9/14 - Cubs (Lester) @ Cardinals (no idea)

[David]

Here is game thread.

[UMFan83]

Think it's Carlos Martinez

[imb]

i horsefeathering hate carlos martinez fyi

[UMFan83]

Strangely enough this is only Lester's 2nd start against the Cardinals this year. I know the prevailing theory is that the Cubs moved Lester to line him up for Game 1, but I guess there's also a chance they moved him up to get another look at the Cardinals before a potential playoff match-up.

[jersey cubs fan]

Strangely enough this is only Lester's 2nd start against the Cardinals this year. I know the prevailing theory is that the Cubs moved Lester to line him up for Game 1, but I guess there's also a chance they moved him up to get another look at the Cardinals before a potential playoff match-up.

Nobody moves a pitcher up to get him an extra look at a lineup.

[Omar]

but I guess there's also a chance they moved him up to get another look at the Cardinals before a potential playoff match-up.

 

on the flip side, isn't it detrimental that Cardinals hitters are more familiar with Lester's repertoire close to playoff time?

[Omar]

Cubs v. Martinez

Name               PA  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
Anthony Rizzo      24  20  6  1  1  2   6  3  1  .300  .375  .750 1.125  0  1   1   0         0
Dexter Fowler      23  20  6  1  0  0   3  3  7  .300  .391  .350  .741  0  0   0   0         0
Kris Bryant        18  15  3  0  0  0   0  2  6  .200  .333  .200  .533  0  0   0   1         0
Chris Coghlan      17  13  3  1  0  0   2  4  6  .231  .412  .308  .719  0  0   0   0         0
Miguel Montero     15  12  2  1  0  0   3  3  5  .167  .333  .250  .583  0  0   0   0         2
Addison Russell    14  13  4  0  0  0   1  1  1  .308  .357  .308  .665  0  0   0   0         0
Tommy La Stella    13  10  2  1  0  0   1  3  2  .200  .385  .300  .685  0  0   0   0         0
Jason Heyward      11  11  4  1  0  0   2  0  1  .364  .364  .455  .818  0  0   0   0         1
David Ross         10  10  3  1  0  0   1  0  0  .300  .300  .400  .700  0  0   0   0         0
Ben Zobrist         9   7  2  0  0  0   2  2  2  .286  .444  .286  .730  0  0   0   0         0
Jon Lester          7   7  2  0  0  0   0  0  1  .286  .286  .286  .571  0  0   0   0         0
Javier Baez         6   6  2  0  0  0   0  0  1  .333  .333  .333  .667  0  0   0   0         0
Jake Arrieta        2   2  0  0  0  0   0  0  1  .000  .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Jason Hammel        2   2  0  0  0  0   0  0  0  .000  .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Kyle Hendricks      2   2  0  0  0  0   0  0  2  .000  .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Matt Szczur         2   2  0  0  0  0   0  0  0  .000  .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Travis Wood         2   2  1  0  0  0   1  0  1  .500  .500  .500 1.000  0  0   0   0         0
Jorge Soler         1   1  1  1  0  0   0  0  0 1.000 1.000 2.000 3.000  0  0   0   0         0
Total             178 155 41  8  1  2  22 21 37  .265  .354  .368  .722  0  1   1   1         3
Has not faced: Albert Almora, Willson Contreras, Tim Federowicz and Munenori Kawasaki & Has not faced pitchers: Jake Buchanan, Trevor Cahill, Aroldis Chapman, Carl Edwards, Justin Grimm, John Lackey, Mike Montgomery, Spencer Patton, Felix Pena, Hector Rondon, Joe Smith and Rob Zastryzny

 

Cards v. Lester

Name                PA  AB  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO   BA  OBP   SLG   OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG
Jhonny Peralta      59  54 14  3  0  3   8  5 15 .259 .322  .481  .804  0  0   0   0         2
Matt Carpenter      30  27  5  1  1  0   1  3  7 .185 .267  .296  .563  0  0   0   0         0
Brayan Pena         29  29  9  2  0  0   4  0  3 .310 .310  .379  .690  0  0   0   0         1
Yadier Molina       28  25  6  2  0  0   4  2  4 .240 .286  .320  .606  0  1   0   0         0
Brandon Moss        12  12  4  0  0  1   1  0  3 .333 .333  .583  .917  0  0   0   0         0
Stephen Piscotty    12  10  2  1  0  1   2  2  4 .200 .333  .600  .933  0  0   0   0         0
Kolten Wong         11  10  2  1  0  0   1  1  2 .200 .273  .300  .573  0  0   0   0         0
Randal Grichuk       8   8  0  0  0  0   0  0  7 .000 .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Tommy Pham           8   7  2  0  0  2   2  1  2 .286 .375 1.143 1.518  0  0   0   0         0
Matt Adams           6   6  0  0  0  0   0  0  2 .000 .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Mike Leake           5   5  0  0  0  0   0  0  4 .000 .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Carlos Martinez      5   5  0  0  0  0   0  0  2 .000 .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Jedd Gyorko          4   3  2  0  0  0   0  1  1 .667 .750  .667 1.417  0  0   0   0         0
Adam Wainwright      4   4  0  0  0  0   0  0  3 .000 .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Greg Garcia          2   2  0  0  0  0   0  0  0 .000 .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Jerome Williams      2   2  0  0  0  0   0  0  1 .000 .000  .000  .000  0  0   0   0         0
Total              225 209 46 10  1  7  23 15 60 .220 .271  .378  .649  0  1   0   0         3
Has not faced: Aledmys Diaz, Jeremy Hazelbaker, Carson Kelly, Jose Martinez and Alberto Rosario & Has not faced pitchers: Matthew Bowman, Jonathan Broxton, Zach Duke, Jaime Garcia, Dean Kiekhefer, Mike Mayers, Seung-hwan Oh, Alex Reyes, Kevin Siegrist, Miguel Socolovich, Sam Tuivailala and Luke Weaver

[MWV]

This has to be the most lackadaisical CUBS/cards game thread ever, right?

