2013 Playoffs Game Thread

[jersey cubs fan]

There is no need for any of this nonsense.

 

1 game works great.

 

If you don't want to risk the 1 game loss, win your division.

[SouthSideRyan]

How did the Reds get "boned" facing Liriano?

[Sammys Boombox]

Two divisions in each league. Four Wild Cards in each league.

 

 

You lost me here. This entirely defeats the purpose of having each league at 15 teams. You've unbalanced the divisions again.

 

Yep. It's not perfect and would be better implemented with 32 teams (or 28). However, is having an uneven number of teams in a division really that big of a deal when the number of teams is so high (7 or 8)? Is it worth giving up the benefit of making meaningful races between seeds 1/2 vs. 3/4 vs. 5/6 vs. staying home?

 

I'm just not a fan of small divisions but don't want to go so far as to have no divisions.

 

Both the DH and the uneven divisions are cons, but the pros outweigh the cons IMHO.

 

You know, like it's a con that the Reds had a shot at the Pirates last night in a single game despite finishing 4 games behind them in the standings of a 162-game season. A pro was that the game was extremely exciting because it was sudden death.

[Guest]

2 divisions, 3 wild cards, same playoff format as now with seeding based on records.

[Sammys Boombox]

2 divisions, 3 wild cards, same playoff format as now with seeding based on records.

 

I would prefer this to what we have now.

 

EDIT: I really, really like this. You still make the division races matter. There is an important race between WC#1 vs. WC#2 and between WC#3 and the first team left out, and the biggest con that I have with the 4 wild cards is that a really mediocre to bad team could grab a wild card spot. This reduces the chances of that happening.

[Andy]

How did the Reds get "boned" facing Liriano?

Yeah, it's not 'getting boned' when Dusty predictably refused to adjust his lineup for the fact that he was facing a dude who eats lefthanded batters for lunch.

[Guest]

i wish we had danny salazar

[OleMissCub]

Sound is a bit weird. It's a distraction. Please fix that TBS

[SouthSideRyan]

I did not think about that how you can have a different roster for the 1 game playoff vs the ALDS. In a case like this where both teams had to fight down to the wire, they're obviously not going to put any starters who can't go on their roster. I guess it makes sense why both nights the managers went to their pen so early. You can have 9 guys available in your bullpen and still have an overstocked bench with pinch runners and defensive specialists.

[SouthSideRyan]

And wtf was Molina running for???

[apete6]

How did the Reds get "boned" facing Liriano?

Yeah, it's not 'getting boned' when Dusty predictably refused to adjust his lineup for the fact that he was facing a dude who eats lefthanded batters for lunch.

 

Because baseball is meant to be a "best team over a long season or series, not whoever happens to have a great matchup in 1 game" type of sport. Yeah, Dusty is an idiot, but there shouldn't be anything besides a tiebreaker that is 1 game. I love rewarding the division winner, but with so much randomness in baseball, 1 game is just dumb.

[jersey cubs fan]

How did the Reds get "boned" facing Liriano?

Yeah, it's not 'getting boned' when Dusty predictably refused to adjust his lineup for the fact that he was facing a dude who eats lefthanded batters for lunch.

 

Because baseball is meant to be a "best team over a long season or series, not whoever happens to have a great matchup in 1 game" type of sport. Yeah, Dusty is an idiot, but there shouldn't be anything besides a tiebreaker that is 1 game. I love rewarding the division winner, but with so much randomness in baseball, 1 game is just dumb.

 

wrong

[bukie]

Analysis of last night's game, including why the Rays brought in a lefty pitcher to face a lefty-killing righty batter with 2 out in the 8th: http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/76784/five-takeaways-from-indians-rays

[illiniguy]

How did the Reds get "boned" facing Liriano?

Yeah, it's not 'getting boned' when Dusty predictably refused to adjust his lineup for the fact that he was facing a dude who eats lefthanded batters for lunch.

 

Because baseball is meant to be a "best team over a long season or series, not whoever happens to have a great matchup in 1 game" type of sport. Yeah, Dusty is an idiot, but there shouldn't be anything besides a tiebreaker that is 1 game. I love rewarding the division winner, but with so much randomness in baseball, 1 game is just dumb.

 

wrong

Because it is your opinion?

[jersey cubs fan]

How did the Reds get "boned" facing Liriano?

Yeah, it's not 'getting boned' when Dusty predictably refused to adjust his lineup for the fact that he was facing a dude who eats lefthanded batters for lunch.

 

Because baseball is meant to be a "best team over a long season or series, not whoever happens to have a great matchup in 1 game" type of sport. Yeah, Dusty is an idiot, but there shouldn't be anything besides a tiebreaker that is 1 game. I love rewarding the division winner, but with so much randomness in baseball, 1 game is just dumb.

 

wrong

Because it is your opinion?

 

Because there is nothing to support the theory that a 1 game play in for WC teams is dumb.

[illiniguy]

 

Because there is nothing to support the theory that a 1 game play in for WC teams is dumb.

Why not just have a single elimination tournament at the end? Everyone will have a shot and it'll be so exciting they'll all be game 7s, forced game 7s.

[Guest]

 

Because there is nothing to support the theory that a 1 game play in for WC teams is dumb.

Why not just have a single elimination tournament at the end? Everyone will have a shot and it'll be so exciting they'll all be game 7s, forced game 7s.

 

Because that would be dumb.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

Because there is nothing to support the theory that a 1 game play in for WC teams is dumb.

Why not just have a single elimination tournament at the end? Everyone will have a shot and it'll be so exciting they'll all be game 7s, forced game 7s.

 

Why not just have a 30-team, 174-game round robin with the best record being the champion?

[illiniguy]

 

Because there is nothing to support the theory that a 1 game play in for WC teams is dumb.

Why not just have a single elimination tournament at the end? Everyone will have a shot and it'll be so exciting they'll all be game 7s, forced game 7s.

 

Because that would be dumb.

Right, but forcing a tie breaker between two teams that didn't tie, that's smart.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's not a tiebreaker.

[Guest]

 

Because there is nothing to support the theory that a 1 game play in for WC teams is dumb.

Why not just have a single elimination tournament at the end? Everyone will have a shot and it'll be so exciting they'll all be game 7s, forced game 7s.

 

Because that would be dumb.

Right, but forcing a tie breaker between two teams that didn't tie, that's smart.

 

Why are you calling it a tie breaker?

 

It's a playoff round that is one game long for two teams that didn't win their division.

[illiniguy]

 

Because there is nothing to support the theory that a 1 game play in for WC teams is dumb.

Why not just have a single elimination tournament at the end? Everyone will have a shot and it'll be so exciting they'll all be game 7s, forced game 7s.

 

Because that would be dumb.

Right, but forcing a tie breaker between two teams that didn't tie, that's smart.

 

Why are you calling it a tie breaker?

 

It's a playoff round that is one game long for two teams that didn't win their division.

Because the playoff rounds in baseball have always been at least best of 5. I think it was awesome the way it was and baseball made it worse by trying to forcefully recreate the magic it had in 2011.

[illiniguy]

It's not a tiebreaker.

Then why is it also setup just like the tie breaker that the Rays and Rangers played?

[Guest]

No, baseball made it better.

 

And "because it's always been that way" is a silly justification.

[Guest]

It's not a tiebreaker.

Then why is it also setup just like the tie breaker that the Rays and Rangers played?

 

What?

 

Lots of things are "setup" the same and aren't the same thing.

 

Why is it set up the same as every single individual regular season game? It's not a regular season game.