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You're supposed to be the best defense in the league and you let the Eagles march down the field to score the game winning TD with less than a minute left on the clock. Let them get 46 yards on the first 5 plays of that drive.

 

10 men on the field for the TD to Goedert too.

 

Just a disappointing performance really on all phases of the game. A true team loss: defense, special teams, offense, and coaching.

 

 

That last drive was infuriating. 3 man pass rushes.

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I've always maintained that there should be a rule against calling time outs at the very last second to ice the kicker. Like in the instance where it happened last night, if the ball is snapped and kicked, you waited too long. The kicker could just as easily miss the first one and make the second one, so this isn't me being a homer. It's just a stupid practice to call it so late that the play actually happens and then you have to line up and do it all over again. If you want to ice the kicker, call the time out well before the play happens.

 

That might seem weird, but I find it weird that kickers are subjected to two attempts because the defense has a time out at their disposal. You can still ice the kicker by calling time out at about the time the holder is about to get into position. At the point he hasn't raised his hands to accept the hike, you can call your time out up to that point. If you wait until after that, the kick either counts if it goes in, or the offense gets a 5 yard bonus for the penalty to re-kick.

 

To me the time out before a kick is just one of the dumbest rituals that they allow defenses to get away with.

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If you don’t want your kicker iced, you can always snap it before the defense expects you to

 

You could, but I'm guessing timing is pretty important on field goals. Trying to dupe the defense by snapping early seems like a good way to decrease your chances of making the field goal.

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If you don’t want your kicker iced, you can always snap it before the defense expects you to

 

You could, but I'm guessing timing is pretty important on field goals. Trying to dupe the defense by snapping early seems like a good way to decrease your chances of making the field goal.

 

 

With someone as terrible as Parkey what difference does it make?

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Watching replays on the 4th down TD to Tate. It kills me that if McManis had just slightly better positioning, he could have easily reached out and batted the pass away before it got to Tate. Another one that hurts is the Bears 2 point attempt. It actually looks like Gabriel had a window to make it in, but it closes in a hurry and I'm not sure exactly what happened but it looked like if he lowered his head and veered slightly to the right he could have crossed the goal line. So many what if's in this one. Edited by UMFan83
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If you don’t want your kicker iced, you can always snap it before the defense expects you to

 

You could, but I'm guessing timing is pretty important on field goals. Trying to dupe the defense by snapping early seems like a good way to decrease your chances of making the field goal.

 

 

With someone as terrible as Parkey what difference does it make?

 

exactly

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If you don’t want your kicker iced, you can always snap it before the defense expects you to

 

Yeah but why potentially throw the offense off its rhythm to avoid a strategy that statistically has if anything a positive effect on a teams chances of making a FG?

 

The icing thing doesn't bother me one bit because it simply does not have any sort of statistical proof that it works. Maybe Parkey whose confidence was probably already shaky due to his failures this year is more likely to get in his own head when iced than someone like Robbie Gould, but its impossible to know for sure.

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Yea I mean this is the kind of stat that makes this loss so crushing. If you would've told me Sunday morning that Mitch would throw for 300 yards and 0 INTs, and that the Bears would pick off Foles twice and outgain the Eagles in total yards, I would've been pretty confident in a Bears win.

 

The Bears' injuries were really critical (unfortunately); far more than I think the non-Bears national media is acknowledging. The Eagles picked on McManis all afternoon, I heard Deon Bush's name way too many times for my liking, and not having Trey Burton really seemed to push the Bears' passing offense entirely to the sidelines. Like, I love how tall Shaheen is and how dangerous he can be in the redzone and all that, but...man, that just felt like a huge downgrade yesterday.

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My god. Every little detail that dribbles out on this loss just makes me feel worse.

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Yea I mean this is the kind of stat that makes this loss so crushing. If you would've told me Sunday morning that Mitch would throw for 300 yards and 0 INTs, and that the Bears would pick off Foles twice and outgain the Eagles in total yards, I would've been pretty confident in a Bears win.

 

The Bears' injuries were really critical (unfortunately); far more than I think the non-Bears national media is acknowledging. The Eagles picked on McManis all afternoon, I heard Deon Bush's name way too many times for my liking, and not having Trey Burton really seemed to push the Bears' passing offense entirely to the sidelines. Like, I love how tall Shaheen is and how dangerous he can be in the redzone and all that, but...man, that just felt like a huge downgrade yesterday.

 

Yeah that one 3rd down where Shaheen had the ball in the open field with 1 defender made me realize that having Burton's speed and agility could have kept the chains moving in a critical spot. And that's just the most obvious spot, ignoring like you said how limited the offense looked without a legitimate pass catching TE in there.

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Also strangely enough he graded relatively well overall with PFF and rather poorly with ESPN's QBR yesterday when season long its been the exact opposite.

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Wished they were down by 4 instead of having to count on their unreliable kicker, the throw away on 3rd down to stop the clock, Miller was open. I'd say there was excellent chance they score a TD on the last drive, you got to think the Eagles felt pretty good about taking their chances with Parkey.
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Also strangely enough he graded relatively well overall with PFF and rather poorly with ESPN's QBR yesterday when season long its been the exact opposite.

Seems about right. He was really bad in the 1st half--I think I remember at least 2 should-have-been interceptions hit Eagles CBs in the chest--but pretty effing great in the 4th quarter and on that last drive.

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Wished they were down by 4 instead of having to count on their unreliable kicker, the throw away on 3rd down to stop the clock, Miller was open. I'd say there was excellent chance they score a TD on the last drive, you got to think the Eagles felt pretty good about taking their chances with Parkey.

Yeah, I think they had a shot on that one.

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I'm not going to lambast Parkey anymore other then to say he was one of, if not the worst FG kicker in the NFL all season. 76% isn't good enough. It sucks he had that one blocked, but part of his job is getting the kick high enough to avoid the block. I hope he practices this offseason and comes back in pro-bowl form, but right now he is the weak link.
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I'm not going to lambast Parkey anymore other then to say he was one of, if not the worst FG kicker in the NFL all season. 76% isn't good enough. It sucks he had that one blocked, but part of his job is getting the kick high enough to avoid the block. I hope he practices this offseason and comes back in pro-bowl form, but right now he is the weak link.

If he is on this team next year I'm not watching a game

 

(I will probably not follow through on this promise but ho-boy i'm so furious he was allowed to ruin our season)

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I'm not going to lambast Parkey anymore other then to say he was one of, if not the worst FG kicker in the NFL all season. 76% isn't good enough. It sucks he had that one blocked, but part of his job is getting the kick high enough to avoid the block. I hope he practices this offseason and comes back in pro-bowl form, but right now he is the weak link.

 

I know nobody wants to hear it but the real weak link is the former #2 overall pick at QB that is more ball control than playmaker. 15 points at home against a middle of the pack (15th by DVOA, 18th by weighted DVOA) is on the QB

 

if you listen to the post-game, Nagy talks about holding the gameplan back in the first half and opening it up for Mitch in the second. His play showed that as well. Hard to blame the QB when he executes what the coach is calling unless you just don't like him.

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