Cubs Sign John Lackey - 2 years $32M per Rosenthal

[jersey cubs fan]

I get all of that TT, but I want more then anything a WS win with an undeniable team. And Price or Greinke adds depth. Even if it's top end.

 

We can not sign either of those two guys and still win the WS. Deniable teams win it all the time.

 

Yes, it was acknowledged that they can, the point was a better team increases your chances.

[SRQCub]

According to Peter Gammons, Lackey and Alex Gordon are two names he's hearing most with the Cubs.

[Tryptamine]

According to Peter Gammons, Lackey and Alex Gordon are two names he's hearing most with the Cubs.

 

I just really hate Lackey as a person and find him underwhelming as a pitcher.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

According to Peter Gammons, Lackey and Alex Gordon are two names he's hearing most with the Cubs.

 

I just really hate Lackey as a person

same

[Guest]

According to Peter Gammons, Lackey and Alex Gordon are two names he's hearing most with the Cubs.

 

I just really hate Lackey as a person

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Ditto. Arrietta can only counter a finite amount of douches.

[UMFan83]

[SouthSideRyan]

 

[Post Count Padder]

He's a douche but I'm not opposed to Lackey on a reasonable 2 year deal. I would just hope that's not our only starter acquisition.

[Guest]

He's a douche but I'm not opposed to Lackey on a reasonable 2 year deal. I would just hope that's not our only starter acquisition.

 

If it's paired with heyward, I have no issue with him being the only starter we get. If he's somehow the best player we get, then I'll be pissed until around February when I start getting excited about watching us roll to a division title anyway.

[KrisBryantisaBeast]

 

:banghead:

[davell]

Theo made it sound like he still expects to sign and trade for a starting pitcher.

[Guest]

[Guest]

heyman gonna heyman

 

[Guest]

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[jersey cubs fan]

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[Guest]

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can we afford heyward now?

[Guest]

i was looking through his old pitch data and, interestingly enough, his fb (all types) and two seam velo was actually a tick higher in 2015 than in 2007. Pretty consistent over the years.

 

cutter is way down last 3 years (since TJS, right?)...wonder if by design?

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1507&position=P#pfxpitchvelocity

[davell]

Monetarily, its decent value. We've still got the ability to add a major piece.

[Guest]

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Yours is much better.

 

 

can we afford heyward now?

 

At a 140 million payroll, you probably have to do something uncomfortable to make Heyward fit(like trading Hammel, Coghlan, or Castro) in addition to backloading Heyward a bit.

[jersey cubs fan]

I had no problem with them pursuing Lackey as the secondary pitching target of the offseason but if he's getting 17m/year that is hard to imagine.

[ScrubMD]

Hopefully he pitches a complete game shutout in game 6 of the world series and then immediately dies and doesn't get to celebrate when we win it all.

[Cubswin11]

I don't really like this move in a vacuum, but if it allows us to go after Heyward, Gordon or Upton (more so on the latter 2 if Soler is dealt) I don't mind it as much.

[Guest]

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Yours is much better.

 

 

can we afford heyward now?

 

At a 140 million payroll, you probably have to do something uncomfortable to make Heyward fit(like trading Hammel, Coghlan, or Castro) in addition to backloading Heyward a bit.

 

trading coghlan and/or castro to make room for heyward is like lazyboy comfortable

[Guest]

I don't really like this move in a vacuum, but if it allows us to go after Heyward, Gordon or Upton (more so on the latter 2 if Soler is dealt) I don't mind it as much.

 

in a vacuum how could you not love it? it's almost guaranteed neutral value with some potential for solid surplus plus very short term commitment.

 

it's outside said vacuum that you can find reasons to not like it, IMO

[nolanwood]

I trust Theo/Jed, but Lackey for 17mil/year puzzles me. I'm really curious how the remainder of our $$ will be allocated, too.