Starting rotation options available now

[Bertz]

7 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

If the top option available was a lefty would that be less attractive for you?  I saw Gore from the Nats mentioned in an article here recently.  No doubter to add a pitcher of his caliber with team control, but would it be an issue to have your top 3 starters entering a playoff series (Shota, Gore, Boyd) all being LHP?  For some matchups it might be an advantage but others it might be a death sentence. 

Every NL playoff hopeful except Philly is worse vs. LHP than RHP, and Philly is very nearly flat.  So if anything a lefty would be a positive unless/until we got to the World Series (the AL is kinda the opposite where they all mash lefties).

I'm willing to take that chance

[UMFan83]

2 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Every NL playoff hopeful except Philly is worse vs. LHP than RHP, and Philly is very nearly flat.  So if anything a lefty would be a positive unless/until we got to the World Series (the AL is kinda the opposite where they all mash lefties).

I'm willing to take that chance

yeah I just edited my post to point that out.  It might actually be a great year to load up on lefties to get through the NL.  

Possibly the 3 best teams in the AL (NYY, DET, HOU) seem to hit much better against LHP than RHP, but I'll gladly take that problem if it means we're in the World Series.

Edited July 11, 2025 by UMFan83

[squally1313]

Horton has reverse splits, as does Taillon this year (but looks like an aberration), but something like a fixed, max effort Ben Brown waiting in the wings to shut down an all righty line up for a few innings would be a good add to that mix. 

[Randall Simon]

Sharma mentioned Jon Gray today as someone the Cubs are monitoring. 

[gflore34]

Don't know where all of this talk about Cassie being the asking price for Cabrera.  Marlins can ask but, they're not going to get a Cassie level prospect from the Cubs or anyone else for Cabrera.  Cabrera, while good, is an injury risk and he's never pitched more than 99 innings (he's currently at 80) whomever takes him on is taking quit a bit of risk as well.  Cabrera can definitely be had for someone other than Cassie or Wiggins.

[Rcal10]

32 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Don't know where all of this talk about Cassie being the asking price for Cabrera.  Marlins can ask but, they're not going to get a Cassie level prospect from the Cubs or anyone else for Cabrera.  Cabrera, while good, is an injury risk and he's never pitched more than 99 innings (he's currently at 80) whomever takes him on is taking quit a bit of risk as well.  Cabrera can definitely be had for someone other than Cassie or Wiggins.

Cabrera will absolutely cost a Cassie level prospect. He is under team control cheap until 2029. You can’t get a solid player with control who is cheap buffering 3 mid level prospects. 

[gflore34]

5 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Cabrera will absolutely cost a Cassie level prospect. He is under team control cheap until 2029. You can’t get a solid player with control who is cheap buffering 3 mid level prospects. 

The injury risks and the fact he's never pitched more than 99 innings aren't factors?  Injury concerns sure played a role in Luzardo' possible acquisition.  Marlins didn't exactly get a big time package from the Phillies.

Edited July 11, 2025 by gflore34

[Backtobanks]

1 hour ago, gflore34 said:

The injury risks and the fact he's never pitched more than 99 innings aren't factors?  Injury concerns sure played a role in Luzardo' possible acquisition.  Marlins didn't exactly get a big time package from the Phillies.

Matthew Boyd pitched less than 100 innings for 6 years prior to the Cubs signing him.

[Bertz]

1 hour ago, gflore34 said:

The injury risks and the fact he's never pitched more than 99 innings aren't factors?  Injury concerns sure played a role in Luzardo' possible acquisition.  Marlins didn't exactly get a big time package from the Phillies.

You seem pretty confident in this and it's extremely not true

[Derwood]

11 minutes ago, Bertz said:

You seem pretty confident in this and it's extremely not true

In the majors

[gflore34]

24 minutes ago, Bertz said:

You seem pretty confident in this and it's extremely not true

Okay, in the majors and it's 99 and 2/3, so yes, given what's below I am fairly confident and it's extremely true.

 

Edited July 11, 2025 by gflore34

[Bertz]

38 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Okay, in the majors and it's 99 and 2/3, so yes, given what's below I am fairly confident and it's extremely true.

 

You brought up his innings in the context of injury so majors or minors is pretty meaningless.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

this guy here is dead

[CubinNY]

You were saying? 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

34 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

this guy here is dead

[cubfansince77]

3 hours ago, Backtobanks said:

Matthew Boyd pitched less than 100 innings for 6 years prior to the Cubs signing him.

True but he's a lefty and as I just said about Wicks in another thread: LHP's get every last chance on earth to prove themselves. My god I saw former Cub Richard Lovelady with the Mets the other night and thus far he has an ERA north of 11. Same with Rob Zastryzny of the Brewers.....these guys have more than 9 lives 

[cubfansince77]

1 hour ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

 gflore34 posted earlier that Cabrera had never pitched more than 100 innings was spot on...he gone.

Edited July 12, 2025 by cubfansince77

[cubfansince77]

3 hours ago, Bertz said:

You seem pretty confident in this and it's extremely not true

have some Crow bro

[Bertz]

10 minutes ago, cubfansince77 said:

have some Crow bro

For knowing how to count?

[squally1313]

Boyd replaced in the all star game (by the mis kid from Milwaukee, which is dumb, whatever). Hoping that’s just a rest thing. Deep, deep trouble if not. 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

8 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Boyd replaced in the all star game (by the mis kid from Milwaukee, which is dumb, whatever). Hoping that’s just a rest thing. Deep, deep trouble if not. 

It's because he's pitching tomorrow

[cubfansince77]

30 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Boyd replaced in the all star game (by the mis kid from Milwaukee, which is dumb, whatever). Hoping that’s just a rest thing. Deep, deep trouble if not. 

According to this ESPN piece, it's because Boyd is pitching tomorrow and  won't be available for Tuesday's all star game:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45720854/brewers-jacob-misiorowski-nl-all-star-5-starts

 

 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

LOL, damn. I get why they picked Miz but not picking Andrew Abbott is messed up.

*edit: n/m, looks like Abbott replaced Yamamoto.

Edited July 12, 2025 by Tangled Up in Plaid

[Bertz]

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On the flip side, if the Diamondbacks sell, they are unlikely to trade both Gallen and Kelly, according to sources briefed on their plans. The DBacks already are without Corbin Burnes and Jordan Montgomery. If they subtract both Gallen and Kelly, they might not have enough young pitching to get through the season.

Gallen, trending upward in his last two starts, figures to draw more interest than Kelly. But Kelly, 36, has a 3.77 ERA in 159 career starts, all since he returned from Korea at age 30. And he’s only getting better. In his most recent start against the Padres, he threw four of the five hardest pitches of his career.

 

- Ken Rosenthal

 

[KCCub]

Some rumors from Nightengale -

Last two bullets if you can’t see:

• Orioles to make Zach Eflin available; Charlie Morton and Tomoyuki Sugano also expected to be traded barring dramatic winning streak
• Rays listening to offers for Taj Bradley