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lol I just think if we have this conference setup and all but 4 teams (I think) play in a division that leads to a championship, that championship should mean something. In basketball its an autobid to the NCAA tournament. Same thing here (at least for P5). It's just stupid to make some special accommodations for basically 1 team because they just have to play Navy every year. If you want to be different for the sake of tradition fine, but since the rest of college football plays under different rules you might get screwed somehow.

They're literally the only team in the Power 5 that pretty much isn't allowed to lose a game. Everyone else gets a freebie extra game at the end if they're good enough to be in contention. I'd say that's plenty enough of a disadvantage without rigging the seedings of a playoff for no real reason. Clemson should get to play a Washington or something in the 1st round of this thing rather than an unbeaten team

 

Wouldnt you rather fix the former problem rather than the latter? You seem to be upset about the seedings proposal but both problems would be fixed if you just joined the damn ACC like all of your other sports.

Actually, I believe at least one of their sports (I forget what, though) is in the Big10

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They're literally the only team in the Power 5 that pretty much isn't allowed to lose a game. Everyone else gets a freebie extra game at the end if they're good enough to be in contention. I'd say that's plenty enough of a disadvantage without rigging the seedings of a playoff for no real reason. Clemson should get to play a Washington or something in the 1st round of this thing rather than an unbeaten team

 

Wouldnt you rather fix the former problem rather than the latter? You seem to be upset about the seedings proposal but both problems would be fixed if you just joined the damn ACC like all of your other sports.

Actually, I believe at least one of their sports (I forget what, though) is in the Big10

It's hockey - ACC doesn't have hockey and they were an awkward fit in Hockey East, which is made up entirely of New England schools.

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lol I just think if we have this conference setup and all but 4 teams (I think) play in a division that leads to a championship, that championship should mean something. In basketball its an autobid to the NCAA tournament. Same thing here (at least for P5). It's just stupid to make some special accommodations for basically 1 team because they just have to play Navy every year. If you want to be different for the sake of tradition fine, but since the rest of college football plays under different rules you might get screwed somehow.

They're literally the only team in the Power 5 that pretty much isn't allowed to lose a game. Everyone else gets a freebie extra game at the end if they're good enough to be in contention. I'd say that's plenty enough of a disadvantage without rigging the seedings of a playoff for no real reason. Clemson should get to play a Washington or something in the 1st round of this thing rather than an unbeaten team

 

Wouldnt you rather fix the former problem rather than the latter? You seem to be upset about the seedings proposal but both problems would be fixed if you just joined the damn ACC like all of your other sports.

You aren't the first to bring up that kind of seedings proposal, and I just find it ridiculous that anyone would seed a better team behind a worse one for no apparent reason other than 'hey, these guys aren't playing by our rules, screw them'. If you're going to have this system, seed the teams correctly.

 

And if you want ND out of the playoff, as I assume you do, you should be thrilled they're independent. Their schedule is almost always more difficult as it is than it would be in the ACC. 2 of their 3 best wins this year, Michigan and Northwestern, aren't on the schedule if they're in the ACC. Instead, in this scenario, they're playing like Virginia and North Carolina or something. I don't understand how that change makes them worthy of a higher seed.

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Teams should play at least 10 P5 games or expect to be penalized.

 

Not to OMC this and make it all about my team but Northwestern played 11 Power 5 (+ND) teams in the regular season this year and has played at least 10 every season since 2012 (also played 11 that year).

I completely agree. Unfortunately nobody else seems to. Georgia only played 9. Alabama only ever plays 9. ND, unfortunately, only plays 9 next season, but with @ Georgia, @ Michigan and @ Stanford on the schedule I doubt they're going to be in playoff contention anyway.

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It would be extremely difficult for a 1 loss ND team to even make a 8 team playoff. So it doesnt bother me that they dont play in a conference.

 

I am pretty sure all B1G schools play 10 P5 games a yr. 9 conference and 1 non con. Prett sure its a rule

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It would be extremely difficult for a 1 loss ND team to even make a 8 team playoff. So it doesnt bother me that they dont play in a conference.

 

I am pretty sure all B1G schools play 10 P5 games a yr. 9 conference and 1 non con. Prett sure its a rule

That sounds right. I think every power conference except the Pac-12 has a rule about playing a Power 5 opponent out of conference, and most Pac-12 teams end up playing one anyway.

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They're literally the only team in the Power 5 that pretty much isn't allowed to lose a game. Everyone else gets a freebie extra game at the end if they're good enough to be in contention. I'd say that's plenty enough of a disadvantage without rigging the seedings of a playoff for no real reason. Clemson should get to play a Washington or something in the 1st round of this thing rather than an unbeaten team

 

Wouldnt you rather fix the former problem rather than the latter? You seem to be upset about the seedings proposal but both problems would be fixed if you just joined the damn ACC like all of your other sports.

