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What's been amazing about Baez in the field is that, after making an amazing play with the glove (or his bare hand!), his throws are right on the money. Rizzo is catching his throws to first as casually as he'd catch a come backer to the pitcher.

 

unless the pitcher is Jon Lester

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What's been amazing about Baez in the field is that, after making an amazing play with the glove (or his bare hand!), his throws are right on the money. Rizzo is catching his throws to first as casually as he'd catch a come backer to the pitcher.

 

unless the pitcher is Jon Lester

 

Well played, sir.

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I'd rather optimize offense at 3b, play Baez at 2b and put Zobrist in the outfield tbh

that doesn't matter if the same guys are playing...

Yeah I misspoke really, what I meant is I'd rather have Baez's defense at 2b, Bryant is more than capable at 3b, and Zobrist is fine in the outfield.

 

I think the Baez > Zobrist at 2b is more valuable than Baez > Bryant at 3b, but we're still trying to gauge Bryant as a major league third basemen really.

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I'd rather optimize offense at 3b, play Baez at 2b and put Zobrist in the outfield tbh

that doesn't matter if the same guys are playing...

Yeah I misspoke really, what I meant is I'd rather have Baez's defense at 2b, Bryant is more than capable at 3b, and Zobrist is fine in the outfield.

 

I think the Baez > Zobrist at 2b is more valuable than Baez > Bryant at 3b, but we're still trying to gauge Bryant as a major league third basemen really.

No, we're really not. He's a very good one. And I was one of the longest to hold out. Just ask Tim and Gilby.

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that doesn't matter if the same guys are playing...

Yeah I misspoke really, what I meant is I'd rather have Baez's defense at 2b, Bryant is more than capable at 3b, and Zobrist is fine in the outfield.

 

I think the Baez > Zobrist at 2b is more valuable than Baez > Bryant at 3b, but we're still trying to gauge Bryant as a major league third basemen really.

No, we're really not. He's a very good one. And I was one of the longest to hold out. Just ask Tim and Gilby.

It's true.

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I'd rather optimize offense at 3b, play Baez at 2b and put Zobrist in the outfield tbh

that doesn't matter if the same guys are playing...

Yeah I misspoke really, what I meant is I'd rather have Baez's defense at 2b, Bryant is more than capable at 3b, and Zobrist is fine in the outfield.

 

I think the Baez > Zobrist at 2b is more valuable than Baez > Bryant at 3b, but we're still trying to gauge Bryant as a major league third basemen really.

 

The missing part there is Bryant vs Zobrist in the outfield. With Bryant's speed I think he be a big plus in the outfield. I'd guess Zobrist has lost some steps.

 

I'd think that the Javy would provide a bigger lift at third because of all the crazy plays his arm allow him to make. At second a big benefit is his ability to turn quick double plays, but that's the sort of skill you'd think would age well with Zobrist. He won't turn quite as many as Baez would, but the plays Baez is able to make at third just wouldn't get made by anyone else.

 

Also, Baez creates more double play opportunities at third, which I'd think would come close to wash with the extra turns you'd get with Baez over Zobrist at second.

 

But really it boils down to Baez having the armto make long throws from up the line or the throws on the run coming in. How many of those would have been hits with Bryant playing?

 

Also if you move Zobrist full time now he's going lose his second base skills quicker over the course of the contract. 38 year old pure outfielder Zobrist doesn't sound great. Primary concern is this year of course, but it is something.

 

Biggest thing in all of it might be your MVP candidate KB might not want to play OF all the time and putting him in LF permanently might hurt the chances of resigning him down the road. Lol just kidding I don't think that's a concern. This team is amazing and I'm guessing he enjoys watching Javy make these plays too. If it was every day that would be one thing, but if Javy's main position is third I'd guess he'll still play SS and 2nd like 30-40% of the time.

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that doesn't matter if the same guys are playing...

Yeah I misspoke really, what I meant is I'd rather have Baez's defense at 2b, Bryant is more than capable at 3b, and Zobrist is fine in the outfield.

 

I think the Baez > Zobrist at 2b is more valuable than Baez > Bryant at 3b, but we're still trying to gauge Bryant as a major league third basemen really.

 

The missing part there is Bryant vs Zobrist in the outfield. With Bryant's speed I think he be a big plus in the outfield. I'd guess Zobrist has lost some steps.

 

I'd think that the Javy would provide a bigger lift at third because of all the crazy plays his arm allow him to make. At second a big benefit is his ability to turn quick double plays, but that's the sort of skill you'd think would age well with Zobrist. He won't turn quite as many as Baez would, but the plays Baez is able to make at third just wouldn't get made by anyone else.

 

Also, Baez creates more double play opportunities at third, which I'd think would come close to wash with the extra turns you'd get with Baez over Zobrist at second.

 

But really it boils down to Baez having the armto make long throws from up the line or the throws on the run coming in. How many of those would have been hits with Bryant playing?

 

Also if you move Zobrist full time now he's going lose his second base skills quicker over the course of the contract. 38 year old pure outfielder Zobrist doesn't sound great. Primary concern is this year of course, but it is something.

 

Biggest thing in all of it might be your MVP candidate KB might not want to play OF all the time and putting him in LF permanently might hurt the chances of resigning him down the road. Lol just kidding I don't think that's a concern. This team is amazing and I'm guessing he enjoys watching Javy make these plays too. If it was every day that would be one thing, but if Javy's main position is third I'd guess he'll still play SS and 2nd like 30-40% of the time.

 

This is a really smart, good way to think about it. I appreciate this post.

Aaron_Kennelly South Bend Cubs

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So Javier Baez has turned into something I never thought he would: a good baseball player. He's so damn good at so damn much that he doesn't even have to hit that much. And he's gotten better at that, too! If he unlocks his power stroke, he's going to be a nice player. I hate his approach, still. There's nothing more frustrating than watching a guy flail at balls out of the zone. But, I don't even care anymore. He's too good at everything else. I love you, Javy!
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I haven't seen the last two games, but does it appear that Addi is struggling at the plate? He's had a lot of swing and misses.

The hits aren't there but he's working deep counts (he's seen 45 pitches in the 2 games in in 9 PAs) laying off some tough pitches and has taken 2 BB and has been on base in 3 of his 9 PAs. I wouldn't say he's struggling or looks lost/overmatched at the plate as he seems to be sticking to his approach and working deep counts despite maybe being frustrated that a lot of balls in play don't seem to be falling.

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Bryants Disco Ball

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I haven't seen the last two games, but does it appear that Addi is struggling at the plate? He's had a lot of swing and misses.

 

He had some nice walks tonight. Seems to be swinging at fine pitches overall. But, yeah, just missing some. That's my take, at least.

Aaron_Kennelly South Bend Cubs

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Here's one thing that has been making me irrationally angry: the Pirates and Cardinals having some better offensive numbers than us. I know they have worse lineups and that the numbers will reflect as such eventually. But, seeing the Pirates BABIP all over shitty teams to a higher OBP than us has seriously been pissing me off a little. So it's nice that we can correct some of these issues on our own.
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so i missed a lot of last night's game and i just saw the ball bryant hit...umm he looked like he popped it up and it went like 410 to center

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