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Man, I'd easily trade for Turner. I'd give them an actual prospect with a chance. A Marco Hernandez type or a Daury Torrez type if I had to. Turner would be the 2nd most talented arm (starter wise) in the organization above AA.

 

Either one of Jackson or Hendricks has to be more talented.

 

Either the guy with the stuff who sucks at pitching or the guy who is really good at pitching with lesser stuff.

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Man, I'd easily trade for Turner. I'd give them an actual prospect with a chance. A Marco Hernandez type or a Daury Torrez type if I had to. Turner would be the 2nd most talented arm (starter wise) in the organization above AA.

 

Either one of Jackson or Hendricks has to be more talented.

 

Either the guy with the stuff who sucks at pitching or the guy who is really good at pitching with lesser stuff.

 

Better stuff than Hendricks. (Slightly) Less sucky than Jackson.

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I'm not sure I understand this on the Marlins' part. But, sure, I'll take him. Cutter + ground balls + Bosio = good things. And he's only 23? Wow, Marlins. We do have kind of a glut of back-of-the-rotation types. But, I like the types we are going after: Guys that are still controlled for about three years or so. Hope one or two pan out (Arrieta already has and then some) and let us bide our time while we acquire and develop more pitching. He certainly fits into that plan to a tee.

 

I would love to DL Jaxon with a phantom injury. But, since I don't think that's probable, sure, Wada to the pen. Demote Blake or whomever; doesn't matter. Get it done.

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I'm not sure I understand this on the Marlins' part. But, sure, I'll take him. Cutter + ground balls + Bosio = good things. And he's only 23? Wow, Marlins. We do have kind of a glut of back-of-the-rotation types. But, I like the types we are going after: Guys that are still controlled for about three years or so. Hope one or two pan out (Arrieta already has and then some) and let us bide our time while we acquire and develop more pitching. He certainly fits into that plan to a tee.

 

I would love to DL Jaxon with a phantom injury. But, since I don't think that's probable, sure, Wada to the pen. Demote Blake or whomever; doesn't matter. Get it done.

 

Isn't Turner a legit #2/#3 if we get him fixed? He's got better stuff than a back of the rotation starter.

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I'm not sure I understand this on the Marlins' part. But, sure, I'll take him. Cutter + ground balls + Bosio = good things. And he's only 23? Wow, Marlins. We do have kind of a glut of back-of-the-rotation types. But, I like the types we are going after: Guys that are still controlled for about three years or so. Hope one or two pan out (Arrieta already has and then some) and let us bide our time while we acquire and develop more pitching. He certainly fits into that plan to a tee.

 

I would love to DL Jaxon with a phantom injury. But, since I don't think that's probable, sure, Wada to the pen. Demote Blake or whomever; doesn't matter. Get it done.

 

Isn't Turner a legit #2/#3 if we get him fixed? He's got better stuff than a back of the rotation starter.

 

 

Sure, and so does Arrieta. I just meant guys that would be fighting for back-of-the-rotation spots. If we could fix him; that's a different story.

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

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I'll be optimistic about a team that brings in a solid FA starter 2/3 to slot behind Arrieta, another reclamation project on the Hammel level, and guys like Wood, Straily, Hendricks, Turner, and Doubront fighting it out for the last 2 spots.
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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed.

 

So it will be about the waiver claim, or it won't?

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed.

 

So it will be about the waiver claim, or it won't?

Yeah taht was confusing to me too

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

 

Jacob Turner isn't getting traded for Gleyber Torres.

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What I meant is if we try to trade anyone on OUR 40 man for him, that or those players have to go unclaimed prior to being dealt. In other words, a team trading for him likely does so with non-40 man guys.
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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

 

Jacob Turner isn't getting traded for Gleyber Torres.

 

Especially if we are the team that wins the claim on him and are the only team they can negotiate with...

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I'm thinking Hannemann.

 

There are tons of options off the 40 man to be dealt in return.

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

 

Jacob Turner isn't getting traded for Gleyber Torres.

 

Especially if we are the team that wins the claim on him and are the only team they can negotiate with...

 

Meant Daurio, spelled Torrez wrong.

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

 

Jacob Turner isn't getting traded for Gleyber Torres.

 

Especially if we are the team that wins the claim on him and are the only team they can negotiate with...

 

That's not how that works. They've got 7 days to put him thru waivers now. They'd much prefer to trade him prior to being forced to deal with the highest claiming team.

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

 

Jacob Turner isn't getting traded for Gleyber Torres.

 

Especially if we are the team that wins the claim on him and are the only team they can negotiate with...

 

That's not how that works. They've got 7 days to put him thru waivers now. They'd much prefer to trade him prior to being forced to deal with the highest claiming team.

But Turner himself has to pass through waivers to be traded. So we can already block a trade to any team but Colorado.

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

 

Jacob Turner isn't getting traded for Gleyber Torres.

 

Especially if we are the team that wins the claim on him and are the only team they can negotiate with...

 

That's not how that works. They've got 7 days to put him thru waivers now. They'd much prefer to trade him prior to being forced to deal with the highest claiming team.

I'm pretty sure they don't have a choice there. He has to pass through waivers before Miami has their pick of who to negotiate a trade with, and if anyone claims him that team gets first dibs.

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This ain't getting to a waiver claim, there'll be plenty of interest in him and he'll get traded.

 

Keep in mind, anyone being dealt has to pass thru waivers and go unclaimed. Also keep in mind it's at least very likely Hernandez and Amaya are probably earmarked for the Red Sox(Doubront, assuming at least one goes unpicked next year).

 

My guess is it'll take something like Candelario or Torres as the main piece and maybe Jokisch or something like that.

 

At any rate, this is something that's fallen into our laps. We need to make this happen. I'm not sure you can handle a pitcher much worse than how he's been. This is the best potential flyer we've seen show up on waivers in quite a while.

 

Jacob Turner isn't getting traded for Gleyber Torres.

 

Especially if we are the team that wins the claim on him and are the only team they can negotiate with...

 

That's not how that works. They've got 7 days to put him thru waivers now. They'd much prefer to trade him prior to being forced to deal with the highest claiming team.

I thought they had to put him through waivers before they could trade him and if he's claimed they have to deal with the team that claimed

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