You aren't the first to bring up that kind of seedings proposal, and I just find it ridiculous that anyone would seed a better team behind a worse one for no apparent reason other than 'hey, these guys aren't playing by our rules, screw them'. If you're going to have this system, seed the teams correctly.

 

And if you want ND out of the playoff, as I assume you do, you should be thrilled they're independent. Their schedule is almost always more difficult as it is than it would be in the ACC. 2 of their 3 best wins this year, Michigan and Northwestern, aren't on the schedule if they're in the ACC. Instead, in this scenario, they're playing like Virginia and North Carolina or something. I don't understand how that change makes them worthy of a higher seed.

 

 

I don’t want ND out of the playoff. They are certainly worthy.

 

How is seeding conference winners higher as a benefit of winning their conference different than seeding the abraves and dodgers ahead of the Cubs because the Cubs didn’t win the central? I guess it’s possible that you don’t like that too but no one seems to throw a huge fit about it in general. Just like in baseball a team plays the large majority of their games against their conference/division so there should be some weight to conference champ

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It would be extremely difficult for a 1 loss ND team to even make a 8 team playoff. So it doesnt bother me that they dont play in a conference.

 

I am pretty sure all B1G schools play 10 P5 games a yr. 9 conference and 1 non con. Prett sure its a rule

I don't know if it's a rule but there were B1G teams that only played 9 this year. Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota come to mind.

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It would be extremely difficult for a 1 loss ND team to even make a 8 team playoff. So it doesnt bother me that they dont play in a conference.

 

I am pretty sure all B1G schools play 10 P5 games a yr. 9 conference and 1 non con. Prett sure its a rule

I don't know if it's a rule but there were B1G teams that only played 9 this year. Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota come to mind.

Thought you were going to say everyone that played Illinois the past few years.

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Wouldnt you rather fix the former problem rather than the latter? You seem to be upset about the seedings proposal but both problems would be fixed if you just joined the damn ACC like all of your other sports.

You aren't the first to bring up that kind of seedings proposal, and I just find it ridiculous that anyone would seed a better team behind a worse one for no apparent reason other than 'hey, these guys aren't playing by our rules, screw them'. If you're going to have this system, seed the teams correctly.

 

And if you want ND out of the playoff, as I assume you do, you should be thrilled they're independent. Their schedule is almost always more difficult as it is than it would be in the ACC. 2 of their 3 best wins this year, Michigan and Northwestern, aren't on the schedule if they're in the ACC. Instead, in this scenario, they're playing like Virginia and North Carolina or something. I don't understand how that change makes them worthy of a higher seed.

 

 

I don’t want ND out of the playoff. They are certainly worthy.

 

How is seeding conference winners higher as a benefit of winning their conference different than seeding the abraves and dodgers ahead of the Cubs because the Cubs didn’t win the central? I guess it’s possible that you don’t like that too but no one seems to throw a huge fit about it in general. Just like in baseball a team plays the large majority of their games against their conference/division so there should be some weight to conference champ

I don't like it, but it's baseball, where home field means little to nothing, and it's a best-of-5 and not a best-of-1. That's not a relevant comparison.

 

I'm perfectly fine factoring in conference championships when seeding, but there's no reason it should overrule such a drastic difference in resumes as the one between Notre Dame and Washington this year. Clemson is a #2 seed and shouldn't have to play a better team in the first round than the #4 seed just because one of them played in a terrible conference and the other didn't.

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He's not going to be teaching nuclear physics.

He's probably about as qualified.

 

So you don't think one of the most succesfful college coaches in history can teach a class about leadership? Biased much?

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He's not going to be teaching nuclear physics.

He's probably about as qualified.

 

So you don't think one of the most succesfful college coaches in history can teach a class about leadership? Biased much?

you don't think michael jordan isn't a great basketball coach? Idiot.

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He's probably about as qualified.

 

So you don't think one of the most succesfful college coaches in history can teach a class about leadership? Biased much?

you don't think michael jordan isn't a great basketball coach? Idiot.

 

That's a terrible analogy

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I’m pretty damn sure he’s focusing on the character part of “leadership and character”. Considering, ya know, he covered up and protected a wife beater. That’s what I thought when i saw it on ESPN bottom line and that’s what I thought when I saw his post.
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I’m pretty damn sure he’s focusing on the character part of “leadership and character”. Considering, ya know, he covered up and protected a wife beater. That’s what I thought when i saw it on ESPN bottom line and that’s what I thought when I saw his post.

 

That’s fair.

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