Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-22-14

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Looks like Bryant added another single, leaving him at 3/3 with a 2B and a BB so far.

[Guest]

Vizcaino blown save

He's ready.

[gscool89]

Bruno doubled to lead off the bottom of the 9th, Bryant IBB following him.

[Vinestal]

Vizcaino blown save

He's ready.

He'd fit right in

[JonJayCutler]

There can't be many people left that still have Baez ahead of Bryant, can there?

[Guest]

There can't be many people left that still have Baez ahead of Bryant, can there?

 

Baez plays the most premium position, is a year younger and at a more advanced level. I hardly think it's crazy.

 

I'm not saying it's not debatable, but it's not something that nobody should think.

[XZero771679666304]

There can't be many people left that still have Baez ahead of Bryant, can there?

 

Bryant's K rate is still pretty high. I'd have him neck and neck with Baez at this point, but I don't think it's inconceivable that he might run into similar issues at AAA.

[apete6]

There can't be many people left that still have Baez ahead of Bryant, can there?

 

Baez plays the most premium position, is a year younger and at a more advanced level. I hardly think it's crazy.

 

I'm not saying it's not debatable, but it's not something that nobody should think.

 

Completely agree. MAYBE you could say that Bryant has a higher floor or better probablility of success, but to say he has a higher combination of probability of success and ceiling (which is basically what prospect rankings are IMO), still isn't true.

[davell]

There can't be many people left that still have Baez ahead of Bryant, can there?

 

It'll take a longer period than this for me to change mine up. Nothing against KB either, I think Javy is going to be truly elite. Struggling at AAA sucks, but he's 21 and in the long run, it could help him. It may not and he may not wind up elite. But it'll take longer than this for me to change my mind.

[sneakypower]

to be totally honest, Baez and Alcantara aren't very far apart, to me

[Hairyducked Idiot]

to be totally honest, Baez and Alcantara aren't very far apart, to me

 

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x366/Alisa_Autumn/alisa.gif

[Thed Hoyerstein]

to be totally honest, Baez and Alcantara aren't very far apart, to me

 

you're right, the shortstop and 2nd baseman aren't far apart. good job, good effort

[davell]

Sneaky, is that an indictment on Javy, being super high on Alcantara, or both?

[SouthSideRyan]

He was talking alphabetically

[sneakypower]

Sneaky, is that an indictment on Javy, being super high on Alcantara, or both?

both

 

there's enormous bust potential with Javy that's really hard to ignore, and Alcantara's a much, much safer play while still having the upside of a really good player in his own right

 

150 PAs of barely 50% contact rate is just impossible to fathom; consider that reported-to-be-blind Mike Olt had 150 PA of 73% contact at Iowa last year, and the universe's most reviled hacker Junior Lake was at 73% in his 170 Iowa PA...even Brett Jackson's been steady at 65% for his career in AAA, until this year (60.5% in 85 PA)

[sneakypower]

He was talking alphabetically

please educate me some about your definitive understanding of their futures you're all too well-informed of to even bother with differing opinions

 

maybe it can go in the bin with the Carlos Gomez, Rick Porcello declarations for further revisiting at a later date

[Guest]

I could get on board with that if Alcantara didn't have similar(if not as extreme) issues with contact.

[sneakypower]

I could get on board with that if Alcantara didn't have similar(if not as extreme) issues with contact.

Alcantara

AA - 74%

AAA - 72%

 

Baez

AA - 65.5%

AAA - 54%

 

Baez was a year younger at each stop, but i still consider that a significant gap, especially at their current level

[Guest]

I could get on board with that if Alcantara didn't have similar(if not as extreme) issues with contact.

Alcantara

AA - 74%

AAA - 72%

 

Baez

AA - 65.5%

AAA - 54%

 

Baez was a year younger at each stop, but i still consider that a significant gap, especially at their current level

 

Right, no doubt that Baez's floor is lower, my point is that Alcantara's K rate still casts a lot of doubt about his floor. If he keeps a .220 IsoP all year long that definitely helps, but his profile is such that more mild contact issues could be similarly fatal for his MLB career, depending on how a multitude of other factors shake out(just like Baez).

 

EDIT: Where are you getting the contact rates from?

[abuck1220]

I've been wondering for weeks where he's getting those, but I was too afraid to ask.

[sneakypower]

http://minorleaguecentral.com/

 

here's Iowa:

http://minorleaguecentral.com/team?tid=4512014&table=0&split=200&age=99&amod=%3C=&time=0&q=&table=6

[imb]

ok maybe you didn't notice that baez has a new swing, rendering those stats mute, so duh

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Alcantara is Javy if Javy broke his wrist and tore out his knee simultaneously, and thus came back with way less power, less defensive potential and a year older.

 

But switch-hitting.

[sneakypower]

ok maybe you didn't notice that baez has a new swing, rendering those stats mute, so duh

my immediate reaction was that his new stance looked like Omar Infante's, who's one of the hardest players to K

 

i wonder if Brett Jackson is experimenting with a Alberto Callaspo stance

[sneakypower]

Alcantara is Javy if Javy broke his wrist and tore out his knee simultaneously, and thus came back with way less power, less defensive potential and a year older.

 

But switch-hitting.

[expletive] uncle

 

we get it, you're a dismissive attention-seeking idiot, thoroughly averse to any type of meaningful discussion...why you persist in hammering this point home further and further with every single [expletive] post is a complete and total mystery to me