College Football Offseason 2023

[Tim]

Might as well go and break up the ACC while we're at it. Get the best schools from the conference before the SEC does.

[UMFan83]

8 minutes ago, Tim said:

Might as well go and break up the ACC while we're at it. Get the best schools from the conference before the SEC does.

Florida State is all but begging a conference to come save them. 

Basically we're going to have 3 power conferences that all have divisions that are subconferences, and its going to be ridiculous.  I'm not at all a CFB traditionalist but this all seems rather ridiculous.

[Old Style]

Somewhere Bill Walton is weeping. 
 

(While ridiculously high.)

[Andy]

I really don't have much to say (well, I do, but nothing anyone here wants to read) except that this all horsefeathers sucks.

My school and my team will keep me engaged but the sport as a whole is kind of a hard sell right now.

[CubinNY]

10 minutes ago, Andy said:

I really don't have much to say (well, I do, but nothing anyone here wants to read) except that this all horsefeathers sucks.

My school and my team will keep me engaged but the sport as a whole is kind of a hard sell right now.

Is it the NIL stuff or the conference realignment stuff? Or is that you think ND might be forced into a conference? or All of it or none of it. I'd really like to read what you think. 

[Andy]

58 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Is it the NIL stuff or the conference realignment stuff? Or is that you think ND might be forced into a conference? or All of it or none of it. I'd really like to read what you think. 

Mostly it would be teeing off on the B1G for constantly trying to pretend they care about anything but money while literally spending the past 3 decades straight proving otherwise.

I don't think ND will literally be forced into a conference. The CFP is too big now, and any attempt to codify a way to exclude independents into it at this point would be a hilariously obvious violation of antitrust law. Oddly enough, they might find an ally in the SEC, who would prefer the only remaining big name on the board not go to the other big moneymaking conference and would likely help devise a way to avoid that if possible.

But they might just join one anyway since the whole idea of being in a conference has long since stopped being relevant. (The only connective tissue 8 of the soon-to-be 18 B1G schools are going to have is that they like money and the B1G offered it.) The financial realities of going it alone are just going to be too much to overcome at some point.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Andy

[Derwood]

12 minutes ago, Andy said:

Mostly it would be teeing off on the B1G for constantly trying to pretend they care about anything but money while literally spending the past 3 decades straight proving otherwise.

I don't think ND will literally be forced into a conference. The CFP is too big now, and any attempt to codify a way to exclude independents into it at this point would be a hilariously obvious violation of antitrust law. Oddly enough, they might find an ally in the SEC, who would prefer the only remaining big name on the board not go to the other big moneymaking conference and would likely help devise a way to avoid that if possible.

But they might just join one anyway since the whole idea of being in a conference has long since stopped being relevant. (The only connective tissue 8 of the soon-to-be 18 B1G schools are going to have is that they like money and the B1G offered it.) The financial realities of going it alone are just going to be too much to overcome at some point.

Notre Dame also likes money...

[Sosa21MVP]

At this rate, you could have the Big Ten conference championship game be the new Rose Bowl lol. 

[Derwood]

Wrong thread (lol)

Edited August 4, 2023 by Derwood

[CubinNY]

Realignment does not make geographical sense at all. They probably just need to blow up the NCAA for football and figure out something better. 

[Andy]

19 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Notre Dame also likes money...

They've never destroyed entire conferences in pursuit of it. (The beauty of not being in one is that you can be self-interested without knifing your supposed colleagues in the back.) The only real difference at this point between the B1G and the supposedly evil, football-uber-alles SEC is that the SEC is mostly honest about what it is.

[Old Style]

55 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Bellinger is really good at those perfectly placed dribblers through the infield

Derwood is as lost as the PAC12 commish.

[jersey cubs fan]

2 hours ago, Andy said:

They've never destroyed entire conferences in pursuit of it. (The beauty of not being in one is that you can be self-interested without knifing your supposed colleagues in the back.) The only real difference at this point between the B1G and the supposedly evil, football-uber-alles SEC is that the SEC is mostly honest about what it is.