[Irrelevant Dude]

I am amazed that Heyward is still batting 6th. He is essentially the 2nd worst hitter in all of MLB. It doesn't matter right now, but he needs to be hitting 8th in the playoffs.

[squally1313]

I am amazed that Heyward is still batting 6th. He is essentially the 2nd worst hitter in all of MLB. It doesn't matter right now, but he needs to be hitting 8th in the playoffs.

It doesn't really ever matter.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I am amazed that Heyward is still batting 6th. He is essentially the 2nd worst hitter in all of MLB. It doesn't matter right now, but he needs to be hitting 8th in the playoffs.

It doesn't really ever matter.

Like I said, it doesn't matter right now, but it does matter in the playoffs if he is coming up in the 6 spot with the middle of the order guys on base. Let Heyward take his walks in front of the pitcher.

[CubmanPi]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/Hornkohl/cubs-slug-cards.jpg

[squally1313]

I am amazed that Heyward is still batting 6th. He is essentially the 2nd worst hitter in all of MLB. It doesn't matter right now, but he needs to be hitting 8th in the playoffs.

It doesn't really ever matter.

Like I said, it doesn't matter right now, but it does matter in the playoffs if he is coming up in the 6 spot with the middle of the order guys on base. Let Heyward take his walks in front of the pitcher.

No, it still doesn't matter. Putting Heyward 8th means it's less likely to have guys on base for Bryant when he comes up in the 2 spot. The overall difference is entirely negligible.

 

Though, to be fair, I'm probably just arguing for the sake of arguing. I don't think it makes a difference, but I also don't have any reason why he should be batting ahead of whoever is in the 6th and 7 spots.

[UMFan83]

I am amazed that Heyward is still batting 6th. He is essentially the 2nd worst hitter in all of MLB. It doesn't matter right now, but he needs to be hitting 8th in the playoffs.

It doesn't really ever matter.

Like I said, it doesn't matter right now, but it does matter in the playoffs if he is coming up in the 6 spot with the middle of the order guys on base. Let Heyward take his walks in front of the pitcher.

 

Yeah lineup constitution doesn't really matter from what I've read. Perhaps you don't want him coming up 6th with Russell and Rizzo on base and 1 out, but its equally less appealing to have Heyward and the pitcher due up after Javy and Contreras get on base to lead off an inning.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

but remember when Heyward was struggling while hitting 2nd and Joe was just going to leave him there because he was going to heat up? seems like a lifetime ago

[wvcbxl]

[DouglasDorsey]

Game at 12:45?

[UMFan83]

I can't believe tomorrow starts the last homestand of the year. This is really starting to wrap up isn't it?

[Irrelevant Dude]

It doesn't really ever matter.

Like I said, it doesn't matter right now, but it does matter in the playoffs if he is coming up in the 6 spot with the middle of the order guys on base. Let Heyward take his walks in front of the pitcher.

No, it still doesn't matter. Putting Heyward 8th means it's less likely to have guys on base for Bryant when he comes up in the 2 spot. The overall difference is entirely negligible.

It may be statistically negligible, and it may be meatball thinking on my part, but I still can't buy into the fact that a #8 hitter has the same impact on the game as a #6 hitter. Especially when the hitter in question is slugging at a near historically low rate, it sure feels he can have a larger negative impact on the team's scoring chances when hitting 6th.

[squally1313]

Like I said, it doesn't matter right now, but it does matter in the playoffs if he is coming up in the 6 spot with the middle of the order guys on base. Let Heyward take his walks in front of the pitcher.

No, it still doesn't matter. Putting Heyward 8th means it's less likely to have guys on base for Bryant when he comes up in the 2 spot. The overall difference is entirely negligible.

It may be statistically negligible, and it may be meatball thinking on my part, but I still can't buy into the fact that a #8 hitter has the same impact on the game as a #6 hitter. Especially when the hitter in question is slugging at a near historically low rate, it sure feels he can have a larger negative impact on the team's scoring chances when hitting 6th.

I mean, I get it. Today's particular line-up, I don't really care too much, because I still have a hard time believing Ross and Baez are much better hitters than Heyward. But yeah, there's no reason why he should be batting above anyone in the lineup, but I'm not going to get too worked up over it and I really don't want to see it become something that gets blamed if things go wrong next month.

[CubmanPi]

Cubs win today, Cubs win tomorrow = celebrate on home turf immediately after Fred's funeral. I want this.

[SouthSideRyan]

I can't believe tomorrow starts the last homestand of the year. This is really starting to wrap up isn't it?

 

Season hasn't started yet

[Cubswin11]

Nice start, fellas

[Schwarber Fan]

Good start, offense.

[mikeyt34]

I can't believe tomorrow starts the last homestand of the year. This is really starting to wrap up isn't it?

 

Season hasn't started yet

 

Amen Ryan. Amen.