Cubs trade Vogelbach/Blackburn for Mike Montgomery/Jordan Pries

[Rob]

very nice if vogelbach is the main piece

 

damn montgomery throws 97

 

More like he peaks at 97... if you're rounding up.

[philosophizer75]

This move is looking solid as hell to me. Thoyer forever!

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nice

[Tryptamine]

It doesn't have the flash of Miler, but it certainly didn't have the price tag either. I like it.

[KrisBryantisaBeast]

Gotta love Theo basically telling the Yankees to horsefeathers off.

[David]

very nice if vogelbach is the main piece

 

damn montgomery throws 97

 

More like he peaks at 97... if you're rounding up.

 

right

 

if i'm saying how hard someone can throw, i'd personally tend to say the hardest they can throw

 

didn't say he sits there

[Liam Neeson]

Haha Yankees.

 

You will never get this.

 

http://sportsmockery.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kyle-Schwarber-Reds-Fan.jpg

 

LALALALALA

[Aaron_Kennelly]

I'm sure Cashman will find another 50 home run hitter from some other team.

[David]

AND YES I ROUNDED FROM 96.9 horsefeathers OFF

[UMFan83]

 

he's actually been a bit better vs righties this year

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=4869&position=P&season=2016#advanced

 

huh?

 

3.50 FIP 3.68 xFIP vs lefties

 

3.05 FIP 3.47 xFIP vs righties

 

:banghead: :banghead: Whoops, even though you tagged your link to go straight to advanced, i scrolled back up and ignored the rest. Not my best day on this board :lol:

[Cubswin11]

I hope whatever the Yankees do they trade for A and AA ball pitchers who's arms blow out in a year

[Tryptamine]

Mike Montgomery seems a mediocre return for Voglebach, his numbers aren't spectacular.

 

For everyone that realizes that Vogelbach is a fat DH who has only shown power once he got to the Pacific Coast League, a big, youngish lefty arm that was once one of the top pitching prospects in baseball, that can flip back and forth from the pen and start maybe, with tons of years of control left... it's a nice return.

 

I would gamble there is a very significant chance he's tried out as a starter to start 2017.

[David]

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[Tim]

So, to get this straight, the Cubs have added Matusz and Montgomery so far this season and it has (maybe) only cost them Vogelbach to do so?

 

Yeah, I like our front office.

[David]

 

huh?

 

3.50 FIP 3.68 xFIP vs lefties

 

3.05 FIP 3.47 xFIP vs righties

 

:banghead: :banghead: Whoops, even though you tagged your link to go straight to advanced, i scrolled back up and ignored the rest. Not my best day on this board :lol:

 

lol yeah i decided not to be a dick this time

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Mike Montgomery seems a mediocre return for Voglebach, his numbers aren't spectacular.

 

For everyone that realizes that Vogelbach is a fat DH who has only shown power once he got to the Pacific Coast League, a big, youngish lefty arm that was once one of the top pitching prospects in baseball, that can flip back and forth from the pen and start maybe, with tons of years of control left... it's a nice return.

 

I would gamble there is a very significant chance he's tried out as a starter to start 2017.

 

I would hope that would be our intent, given that we chose to trade for him. Obviously, they like something about him. The pen is always a fall back, too, though. And that's fine, too. If he were able to start for us, then this is a home run. If it's not, then, oh well, as long as he is a solid long-term pen option, we made out alright.

 

But, yeah, it seems like what was mentioned in that Fangraphs piece. He's a guy to help the pen this year, but has control and starting aspirations in the future.

[Rob]

AND YES I ROUNDED FROM 96.9 [expletive] OFF

 

I don't see a 96.9 on that list. How many times did you have to round to get to that figure? I think your rounding routine might be broken.

[jersey cubs fan]

AND YES I ROUNDED FROM 96.9 [expletive] OFF

nice

[David]

AND YES I ROUNDED FROM 96.9 [expletive] OFF

 

I don't see a 96.9 on that list. How many times did you have to round to get to that figure? I think your rounding routine might be broken.

 

i didn't look at your crappy list

 

i looked at fangraphs pitchfx

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.aspx?playerid=4869&position=P

Edited July 20, 2016 by David

[Tryptamine]

So, to get this straight, the Cubs have added Matusz and Montgomery so far this season and it has (maybe) only cost them Vogelbach to do so?

 

Yeah, I like our front office.

 

Honestly I'd be surprised if one of Montgomery/matusz didn't have Hammel's gig next year and the Cubs took the 10M saved and spent it elsewhere. I'd have preferred Paxton, but I'm sure the price was much higher.

[Clem Fandango]

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[Tracer Bullet]

not a happy call

 

[Rob]

AND YES I ROUNDED FROM 96.9 [expletive] OFF

 

I don't see a 96.9 on that list. How many times did you have to round to get to that figure? I think your rounding routine might be broken.

 

i didn't look at your crappy list

 

i looked at fangraphs pitchfx

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.aspx?playerid=4869&position=P

 

Psssh, fangraphs is so 2014. Now it's about manually parsing through data. Get with the times, man.

[David]

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starting to sound more and more like it is, indeed, 1 for 1

[BigSlick]

This trade pleases me