Garza to Texas for CJ Edwards, Olt, Grimm & Neil Ramirez

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Not a great read by any means, but at least it's enough to get me somewhat excited if he's included in the deal.

 

http://www.lonestarball.com/2013/7/11/4513080/neil-ramirez-a-developing-story

[Guest]

Not a great read by any means, but at least it's enough to get me somewhat excited if he's included in the deal.

 

http://www.lonestarball.com/2013/7/11/4513080/neil-ramirez-a-developing-story

Except for those two notes at the end, that is.

[toonsterwu]

I'm not going to go back on what I said yesterday, so while Ramirez/Olt/Edwards would probably be a decent package for Garza, I'd be a touch disappointed that we couldn't land Jackson. That said, I have no doubt they are trying for the best package possible, and that's all I can really ask of from the FO if that's the final deal. Would be mighty curious what else was discussed and with what other teams.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Not a great read by any means, but at least it's enough to get me somewhat excited if he's included in the deal.

 

http://www.lonestarball.com/2013/7/11/4513080/neil-ramirez-a-developing-story

Except for those two notes at the end, that is.

 

Very true.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Not a great read by any means, but at least it's enough to get me somewhat excited if he's included in the deal.

 

http://www.lonestarball.com/2013/7/11/4513080/neil-ramirez-a-developing-story

Except for those two notes at the end, that is.

 

The article's from July 11, and he hasn't been DLd yet, but hasn't pitched since July 5. But whatever's going on, I'm sure the physical will reveal.

 

And damned if he isn't the whitest Ramirez I've ever seen.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I'm not going to go back on what I said yesterday, so while Ramirez/Olt/Edwards would probably be a decent package for Garza, I'd be a touch disappointed that we couldn't land Jackson. That said, I have no doubt they are trying for the best package possible, and that's all I can really ask of from the FO if that's the final deal. Would be mighty curious what else was discussed and with what other teams.

 

Depending on whom you want to believe, the possibility exists that the Cubs don't want Jackson. At least it means we just don't like him enough rather than we couldn't get him.

[toonsterwu]

CJ is the top guy for me.

 

how hard has he been throwing this season?

FB sitting 90-94, touches 97.

 

I like CJ a lot, but if the talk is Ramirez, I think he's got a slight notch ahead on CJ, IMO. I think Ramirez, if healthy, has a slightly higher ceiling than CJ stuff-wise, from the little I know. Both probably slot into our top 15.

[CubsInNC]

Not a great read by any means, but at least it's enough to get me somewhat excited if he's included in the deal.

 

http://www.lonestarball.com/2013/7/11/4513080/neil-ramirez-a-developing-story

Except for those two notes at the end, that is.

 

The article's from July 11, and he hasn't been DLd yet, but hasn't pitched since July 5. But whatever's going on, I'm sure the physical will reveal.

 

And damned if he isn't the whitest Ramirez I've ever seen.

 

FWIW, he's had shoulder problems before, and had to lower the workload. His MRI from 2011 showed no structural damage. In fact, it was this exact time of year in 2011.

[Castros trade value]

Tim Cowlishaw of the Dallas Morning News yesterday on Profar: He's definitely less than he was hyped to be, but that's neither a surprise nor his fault. The Rangers do a masterful job of selling Baseball America on their prospects, and as a result some of them get overhyped. That's not a bad thing to do, by the way. All it took was convincing one team to believe in how Justin Smoak was hyped and the next thing you know, Cliff Lee's starting Game 1 of the World Series in a Rangers uniform.

 

I think Profar is going to be a good switch-hitting middle infield player with average power for those spots, maybe 20 HRs at the tops. He's a better long term prospect than Elvis, but Elvis is no longer trade bait with his $120 million deal, so chances are that Profar gets dealt this winter if not sooner.

 

So lets just add him to the deal and be done, Texas.

[Castros trade value]

IMO, Profar is part of this deal.

[RammyFanny]

Not really too high on Alfaro. Parks thinks he's a backup C.

[dcvalpo]

IMO, Profar is part of this deal.

