I'm not sure if he'll go super long.  I'd keep Busch in there, especially because one of their 2 LHP in the pen threw 3 innings last night and the other 0.2 IP.  Also Busch had a solid line drive hit against a LHP last night.

Edited July 3, 2025 by UMFan83

[CubUgly]

1 hour ago, Jason Ross said:

Entirely! Another example, we saw Josh Hader twice in Houston (one time for a full inning). He was really dominant in those four batters he faced. But on June 22nd and June 19th, in both appearances he surrendered runs to the Angels (two in this appearance) and the A's in save situations, giving up a combined three hits, and two walks. Hader has been one of the most dominant closers in baseball. 

From a Cub-perspective, that's (likely) the last time we see Hader all year. You'd believe, based on those two appearances that Hader has somehow been impervious to nights like Palencia had last night, When...it's a lot closer than what it seems. We just see every outing Palencia has compared to not seeing the June 19th and June 22nd Hader struggles.

The game Friday night Hader only faced Happ but Happ hit a laser to center, but it found a glove of course. 

[Jason Ross]

8 minutes ago, CubUgly said:

The game Friday night Hader only faced Happ but Happ hit a laser to center, but it found a glove of course. 

Right. But youre missing the point. If all you did was view it from a Cubs lens, Hader faced four hitters, didn't allow a base runner, and the worst outcome was a lineout. He was never in any serious trouble. 

Just a few days prior he surrendered runs to bad Angel's and A's teams. But unless youre an Astros, Angel's, or A's fan, you'd probably never know that Hader had outings like Palencia did in the past two weeks.

[Bertz]

41 minutes ago, itisallpartoftheplan said:

Guardians will need a new starter tonight.

That sound ominous as hell and the thing that came immediately to mind is that Pirates reliever who was sniffing around those teenage girls

[Jason Ross]

5 minutes ago, Bertz said:

That sound ominous as hell and the thing that came immediately to mind is that Pirates reliever who was sniffing around those teenage girls

Yeah, whatever *this* is, feels like it's beyond your standard "IDK, this guy on something?" thing. 

For everyone potentially involved, I hope it comes out that nothing like that occurred. 

[UMFan83]

9 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Yeah, whatever *this* is, feels like it's beyond your standard "IDK, this guy on something?" thing. 

For everyone potentially involved, I hope it comes out that nothing like that occurred. 

My first thought was gambling but maybe it was because I didn't want to think about something more disturbing.

[Jason Ross]

26 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

My first thought was gambling but maybe it was because I didn't want to think about something more disturbing.

Ah yeah, could be that too! Gambling has become such a weird thing across sports. Only time for baseball to start getting nailed with it again.

[Andy]

12 hours ago, gflore34 said:

True, I've watched Mason Miller have such struggles on a couple of occasions this season.

Miller has low-key kinda stunk this year, I happened to have the end of an A's game on recently and his numbers are not good at all.

[Stratos]

14 hours ago, BKHoo said:

Swanson is an embarrassment with RISP. 

Bat the man 8th again.  He did great there. 

[Stratos]

14 hours ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Does Quentin Barry need to be halfway to home to tell Seiya to keep going?

I think maybe Berry  wanted to direct him if/where to slide?

I don't get these 3b coaches running all over the foul line.  If I'm a baserunner running toward 3b I'd like to know to exactly where the 3b coach will be every single time instead of having to search for him.

PCA definitely didn't know the throw was coming to 3b, maybe he expected it going to home.  Still should slide though.

Not sure Berry is gonna be around next year.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

32 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

Ah yeah, could be that too! Gambling has become such a weird thing across sports. Only time for baseball to start getting nailed with it again.

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[cubfansince77]

14 minutes ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

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Edited July 3, 2025 by cubfansince77
left out a few facts

[itisallpartoftheplan]

 

[CubUgly]

3 hours ago, Jason Ross said:

Right. But youre missing the point. If all you did was view it from a Cubs lens, Hader faced four hitters, didn't allow a base runner, and the worst outcome was a lineout. He was never in any serious trouble. 

Just a few days prior he surrendered runs to bad Angel's and A's teams. But unless youre an Astros, Angel's, or A's fan, you'd probably never know that Hader had outings like Palencia did in the past two weeks.

I thought I got your point - Hader is not invincible - right?  I agree.