Hahaha, notre dame is the original “doing it for the money” entity in college football. 

[Andy]

12 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Hahaha, notre dame is the original “doing it for the money” entity in college football. 

I literally never said it wasn't. They also didn't just destroy the Pac-12 because they felt like it, barely two years after entering a supposed 'Alliance' of like-minded universities countering perceived SEC aggression that was really just Kevin Warren's successful effort to scout the next cash cows he was going to steal from other leagues.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Andy

[bukie]

Arizona, Arizona State and utah to the Big 12, leaving Stanford, Cal, Wazzu and Oregon State looking for friends.

[UMFan83]

1 hour ago, bukie said:

Arizona, Arizona State and utah to the Big 12, leaving Stanford, Cal, Wazzu and Oregon State looking for friends.

They really should just merge with the Mountain West. I don’t know how that looks for other sports though or academics. Stanford is like the most successful college athletic program ever. I know football brings in like 90% of all athletic revenue and men’s basketball another 9.5% and they aren’t historically great there and that’s all that matters, but they are typically good at most other sports. 

[OleMissCub]

2 hours ago, bukie said:

Arizona, Arizona State and utah to the Big 12

[Soul]

I’m out here in Eugene as luck would have it.

Some people are having difficulty believing this is true.

[champaignchris]

On 8/4/2023 at 2:31 PM, Andy said:

They've never destroyed entire conferences in pursuit of it. 

Really?  Notre Dame taking their non-football sports to the ACC was the integral event in the disintegration of the original Big East. 
 

Notre Dame could put a stop to the eventual disintegration of the ACC and slow down the conference shuffle to a standstill tomorrow. All they’d have to do is announce they’re joining the ACC for football. 

[Outshined_One]

[Andy]

1 hour ago, champaignchris said:

Really?  Notre Dame taking their non-football sports to the ACC was the integral event in the disintegration of the original Big East. 
 

Notre Dame could put a stop to the eventual disintegration of the ACC and slow down the conference shuffle to a standstill tomorrow. All they’d have to do is announce they’re joining the ACC for football. 

Syracuse and Pittsburgh had announced they were out of the Big East a whole-ass year prior to ND's ACC move. That league was dead. ND would've happily parked their non-football sports there forever had the league remained viable, but it was not. (Also, football is all that matters, as we all know, so ND leaving the Big East in not-football had almost no effect on that league.)

As for your second paragraph, this canard has been tossed around for several realignment cycles now, and it's just wrong. First, the idea that it's somehow Notre Dame's responsibility to stop the B1G from destroying other conferences or other schools from repeatedly shivving each other is so incredibly funny and rich I don't even know how to respond. Second, just for one of many possible examples, literally nothing about the demise of the Pac-12 would've been affected or stopped in any way by ND being in the ACC for football.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Andy

[Andy]

Since this thread got bumped again anyway:

The Atlantic Coast Conference adding two schools from the literal Pacific coast is the absurd ending this sport deserves. I don't know why the ACC would possibly benefit from this - under normal circumstances I wouldn't get why Cal or Stanford would ever consider it either, but they might just not have another option.

[UMFan83]

59 minutes ago, Andy said:

Since this thread got bumped again anyway:

The Atlantic Coast Conference adding two schools from the literal Pacific coast is the absurd ending this sport deserves. I don't know why the ACC would possibly benefit from this - under normal circumstances I wouldn't get why Cal or Stanford would ever consider it either, but they might just not have another option.

That's sad and hilarious at the same time.  As much as I was strangely ok with having USC and UCLA join the Big Ten, I now wish we could just go back to things the way they were before. 

[Tryptamine]

29 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

That's sad and hilarious at the same time.  As much as I was strangely ok with having USC and UCLA join the Big Ten, I now wish we could just go back to things the way they were before. 

It's been an incredibly short time and I'm already sick of hearing about how USC is going to demolish the Big10, etc etc.

[Nolansomebody]

 

Not particularly good for Iowa State almost 3 weeks before the season