 

I'm hearing Perez/Profar/Feliz for Garza/Castro/Rizzo. More info coming soon. Sweeney extension in the works, will man first base.

[SABR Gamer]

IMO, Profar is part of this deal.

 

LOL.

[Castros trade value]

IMO, Profar is part of this deal.

 

I'm hearing Perez/Profar/Feliz for Garza/Castro/Rizzo. More info coming soon. Sweeney extension in the works, will man first base.

 

I knew that was the case!! Good reporting!

 

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/JuricksonProfarSpeedo.jpg

[Tedward]

IMO, Profar is part of this deal.

 

I'm hearing Perez/Profar/Feliz for Garza/Castro/Rizzo. More info coming soon. Sweeney extension in the works, will man first base.

 

LOL !

[Andy]

Cowlishaw - I think Profar is going to be a good switch-hitting middle infield player with average power for those spots, maybe 20 HRs at the tops. He's a better long term prospect than Elvis, but Elvis is no longer trade bait with his $120 million deal, so chances are that Profar gets dealt this winter if not sooner.

He may not be Mike Trout, but I'm pretty sure any Rangers fan on the planet would take "a good switch-hitting middle infield player who can maybe hit 20 HR at the tops" out of Profar right now if it was offered.

[toonsterwu]

Tim Cowlishaw of the Dallas Morning News yesterday on Profar: He's definitely less than he was hyped to be, but that's neither a surprise nor his fault. The Rangers do a masterful job of selling Baseball America on their prospects, and as a result some of them get overhyped. That's not a bad thing to do, by the way. All it took was convincing one team to believe in how Justin Smoak was hyped and the next thing you know, Cliff Lee's starting Game 1 of the World Series in a Rangers uniform.

 

I think Profar is going to be a good switch-hitting middle infield player with average power for those spots, maybe 20 HRs at the tops. He's a better long term prospect than Elvis, but Elvis is no longer trade bait with his $120 million deal, so chances are that Profar gets dealt this winter if not sooner.

 

So lets just add him to the deal and be done, Texas.

 

To be quite honest, I said that about Profar last year, as did others elsewhere. What Profar is is a guy who is very, very good at a variety of areas, but potentially not elite at any area. There's a lot of value in a guy like that, and I don't think Profar is Smoak, but I think that's a fair statement, and is also why the Rangers made the moves they did (extended Andrus). I think Profar can be very, very good for a long time, but in some ways, what he was was a guy with a high, but not elite ceiling, but also believed to have a very, very high floor.

 

That said, no, I don't think Profar has a remote shot of being in this deal.

[mookie]

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[toonsterwu]

I'm not going to go back on what I said yesterday, so while Ramirez/Olt/Edwards would probably be a decent package for Garza, I'd be a touch disappointed that we couldn't land Jackson. That said, I have no doubt they are trying for the best package possible, and that's all I can really ask of from the FO if that's the final deal. Would be mighty curious what else was discussed and with what other teams.

 

Depending on whom you want to believe, the possibility exists that the Cubs don't want Jackson. At least it means we just don't like him enough rather than we couldn't get him.

 

That's fair. There's a decent chance Jackson is a pen arm. I just would be disappointed, but a case could be made that Ramirez's starting ceiling might be a tough better than Jackson's.

[Castros trade value]

Have to love Profar in front of Soto's jersey.

[Elrhino]

Tim Collishaw is the Phil Rogers of DFW, but dumber.

[Castros trade value]

Tim Collishaw is the Phil Rogers of DFW, but dumber.

 

I thought Randy Galloway was their Phil.

[Elrhino]

Tim Collishaw is the Phil Rogers of DFW, but dumber.

 

I thought Randy Galloway was their Phil.

 

Yeah, maybe he's more like the Sullivan, but dumber.

[Guest]

Tim Collishaw is the Phil Rogers of DFW, but dumber.

 

I thought Randy Galloway was their Phil.

 

Yeah, maybe he's more like the Sullivan, but dumber.

Marriotti.

[Warpticon]

Following this on twitter by just searching for Garza brings up funny stuff. stuff like "why would the cubs trade garza? literally our only good pitcher"