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15 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

I'm on the fence about trading down from 10.  If they can pick up a future 1st or 2nd, that's one thing, but getting a few Day 2/Day 3 picks in what seems to be a decent draft isn't a particularly exciting proposition.

agreed. This team still needs as much 1st day talent as they can get

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46 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

I'm on the fence about trading down from 10.  If they can pick up a future 1st or 2nd, that's one thing, but getting a few Day 2/Day 3 picks in what seems to be a decent draft isn't a particularly exciting proposition.

I don't expect any 1st rd trades.

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There is some noise that Colston Loveland could be better than Warren. Kiper has Warren going to the Bears at 10 and Loveland to the Colts at 14.

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Once again I'm leading the trade-back train. Feels like the most prudent route to take if it's there. I'll be furious if he trades up. 

 

Hoping for pass rush help or an explosive playmaker on offense. 

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I'm no draft expert and a casual fan of football, and I know the Bears need some high-impact talent, but it seems weird to me that they may take a tight end when it's not a position of need like DL/OL/DE. 

 

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1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

I'm no draft expert and a casual fan of football, and I know the Bears need some high-impact talent, but it seems weird to me that they may take a tight end when it's not a position of need like DL/OL/DE. 

 

TE may not be a position of need now, but Kmet’s contract is one of the more team friendly cuts at year’s end. There will be some contract extensions forthcoming, or at the very least freeing up money for upgrades next year. Not saying he’s as good as gone, but if they take a TE at 10, the writing could be on the wall.

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1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

I'm no draft expert and a casual fan of football, and I know the Bears need some high-impact talent, but it seems weird to me that they may take a tight end when it's not a position of need like DL/OL/DE. 

 

TE might not be viewed as a position of need but impact offensive weapons absolutely are needed. 

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1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

I'm no draft expert and a casual fan of football, and I know the Bears need some high-impact talent, but it seems weird to me that they may take a tight end when it's not a position of need like DL/OL/DE. 

 

The experts say there isn't a lot of difference between picks 10-50. Why not go BPA with the first round pick? If its RB or TE so be it. Then use your two 2nd round picks on OL/DL

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Draft strategy - one thing I'd like the Bears to do is capatilize on deep positions better. 

For example, last year was a "good" center draft. This year is a good "RB & DT" draft.  (There are other positions that could be listed here but stick with me). This year is not a good "Center" draft.

So this year would be a greast year to pick up a DT or RB, even if there is not a true need there. You get value by a round or so over other years. It doesn't seem like they do this yet. Interested to see what they do. 

 

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17 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

The experts say there isn't a lot of difference between picks 10-50. Why not go BPA with the first round pick? If its RB or TE so be it. Then use your two 2nd round picks on OL/DL

That is why I don't expect many, if any, trades in the first round. 

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3 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Once again I'm leading the trade-back train. Feels like the most prudent route to take if it's there. I'll be furious if he trades up. 

 

Hoping for pass rush help or an explosive playmaker on offense. 

Poles has said something to the extent of there not being much difference between the player available at 10 and those later in the first round.  I would think trading up is not a possibility, trading down, most especially if say, Jeanty, Warren and Campbell are gone, is a real possibility.

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1 minute ago, Old Style said:

A TE at #10 better be a perennial Pro Bowl talent otherwise it’s a dumb pick IMO. 

Its a deep draft, its fine if you use both your 2nds on OL/DL

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Adam Schefter is reporting the Browns #2 and Giants#3 are shopping their pick.

 

What would it cost? #10, #39, and 2026 1st?

 

Not saying I would do that but Abdul Carter would be amazing.

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46 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

Adam Schefter is reporting the Browns #2 and Giants#3 are shopping their pick.

 

What would it cost? #10, #39, and 2026 1st?

 

Not saying I would do that but Abdul Carter would be amazing.

According to the Fitzgerald/Spielberger chart #10 & #41 are more points than #3

Probably wouldn't get it done, though. 

Using the Jimmy Johnson chart (most teams are using this or close to this) it would take 10, 39, 41 to get to surplus value for the Giants.  (This site didn't have future picks)

Fun exercise though

 

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1 hour ago, Brian707 said:

Adam Schefter is reporting the Browns #2 and Giants#3 are shopping their pick.

 

What would it cost? #10, #39, and 2026 1st?

 

Not saying I would do that but Abdul Carter would be amazing.

Nobody worth trading up for.

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The players the Bears would possibly trade up for are probably Carter or Graham, right? Don't think Graham is close to the level of trading up for. Carter might be, but there is supposedly a lot of edge talent that could be had around 39/41, so it wouldn't seem to be worth it. 

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3 hours ago, jumbo said:

According to the Fitzgerald/Spielberger chart #10 & #41 are more points than #3

Probably wouldn't get it done, though. 

Using the Jimmy Johnson chart (most teams are using this or close to this) it would take 10, 39, 41 to get to surplus value for the Giants.  (This site didn't have future picks)

Fun exercise though

 

It sounds like most teams are valuing those 2nd and 3rd round picks decently higher than they would most years because the talent level from say, pick 10 to like pick 60/70 is a huge cluster of similarly rated players who would likely be back end of the first round picks in a lot of years.  All that to say the chart may not be a good barometer for this year based on the way the board is falling.

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If mocks are to believed, it's very unlikely Jeanty  is around at #10 and most don't have Warren making it either. 

Nfl.com- Kelvin Banks

CBS- Kelvin Banks 

PFF- Armand Membou

SI- Kelvin Banks

Yahoo- Kelvin Banks 

Walter Football- Tyler Warren 

Tankathon- Tyler Warren 

 

I'd be so underwhelmed by Banks. If none of Jeanty, Warren or Membou are there then just trade back.

 

 

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I have no idea what the Bears are going to do tomorrow. Draft at #10, could be a plethora of possibilities? Trade down, trade up? That's what makes this draft so intriguing. Probably could be said for most teams outside the top 5.

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