Bears Week 1 vs Titans: Sunday 9/8 noon on Fox

[WrigleyField 22]

4 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I honestly don't think I care about the -19 sack. You don't draft Caleb Williams to ask him to throw the ball away ever time a defensive tackle is closing on him.

He panicked a bit and froze instead of taking a decisive step like he normally would.  But he's perfectly capable of beating that pressure.

Situationally that isn't where I want CW heroics.  That could easily be a FG range drive and it was a screen blown up early.  You have the easy lost play by throwing it at RBs feet quickly and move on to 2nd and 10 at Titans 25.

Edited September 9, 2024 by WrigleyField 22

[UMFan83]

Ugh losing Rome would suck especially if Keenan is declining (not saying he definitely is, but also hasnt really proven he isnt yet).  The WR options thin out after Tyler Scott but of course your WR5 and 6 aren't going to be that great on any team.

[UMFan83]

Well it looks like we'll get this gory breakdown for free:

 

 

[wekse]

Titans fans are salty af all around the city today, it's been wonderful.

Edited September 9, 2024 by wekse

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

1 hour ago, BigbadB said:

That quote I saw was that he was blocking on a Velus Jones screen play, and Jones and his defender both rolled up from behind Rome.

This is the play some people are referring to.  6:13 in the video if the timestamp doesn't work.  

[Hairyducked Idiot]

1 hour ago, UMFan83 said:

Well it looks like we'll get this gory breakdown for free:

 

I think I'm gonna pass on this one. That's too much misery porn even for me

[BigSlick]

There’s not a lot I need “broken down” for me in Caleb’s game. He had about 5-6 just inaccurate, bad passes, he had a few overthrows, he had a couple drops, and he had a few plays where he didn’t handle the pressure well. It was all obvious for someone with a middling understanding of football.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

30 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

There’s not a lot I need “broken down” for me in Caleb’s game. He had about 5-6 just inaccurate, bad passes, he had a few overthrows, he had a couple drops, and he had a few plays where he didn’t handle the pressure well. It was all obvious for someone with a middling understanding of football.

What was the second drop besides the Allen end zone drop?

[WrigleyField 22]

2 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

Well it looks like we'll get this gory breakdown for free:

 

 

Only 40 minutes?  That's like 3 plays tops by the top you fast forward through the groaning and pot shots at Kmet and Moore.

 

Tim Jenkins released a 25 minute one as well.

 

 

Edited September 9, 2024 by WrigleyField 22

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

2 hours ago, PosterToBeNamedLater said:

This is the play some people are referring to.  6:13 in the video if the timestamp doesn't work.  

Also, holy crap, did Shelton get destroyed on the play at 2:47.  I somehow missed that while watching the game.  

[Irrelevant Dude]

4 hours ago, BigbadB said:

That quote I saw was that he was blocking on a Velus Jones screen play, and Jones and his defender both rolled up from behind Rome.

Of course Velus would be involved.  I don't care how fast or physically gifted that guy is, if he is allowed to see meaningful action going forward, his mistakes are going to cost the team a game (or games).

[Wilson A2000]

Why was Kmet only the field for less than 50% of the snaps? 

[UMFan83]

32 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Why was Kmet only the field for less than 50% of the snaps? 

The Bears seem to be favoring Everett. Started in the preseason. Very strange since they just gave him an extension 

[UMFan83]

I guess best case scenario but sucks that Caleb is missing a weapon after struggling in week 1

 

[Old Style]

 

[gflore34]

1 hour ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Of course Velus would be involved.  I don't care how fast or physically gifted that guy is, if he is allowed to see meaningful action going forward, his mistakes are going to cost the team a game (or games).

What is it with this guy?  Even on plays where he’s not directly involved something bad happens.  

Edited September 10, 2024 by gflore34

[Tryptamine]

34 minutes ago, Old Style said:

 

Caleb gets this TD and that Allen drop and we're talking completely different about his performance. 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

2 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Caleb gets this TD and that Allen drop and we're talking completely different about his performance. 

We'd certainly be talking about how the NFL let them score two different touchdowns on consecutive plays without letting the other team get a possession in between.

Edited September 10, 2024 by Hairyducked Idiot

[UMFan83]

Just now, Hairyducked Idiot said:

We'd certainly be talking about how the NFL let them score two different touchdowns on consecutive plays without letting the other team get a posession in between.

thats what a generational QB does

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I did end up watching the film breakdowns, and it was pretty much what everyone already agreed:  Williams looked overexcited and sailed throws, and there were major breakdowns by others that cost him chances to make big plays.  Fixing either would have made his stat line palatable.

A couple of the balls that I had as bad throws were actually miscommunications with the WR (one of which was *definitely* Odunze's fault).

His reads were good enough.  He looked like he was making accurate pre-snap reads and identifying conflict defenders correctly in real time.  

He could speed up just a tiny bit in the pocket, there were some plays where he hitched a bit when he could have immediately hit a throw, but that's probably always going to be part of his game.

[Tryptamine]

25 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

We'd certainly be talking about how the NFL let them score two different touchdowns on consecutive plays without letting the other team get a possession in between.

My point being, if either of those end up being caught. The story today amongst the media is that he was just so so or even maybe ok for a guying making his first start. He certainly wasn't good, but damn is there a lot of doom in gloom our there right now.

[raw]

1 hour ago, Old Style said:

 

Teven Jenkins trips Shelton on this play, right as the LB pops him backwards

[WrigleyField 22]

49 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

  

He could speed up just a tiny bit in the pocket, there were some plays where he hitched a bit when he could have immediately hit a throw, but that's probably always going to be part of his game.

There was at least one play where Jenkins critiques him for going to quick and after 2.5 years of Fields I was like "oh yea that can be a thing"

[raw]

The Jenkins breakdown is pretty good. He mentions there are plays that would change how we view Caleb's game.

Hit one of the deep passes- 1st one to Keenan, he stepped up in the pocket which made it so he wasn't able to step into the throw. 2nd one, I didn't like that it was to Carter, who Caleb probably hasn't thrown to that much as he was mostly working with the 2nd and 3rd teams in camp. Carter also isn't a real WR, he's a return man that can run routes. He's smaller, better at everything, Velus.

Tipped passes.- There was one where Keenan was wide open on a corner route, Caleb saw it, threw it with enough anticipation, but Blasingame blew the block. There was the one where the LB runs over Shelton (and Jenkins trips him), Keenan was wide open for a TD.

Keenan drop. If this TD had happened, saves Caleb from that 1 incompletion and then the 2nd and 3rd down completions (including the tipped one to Keenan) don't happen either. 15-27, 99 yards, 1 TD, takes his passer rating up 25-30 points.

I'm going to fully blame Caleb for being off, but it also looked like a QB with not enough practice with his weapons. Non-deep overthrows were just slightly over. A couple behind receivers. Some catches that guys didn't make. It also felt like he was throwing the ball too hard at times. Just overly amped up, since he doesn't get "nervous", so he says.

[Derwood]

3 hours ago, PosterToBeNamedLater said:

Also, holy crap, did Shelton get destroyed on the play at 2:47.  I somehow missed that while watching the game.  

I mentioned it during the game. Happened at least twice (where he was knocked completely onto his ass)