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I know it's early in the season, but I'm worried Butler is going to cost us a lot of money (max or close to max). Really wish we would have locked him up to an extension around 10-12M/year.

 

I'm sure his efficiency will tank as the season goes on, but he looks like a much more confident player on the offensive side of the ball so far this year. And Derrick is getting him some really great looks in the few games they've played together.

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I know it's early in the season, but I'm worried Butler is going to cost us a lot of money (max or close to max). Really wish we would have locked him up to an extension around 10-12M/year.

 

I'm sure his efficiency will tank as the season goes on, but he looks like a much more confident player on the offensive side of the ball so far this year. And Derrick is getting him some really great looks in the few games they've played together.

 

Speculation is it will take 12M, similar to the Kemba Walker deal in Charlotte.

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Derrick Rose is saying things.

 

http://i.imgur.com/4KNkttP.jpg

This so [expletive] weird. It's like he realizes he's a professional athlete but he doesn't have the awareness to understand it's not football.

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Derrick thinks he's going to be Earl Campbell or something because someone is playing a joke on him.
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He is just stupid.

 

We've known this for a really long time.

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I'm quite surprised Noah's head didn't explode upon hearing this ****. The recent quotes from Thibs along the lines of "If he can play he's got to play" make a lot more sense now.
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I'm quite surprised Noah's head didn't explode upon hearing this ****. The recent quotes from Thibs along the lines of "If he can play he's got to play" make a lot more sense now.

 

Nothing makes more sense. What he said means nothing. He's an idiot.

 

He sat out because he shouldn't have been playing. He even played when he shouldn't have been in the Milwaukee game.

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I'm quite surprised Noah's head didn't explode upon hearing this ****. The recent quotes from Thibs along the lines of "If he can play he's got to play" make a lot more sense now.

 

Nothing makes more sense. What he said means nothing. He's an idiot.

 

He sat out because he shouldn't have been playing. He even played when he shouldn't have been in the Milwaukee game.

 

This. It's a complete non-issue. Rose is just really dumb, which we already knew. He's sitting when he is injured and should be sitting. And playing when he is healthy enough to play. He just said stupid things that aren't even true. I think he was trying to downplay his ankle injuries and just stated that he's looking at the big picture with his health rather than gutting out regular season games. He should have said something about wanting to ensure his health for a deep playoff run rather than wanting to ensure his health so he can take his kids to the movies in 10 years. He's just dumb.

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If anything, it's really [expletive] funny that he said he wasn't playing on his sprained ankle so he wouldn't be sore for meetings and a graduation.
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I know it's early in the season, but I'm worried Butler is going to cost us a lot of money (max or close to max). Really wish we would have locked him up to an extension around 10-12M/year.

 

I'm sure his efficiency will tank as the season goes on, but he looks like a much more confident player on the offensive side of the ball so far this year. And Derrick is getting him some really great looks in the few games they've played together.

 

Speculation is it will take 12M, similar to the Kemba Walker deal in Charlotte.

 

That would be fine with me. I'm pretty sure that's what Butler wanted before the extension deadline, but the Bulls only wanted to give him Gibson money ($8-$9M). I'm worried if he has a really strong offensive season, it may cost more like $14-$16, similar to what Chandler Parsons got. You know he will be first or second team all-defense again, and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the all-star team. Those things, along with an increasing salary cap, may result in a team or two wanting to overpay this off-season.

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If anything, it's really [expletive] funny that he said he wasn't playing on his sprained ankle so he wouldn't be sore for meetings and a graduation.

 

That's my first reaction to it too. Now I'm wondering who even told him what a graduation was.

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Derrick Rose is saying things.

 

http://i.imgur.com/4KNkttP.jpg

This so [expletive] weird. It's like he realizes he's a professional athlete but he doesn't have the awareness to understand it's not football.

 

To be fair, most basketball players don't suffer catastrophic knee injuries two seasons in a row, so Rose's perspective on how the game can impact you is different than most. He's just so damn dense and has zero sense as to how he should say anything to the press. This could have been easily spun as he and the team are making sure he's good to go for the long run and he's working his way back; the nonsense about his post-basketball life should have never come up.

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Let's not act like knee injuries of rose's magnitude aren't going to cause his log term problems. If you ever see some of these ex players a lot of them can hardly move at the age of 50. I wouldn't even say "small price to pay to make a hundred million bucks playing basketball". That's not a small price to pay. We all want to be as mobile as possible for as long as possible. Pro athletes too.

 

How much money would you sell your ability to be active and without constant, chronic pain for the last 40 years of your life? It's not just the head injuries of football. Carson Palmer probably won't be able to walk 18 holes or play tennis in 10 years. Hasn't Bill Walton been pretty candid about wanting to kill himself at times?

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Walton's the exception to the rule; most pro basketball players don't have to deal with debilitating injuries or serious chronic pain. Bringing up football players and what they have to deal with when we're talking basketball players is just ridiculous.

 

Rose sitting out now has everything to do with him being healthy for the stretch and nothing to do with him being sore at a birthday party; he's just an idiot who has no idea how to talk. I mean, you realize that if he's serious about this he'd sit out games that actually mean something, right? It's just a stupid thing to say.

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@bruce_arthur

 

Joakim Noah says Pau Gasol was watching Raptors-Sixers on the plane, to scout. Noah was impressed, because, "I wouldn't watch that [expletive]."

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Let's not act like knee injuries of rose's magnitude aren't going to cause his log term problems. If you ever see some of these ex players a lot of them can hardly move at the age of 50. I wouldn't even say "small price to pay to make a hundred million bucks playing basketball". That's not a small price to pay. We all want to be as mobile as possible for as long as possible. Pro athletes too.

 

How much money would you sell your ability to be active and without constant, chronic pain for the last 40 years of your life? It's not just the head injuries of football. Carson Palmer probably won't be able to walk 18 holes or play tennis in 10 years. Hasn't Bill Walton been pretty candid about wanting to kill himself at times?

 

I believe there around somewhere around 100,000 ACL surgeries per year. Another 700,000 total knee arthroplasties per year. So let's not pretend that debilitating injuries only happen to pro athletes. For every Carson Palmer or Bill Walton, there's 1000's of regular people living with chronic pain issues.

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Fellas, I'm speaking generally and not specific to roses comments I agree fully on Sammy sofas comments regarding rose comments.

 

But I'm not goig to dismiss roses concerns about physical health in his post playing life. After a ten year nba career, which is like 3 months of training and 8 months of a physical grind each year, you will eventually begin to suffer extreme joint pain. Your back will likely be fucked. Add in major structural damage you are talking knee, hip, shoulder replacements. You are gonna age very quickly. Steve Nash can't even pick up a suitcase without slipping a disc.

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Then he should just retire now because skipping a few games isn't going to keep him from being sore after his playing days.

 

To me it's pretty clear he was trying to talk about avoiding the complications that would potentially come from suffering yet another major injury (or two or three...) as opposed to just normal pro basketball player wear and tear. He just can't talk to the press without tripping up over himself. You don't need to justify what he said because what he actually said is stupid.

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What a fitting headline in the Trib:

 

Derrick Rose on uproar: 'I could care less'

 

I read the article and I honestly have no idea what Derrick is trying to say half the time. This quote was particularly enlightening.

 

As far as saying anything, probably blame me for thinking about the future I’ll probably think different but that’s all I was doing.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-bulls-rose-i-was-just-being-myself-20141113-story.html

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