Garza to Texas for CJ Edwards, Olt, Grimm & Neil Ramirez

[Guest]

I kinda hate how every pitcher we're likely to get is most likely to end up in the bullpen.

 

I'm not sure I buy that Edwards can't be a starter. Even though he's at Low A, there's a lot of room between his K rate and hit rates and those of someone who can't be an MLB starter.

[Guest]

I kinda hate how every pitcher they're likely to get is most likely going to end up in the bullpen.

 

well, we have to add good relievers somehow

[Old Style]

I could only imagine Harry trying to pronounce Rougned Odor backwards.

Is it bad that I still do that? I try to say it like I think Harry would. Very drunkily.

That's the only way to do it.

[bukie]

Have we reached the "people continually post crazy overreactions to any tweet with the word 'Garza' in it" phase yet?

[Guest]

haha

 

Phil Rogers ‏@ChiTribRogers 17m

 

Very good names in those Rangers-Cub talks. RHP C.J. Edwards, 21, has Cy Young tools. RHP Neil Ramirez, 24, is safe bet as No. 2-3 starter.

 

Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 6m

 

@ChiTribRogers Edwards is more of a backend starter type and possible bullpen arm. Ramirez is definitely a bullpen arm; possible 7/8th type

Edited July 19, 2013 by 17 Seconds

[Guest]

haha

 

Phil Rogers ‏@ChiTribRogers 17m

 

Very good names in those Rangers-Cub talks. RHP C.J. Edwards, 21, has Cy Young tools. RHP Neil Ramirez, 24, is safe bet as No. 2-3 starter.

 

Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 6m (FYI the guy at Baseball Prospectus)

 

@ChiTribRogers Edwards is more of a backend starter type and possible bullpen arm. Ramirez is definitely a bullpen arm; possible 7/8th type

 

haha, does he even know what a pitcher is?

[Castros trade value]

Lets do this right and get Sori in the deal!! Edited July 19, 2013 by Castro's trade value

[imb]

haha

 

Phil Rogers ‏@ChiTribRogers 17m

 

Very good names in those Rangers-Cub talks. RHP C.J. Edwards, 21, has Cy Young tools. RHP Neil Ramirez, 24, is safe bet as No. 2-3 starter.

 

Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 6m (FYI the guy at Baseball Prospectus)

 

@ChiTribRogers Edwards is more of a backend starter type and possible bullpen arm. Ramirez is definitely a bullpen arm; possible 7/8th type

 

so all he did was basically look the guy up on baseball reference lmao

[jersey cubs fan]

They are good names though. Baseball player names.

[Guest]

haha

 

Phil Rogers ‏@ChiTribRogers 17m

 

Very good names in those Rangers-Cub talks. RHP C.J. Edwards, 21, has Cy Young tools. RHP Neil Ramirez, 24, is safe bet as No. 2-3 starter.

 

Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 6m (FYI the guy at Baseball Prospectus)

 

@ChiTribRogers Edwards is more of a backend starter type and possible bullpen arm. Ramirez is definitely a bullpen arm; possible 7/8th type

 

so all he did was basically look the guy up on baseball reference lmao

 

i find it hard to believe that he even did that. it's likely he's just making [expletive] up

[Guest]

if we don't at least get luke jackson, i say forget it.

[Guest]

Rogers is obviously crazy(Are you reading those tweets, BA?), but I still say that's a pessimistic view of both those guys from Parks. Compare Ramirez to Alberto Cabrera. Cabrera matches Parks' description of Ramirez very well, a likely reliever with potential set-up stuff who also could still be a starter if he made some adjustments(unlikely). Ramirez, while following a similar path as Cabrera in terms of age and levels, is striking out a bunch more guys. The difference is similar to the difference in Samardzija and Villanueva's K rates, to compare. With that in mind, I think putting an arbitrary ceiling on his potential as a reliever when he's missing so, so many bats as a starter is premature, to speak nothing of his ability to stick as a starter.

 

That goes even more for Edwards, who could trade a K per 9 for a H per 9 every level from here to MLB and still look like an MLB starter statistically.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

John Arguello ‏@CubsDen 20m

 

UPDATE: @chriscotillo hears that it's the Cubs who are saying no on Luke Jackson. The plot thickens. http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2013/07/matt-garza-to-texas-likely-today/ …

[ctcf]

"Rougned Odor has tools to be next Alex Rodriguez." - Phil Rogers

[Little Slide Rooter]

We've fallen hard since the delusions of Turner, Castelannos, and Smyley/Crosby

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Cubs also have talked to the Rangers about Jorge Alfaro, who has been compared to a young Johnny Bench, but with a better hit tool.

[Burtonbell]

So we can possibly get the next Johnny Bench AND Alex Rodriguez? Do they have the next Willie Mays as well? I think that would be a fair trade.

[ctcf]

That goes even more for Edwards, who could trade a K per 9 for a H per 9 every level from here to MLB and still look like an MLB starter statistically.

 

Well duh, he has Cy Young tools, doofus.

[ctcf]

So we can possibly get the next Johnny Bench AND Alex Rodriguez? Do they have the next Willie Mays as well? I think that would be a fair trade.

 

After discovering FanGraphs and consulting it for 2.7 minutes, Phil Rogers can confidently report that Ramirez projects to be a slightly more effective Mariano Rivero.

[Fro]

 

Matt Garza (Fresno St) trade from Cubs to Rangers is "99 percent done." Teams going over medical records now. 6 players in the mix

 

From a Sacremento Bee writer.

[RammyFanny]

Joe Davidson ‏@SacBee_JoeD 2m

 

Matt Garza (Fresno St) trade from Cubs to Rangers is "99 percent done." Teams going over medical records now. 6 players in the mix

[Bobson Dugnutt]

So I'm guessing 6 players involved means the Cubs are throwing in Navarro or an outfielder or something to get a better return?

[PrimeTime]

Andddd then there's this one

 

 

George Ofman ‏@georgeofman 13m

 

Reported Garza deal to Texas not done. Other teams remain in play.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Andddd then there's this one

 

 

George Ofman ‏@georgeofman 13m

 

Reported Garza deal to Texas not done. Other teams remain in play.

 

Everything George Ofman says is worthless.

[Burtonbell]

Andddd then there's this one

 

 

George Ofman ‏@georgeofman 13m

 

Reported Garza deal to Texas not done. Other teams remain in play.

 

Now Im hearing Garza has called Dempster to consult the trade options. Wait, is it too late to make a Dempster trade joke?