6/30 Cubs (Jake Arrieta's ghost) @ Brewers (someone named Ashby)

[Bertz]

[itisallpartoftheplan]

1st and 2nd 0 outs for the Cubs. 4 of the next 5 pitches were out of the zone. Inning over.

[UMFan83]

The Brewers have scored 31 runs so far in the series. Not including today, the Cubs have scored 31 runs in their last 13 games combined.

 

The Brewers have 3 innings of 5+ runs scored in this series. In the Cubs previous 16 games, they have scored 5 or more runs in the entire game just once.

[Andy]

This will be remembered as the game that ended the era.

In sports you constantly have eras ending without people really realizing it until they look back later with the benefit of hindsight and notice that this, here, is where it ended.

 

This series is the complete opposite of that. This was the end and just about everyone knows it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

This will be remembered as the game that ended the era.

In sports you constantly have eras ending without people really realizing it until they look back later with the benefit of hindsight and notice that this, here, is where it ended.

 

This series is the complete opposite of that. This was the end and just about everyone knows it.

 

 

eh,,trading Darvish was that moment. this whole season leading up to this series was just the gas being let out of the bloated whale

[UMFan83]

I think i said this last night but the thing that really pisses me off is I came into the season with very low expectations, was not terribly mad when the team started slow, when they started winning I enjoyed it for what it was, a mediocre team going on a hot streak. I think around that point in the Cardinals series where the Cubs came back from down 5-1 to win by a couple of runs I thought 'damn I guess this team is somehow pretty decent'. I let my guard down and now they are playing like the team I expected before the season but its pissing me off a lot more because my expectations rose. Now they are probably going to be just good enough to not completely sell all their assets so it will end up being a worse case scenario I guess.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I think i said this last night but the thing that really pisses me off is I came into the season with very low expectations, was not terribly mad when the team started slow, when they started winning I enjoyed it for what it was, a mediocre team going on a hot streak. I think around that point in the Cardinals series where the Cubs came back from down 5-1 to win by a couple of runs I thought 'damn I guess this team is somehow pretty decent'. I let my guard down and now they are playing like the team I expected before the season but its pissing me off a lot more because my expectations rose. Now they are probably going to be just good enough to not completely sell all their assets so it will end up being a worse case scenario I guess.

This why I always advocate expecting the worst.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Not sure I'm informed enough to have an opinion, but Jesus, how embarrassing.

 

A few observations

 

1. Everyone has to play the same teams for the most part, but this year specifically the sequence of the June/early July sked for the Brewers and Cubs was so pivotal because of the Cubs' big potential to be sellers. The Brewers playing the Pirates, D-Backs, Rockies....checks.....D-Backs and Rockies again and then the Pirates again after the Cubs while the Cubs played all good teams for the most part......did not break well. Props to the Brewers for winning a good number of those games, but hot damn, that really was nice for them. I'd have liked the Cubs to have that sked and build a six-game lead and try to hold on rather than play an easier sked now but be sort of buried trying to play catch up considering they just aren't that good and now aren't going to be looking to add.

 

2. Kris Bryant has a fragile body. Too bad. He's awesome when he's not dinged up but his body just doesn't allow him to be the 100 percent he seems to need to be to perform at a high level. Wish him the best of luck with where ever he ends up at the deadline provided it's not the Brewers. I don't care much anymore but would still pick the Brewers not winning it all if I had my choice. KB had a great Cubs career, but it just ended up not being as great as it seemed it would be after 2016. But, I suppose, that's the story of this entire era. Still a heck of an era. Would take it again.

[Sosa21MVP]

Cobs r suk

[BigSlick]

??? they lost this game? i didn't even check the game again after I saw they scored 7 in the first inning.

 

What???

 

I'm not even mad. I'm just completely baffled. Sell everyone off that you can. Torpedo the team. Relegate them to the minors if possible.

[Omar]

muh cubs

[17 Seconds]

Fitting that this era of cubs baseball is ended by the brewers

[Omar]

LOL

 

[17 Seconds]

Losing this game would definitely be the end of the season.

 

Shall I compile a list of teams that have overcome 6 game deficits with half the season to go?

 

I mean I'm not saying the Cubs are a good team primed to crawl back to the division lead, but 6 games over 81 games with the easiest remaining schedule in baseball is not as daunting as you seem to be implying it is.

 

it's the end because it likely means we're going to be selling

[UMFan83]

I just checked after scanning this thread and there’s actually 81 more games. What’s this big outburst bring the Brewers’ offense to, 22nd by wRC+ and wOBA?

 

Right. I’m not ready to give up the season yet. This is a team that recently lost 5 straight including 2 to the Rockies. That said the margin for error is much more narrow now

[Sammy Sofa]

Look, we all know horsefeathering baseball is a baseball, but the people pining for the Cubs to squeak-fart their way into the WC or win this division are on horsefeathering crack. Thinking this horsefeathering team has any kind of realistic shot of being the "hot at the right time" type of playoff team is beyond absurd.

[BigSlick]

I mean, the 83 win Cardinals won the World Series, so anything's possible.

 

I just don't think this team is even capable of winning 83 games.

[Soul]

My GOD this team is trash.

[UMFan83]

Shockingly losing a game after scoring 7 runs in the first is more common than I thought but still pretty damn rare.

