Post Winter Meetings Free Agency thread

[Rcal10]

3 minutes ago, s2obed said:

Re: T Scott

Jesse Rogers says it was down to the cubs and dodgers. Cubs never stood a chance basically 😂

Yep, but that really sucks. The number isn’t even something out of line. If the Cubs were serious about him they had to know that would be the number. Had LA blown it out of the water like 4/$88 or something like that I could understand it. But Cubs had to be in at that. Of course if the choice is play for a team who can win 110 games this year or a team in the 80’s I guess guys will choose the better team most times. 

[s2obed]

15 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Yep, but that really sucks. The number isn’t even something out of line. If the Cubs were serious about him they had to know that would be the number. Had LA blown it out of the water like 4/$88 or something like that I could understand it. But Cubs had to be in at that. Of course if the choice is play for a team who can win 110 games this year or a team in the 80’s I guess guys will choose the better team most times. 

Yea, I’d be interested to hear what the Cubs offer was.. but great LA weather and a team that will be in the playoffs year in and out. It’s a no brainer imo.

[Rcal10]

So do the Cubs pivot to Yates? He would probably cost around $14M-$15M. Maybe a second year? But he would be a good back end guy. Or is it Finnegan, Jansen or Robertson? Has to be one of them, right???? Hope it is Yates. 

[chibears55]

1 minute ago, Rcal10 said:

So do the Cubs pivot to Yates? He would probably cost around $14M-$15M. Maybe a second year? But he would be a good back end guy. Or is it Finnegan, Jansen or Robertson? Has to be one of them, right???? Hope it is Yates. 

The top 5 available now is..

Yates, Robertson, Farmer, Estevez, Jansen 

Chafin and Raley could still be in the mix as cheaper options on 1 year deal.

 

 

 

[Tryptamine]

Thoroughly enjoying that the Cubs are not going to flex their financial muscle and they're also not going to get all the extra picks and international cap space the "small" markets do. The worst of both worlds.

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, chibears55 said:

The top 5 available now is..

Yates, Robertson, Farmer, Estevez, Jansen 

Chafin and Raley could still be in the mix as cheaper options on 1 year deal.

 

 

 

I forgot about Estevez. But I think Finnegan is available too. And he did close, unlike Farmer, who did not. Maybe those are the top 6? 

[Rcal10]

40 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Thoroughly enjoying that the Cubs are not going to flex their financial muscle and they're also not going to get all the extra picks and international cap space the "small" markets do. The worst of both worlds.

It is special, isn’t it? 

[Randall Simon]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

Thoroughly enjoying that the Cubs are not going to flex their financial muscle and they're also not going to get all the extra picks and international cap space the "small" markets do. The worst of both worlds.

It's particularly awful right now because the division is there for the taking. 

Our chief rival is down and essentially out, so we're really only competing against a Brewers franchise that will never compete with the big boys financially. 

Be who we are, (the big market team in the division, and use your financial advantage, and we'd be prohibitive favorites in the Central. But instead TR insists on evening the playing field with our competition. It's pathetic. 

[Randall Simon]

If we would have been the big fish, and signed Scott and also grabbed *Bergman, what would our predicted win total have been? 

*Trade Nico now, in season, or let Shaw develop in AAA a little longer and trade Nico in November. 

[CubinNY]

2 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

Thoroughly enjoying that the Cubs are not going to flex their financial muscle and they're also not going to get all the extra picks and international cap space the "small" markets do. The worst of both worlds.

What financial muscle? PTR and his sibs are just trying to break even. 

[Bertz]

5 minutes ago, Randall Simon said:

If we would have been the big fish, and signed Scott and also grabbed *Bergman, what would our predicted win total have been? 

*Trade Nico now, in season, or let Shaw develop in AAA a little longer and trade Nico in November. 

The value of Scott over the other FA closers is approximately 1 win.

Bregman's not really much better than Hoerner, so the improvement for the team would be whatever Hoerner brought back in trade.

[Tryptamine]

This would be such a Cub move. They don't pony up for the elite rp, but they'll give a multi year deal to a guy who was mediocre 3 of the last 4 years rather than just sign Robertson to a 1 year deal. 

[Bertz]

My general reliever pref list from here

1. Kirby Yates - Very good but old

2. David Robertson - Very good but very old

3. Kyle Finnegan - Just okay but the pitch design guys see lots of potential

4. Kenley Jansen - Good but old

5. Carlos Estevez - Good but in line for a multi-year deal

6. Paul Sewald - Bad 2024, pitch models still love him though

[Tryptamine]

2 minutes ago, Bertz said:

My general reliever pref list from here

1. Kirby Yates - Very good but old

2. David Robertson - Very good but very old

3. Kyle Finnegan - Just okay but the pitch design guys see lots of potential

4. Kenley Jansen - Good but old

5. Carlos Estevez - Good but in line for a multi-year deal

6. Paul Sewald - Bad 2024, pitch models still love him though

Flip Yates and Robertson and I think that's more or less where I am and even the Yates/Robertson thing I could be talked out of it.

[Dmac]

I think they sign Finnigan.  That is a Cub signing.  He will be cheaper than some of the other options. 

[Andy]

4 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

Thoroughly enjoying that the Cubs are not going to flex their financial muscle and they're also not going to get all the extra picks and international cap space the "small" markets do. The worst of both worlds.

It really is hilarious. Spending is literally the only advantage available to the Cubs and they have just chosen to opt out of it

[s2obed]

https://x.com/jonmorosi/status/1881147959053869109

[chibears55]

Lol

 

Edited January 20, 2025 by chibears55

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, chibears55 said:

Cubs Interested In Carlos Estevez, Were Runners-Up For Tanner Scott

January 19th, 2025 at 7:15pm CST • By Mark Polishuk

 

Really? Are you horsefeathers  with us now, or do you really think this needs to be posted at this time? 

[Stratos]

delete

Edited January 20, 2025 by Stratos

[Dfan25]

With Yates signing with the Dodgers , my preference now is Robertson . With that said , Dodgers will probably sign him as well 

[Jason Ross]

Sign me up for Finnegan. With some tweaks, there's a guy there. 

[NorthsideAvenger]

MLB will be uninteresting this year. 

Edited January 21, 2025 by NorthsideAvenger

[17 Seconds]

 

5 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

Sign me up for Finnegan. With some tweaks, there's a guy there. 

hopefully nobody wants him and he falls into jed's price range in late february

[We Got The Whole 9]

How do you not pivot right to Yates after losing Scott. Is our interest level not as high becuase he's RH?