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Weird, I got out in the yard with the dogs and some beers and didn’t think about baseball once. It was a good day.

 

Yeah, I guess I can thank the Ricketts for prepping me to be constantly forgetting that baseball should be a thing right now.

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Honestly, it's a pretty reasonable idea. I'm hoping that by June, medium-sized gatherings (<50) will be considered common enough that we won't even need the players to fully sequester or sit apart in the dugout or whatever.

 

But damn are they gonna have the mother of all PR disasters/lawsuits if a mini-outbreak sneaks into a team.

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Honestly, it's a pretty reasonable idea. I'm hoping that by June, medium-sized gatherings (<50) will be considered common enough that we won't even need the players to fully sequester or sit apart in the dugout or whatever.

 

But damn are they gonna have the mother of all PR disasters/lawsuits if a mini-outbreak sneaks into a team.

Yup, this seems semi reasonable. Sounds like the guys will basically be in a bio-dome for the season as of now (like you said maybe by June or sometime after when there’s a better idea/handle on it things are relaxed). Having widespread testing with it not taking away from the public and also the test to see if anyone has already had it will seem to be the key if this can happen or not, plus the virus not going crazy in Arizona. May is also the last month players are guaranteed paychecks so that will play a factor in deciding to move forward I’d assume from the MLBPA side.

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This is dumb and isn't happening.

 

There's too much finger licking in baseball for this to have any chance of working.

 

We're three weeks into a decent sized portion of the population taking this thing seriously, and one week into the dimmer portion of the population realizing what is happening. We blew a three month lead.

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As starved as I am for baseball or any sports, I'm with Goony. That's a stupid idea.

 

I'm not sure how many players would sign up for 4.5-plus months away from their family, to say nothing of the more science-based reasons why that wouldn't work.

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As starved as I am for baseball or any sports, I'm with Goony. That's a stupid idea.

 

I'm not sure how many players would sign up for 4.5-plus months away from their family, to say nothing of the more science-based reasons why that wouldn't work.

 

To add on to the Doolittle love, here's his wife summing it up pretty well. If I squint and try to adopt a player's mindset on losing that kind of money...there's a sliver I can understand. This proposal goes far beyond that group of people though.

 

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As starved as I am for baseball or any sports, I'm with Goony. That's a stupid idea.

 

I'm not sure how many players would sign up for 4.5-plus months away from their family, to say nothing of the more science-based reasons why that wouldn't work.

 

To add on to the Doolittle love, here's his wife summing it up pretty well. If I squint and try to adopt a player's mindset on losing that kind of money...there's a sliver I can understand. This proposal goes far beyond that group of people though.

 

 

aren't the players getting paid for 2020 (and getting service time)?

 

i thought i saw that they had settled that a couple weeks back.

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Yeah, I'm pretty confident this was leaked to Passan by Scott Boras. He is a fan of this.

 

Not only is it probably going to be too dangerous, not only will it be difficult to coordinate this all, but if Covid doesn't make some of the players sick, playing in 110-degrees every day for two or three months probably will.

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As starved as I am for baseball or any sports, I'm with Goony. That's a stupid idea.

 

I'm not sure how many players would sign up for 4.5-plus months away from their family, to say nothing of the more science-based reasons why that wouldn't work.

 

To add on to the Doolittle love, here's his wife summing it up pretty well. If I squint and try to adopt a player's mindset on losing that kind of money...there's a sliver I can understand. This proposal goes far beyond that group of people though.

 

 

aren't the players getting paid for 2020 (and getting service time)?

 

i thought i saw that they had settled that a couple weeks back.

The players are getting 4% of their salaries (and being credited a year of service time) if there is no season. If there is a season, I believe they pay back that 4%, because that was considered an advance at the time.

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To add on to the Doolittle love, here's his wife summing it up pretty well. If I squint and try to adopt a player's mindset on losing that kind of money...there's a sliver I can understand. This proposal goes far beyond that group of people though.

 

 

aren't the players getting paid for 2020 (and getting service time)?

 

i thought i saw that they had settled that a couple weeks back.

The players are getting 4% of their salaries (and being credited a year of service time) if there is no season. If there is a season, I believe they pay back that 4%, because that was considered an advance at the time.

 

gotcha. that makes sense.

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May is almost certainly too aggressive, if for no other reason than you need to have a reduced ramp up spring training, but I don't think it's that unreasonable an idea. You eliminate the risk of travel, and while yes there are non-players that would need to work to support this, we're almost as close to June as we are to Valentine's Day, and by that point on the current trajectory it doesn't appear to be a hyper-dangerous proposition. Certainly possible that circumstances change, but they need to start planning now for whatever the season could look like.
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May is almost certainly too aggressive, if for no other reason than you need to have a reduced ramp up spring training, but I don't think it's that unreasonable an idea. You eliminate the risk of travel, and while yes there are non-players that would need to work to support this, we're almost as close to June as we are to Valentine's Day, and by that point on the current trajectory it doesn't appear to be a hyper-dangerous proposition. Certainly possible that circumstances change, but they need to start planning now for whatever the season could look like.

 

My biggest concern is that the Spring Training parks will not be viable places to play by June when the temps start to average over 100 degrees daily, and can go up to 115. I'm guessing the plan is to play until the virus infections are low enough to potentially play in major league parks (still without fans) and loosen some of the isolation restrictions on the players. But what if that doesn't happen as quickly as they anticipated? Is their fallback plan to move every game to Chase Field, or are they going to have to shut down again? We're still at a stage where its difficult to predict with certainty how things will look in 2+ months.

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To add on to the Doolittle love, here's his wife summing it up pretty well. If I squint and try to adopt a player's mindset on losing that kind of money...there's a sliver I can understand. This proposal goes far beyond that group of people though.

 

 

aren't the players getting paid for 2020 (and getting service time)?

 

i thought i saw that they had settled that a couple weeks back.

The players are getting 4% of their salaries (and being credited a year of service time) if there is no season. If there is a season, I believe they pay back that 4%, because that was considered an advance at the time.

I thought they are just getting paid through May as if it’s business as usual (idk what % of salary that is) but after that it’s entirely up in the air and they aren’t guaranteed anything if there’s no season?

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That would be....very advantageous for the Cubs. Just to use ZiPS as a neutral point of comparison, they go from being the 6th best team in the NL and 3 of those teams being 5+ wins better, to 5th in the Cactus League and 1 team being 4+ wins better.
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Even if true, I'm sure this won't be confirmed for weeks. It does sound in line with the reporting from Passan and Rosenthal the past week or so though.

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Even if true, I'm sure this won't be confirmed for weeks. It does sound in line with the reporting from Passan and Rosenthal the past week or so though.

 

They probably won’t announce anything until they see how the KBO does after a couple of weeks. But certainly sounds promising.

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