 

Teams that score 7+ runs in the first inning of a game are 626-26-1 all time (or at least in all games where they have line scores which is mostly everything after 1930). Just last year the Phillies lost after scoring 7:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR202008202.shtml

 

Also in my search I found that the most runs a team has ever scored in the first inning and lost is 10 runs, and it happened twice

[soccer10k]

Cubs are only the second team to score 7 runs in the 1st inning and lose by at least 7, joining the 1976 Giants.

 

Only three teams in the last 40 years led by 7 in a game and lost by more than the 8 runs the Cubs lost by today.

 

Cubs also had a franchise worst .1875 BA for a single month. Even their awful April they hit .216.

[soccer10k]

Only other team to blow a 7 run lead this year (teams were 234-1 before today) is the DBacks. I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but the DBacks really, really suck this year.

[squally1313]

Look, we all know horsefeathering baseball is a baseball, but the people pining for the Cubs to squeak-fart their way into the WC or win this division are on horsefeathering crack. Thinking this horsefeathering team has any kind of realistic shot of being the "hot at the right time" type of playoff team is beyond absurd.

But what's the alternative? You really think mystery injury/OPSing like .300 in the last month KB is going to bring back some future difference maker for a couple months of games? What contender is looking for a shortstop hitting league average and on pace for a career high in errors? These are unique players in that they have a track record of high performance, enough to garner a somewhat substantial contract (and a comp pick) who don't have a whole lot of trade value when getting acquired just for the next 3 months. You do a fire sale in the next month, you forfeit whatever chance you have left this year, and you set the table for Ricketts to roll out some big rebuild until the 15 year olds from the Darvish trade hit puberty. That's....better than taking a shot, even a long shot, at backing into a coin flip playoff? If these guys all actually suck, we're going to suck next year regardless. Tossing away the rest of this season for a few prospects that can maybe crack our top 20 is even dumber.

[Sammy Sofa]

Look, we all know horsefeathering baseball is a baseball, but the people pining for the Cubs to squeak-fart their way into the WC or win this division are on horsefeathering crack. Thinking this horsefeathering team has any kind of realistic shot of being the "hot at the right time" type of playoff team is beyond absurd.

But what's the alternative? You really think mystery injury/OPSing like .300 in the last month KB is going to bring back some future difference maker for a couple months of games? What contender is looking for a shortstop hitting league average and on pace for a career high in errors? These are unique players in that they have a track record of high performance, enough to garner a somewhat substantial contract (and a comp pick) who don't have a whole lot of trade value when getting acquired just for the next 3 months. You do a fire sale in the next month, you forfeit whatever chance you have left this year, and you set the table for Ricketts to roll out some big rebuild until the 15 year olds from the Darvish trade hit puberty. That's....better than taking a shot, even a long shot, at backing into a coin flip playoff? If these guys all actually suck, we're going to suck next year regardless. Tossing away the rest of this season for a few prospects that can maybe crack our top 20 is even dumber.

 

Look, I'm Mr. Doom Boner: I think the Cubs have thoroughly fucked themselves to the point that there's no real good option for them right now.

[Outshined_One]

Look, I'm Mr. Doom Boner: I think the Cubs have thoroughly horsefeathers themselves to the point that there's no real good option for them right now.

 

This is the correct take.

 

The frustrating thing about this offseason is how badly nearly every move they made has seemingly backfired on them. I got why they replaced Schwarber with Joc, and I understood in a vacuum why they traded Darvish and Caratini away the way they did, but holy cats does that looks absolutely awful in hindsight. Maybe they all would have been injured and unproductive if they were still with the Cubs, but having Schwarber's production in the OF with Darvish in the rotation and Caratini as backup C probably would have seen this team looking a hell of a lot better than what it is now.

 

On top of that, I'm having a really difficult time seeing how this team can be competitive in 2022 at the rate things are going. Ugh.

[UMFan83]

Look, we all know horsefeathering baseball is a baseball, but the people pining for the Cubs to squeak-fart their way into the WC or win this division are on horsefeathering crack. Thinking this horsefeathering team has any kind of realistic shot of being the "hot at the right time" type of playoff team is beyond absurd.

But what's the alternative? You really think mystery injury/OPSing like .300 in the last month KB is going to bring back some future difference maker for a couple months of games? What contender is looking for a shortstop hitting league average and on pace for a career high in errors? These are unique players in that they have a track record of high performance, enough to garner a somewhat substantial contract (and a comp pick) who don't have a whole lot of trade value when getting acquired just for the next 3 months. You do a fire sale in the next month, you forfeit whatever chance you have left this year, and you set the table for Ricketts to roll out some big rebuild until the 15 year olds from the Darvish trade hit puberty. That's....better than taking a shot, even a long shot, at backing into a coin flip playoff? If these guys all actually suck, we're going to suck next year regardless. Tossing away the rest of this season for a few prospects that can maybe crack our top 20 is even dumber.

 

Look, I'm Mr. Doom Boner: I think the Cubs have thoroughly horsefeathers themselves to the point that there's no real good option for them right now.

 

It’s honestly impressive how thoroughly the Cubs have fucked themselves. On one hand it’s super depressing but on the other hand, bravo